They could try not being brown shirts. Problem solved.
Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App
Submitted 2 months ago by chobeat@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://newrepublic.com/post/197464/donald-trump-pam-bondi-tom-homan-cnn-ice-tracking-app
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PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 months ago
stoly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I love the quote about how it is putting federal agents in danger…and I sort of think that they are doing that themselves.
Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Good, those agents are playing a dangerous game and you should know if you play with fire your going get burned. Its a matter of time before they try to kidnap the wrong person, and that person decides its better to die in America then it is to go to a camp then deported.
catty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
which is great for necessitating the need to insert absolute militant power for police forces. It’s like… the PR of him having a ‘meltdown’ is for a reason or something.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“[the app] basically paints a target on federal law enforcement officers’ backs”
When it comes to painting targets on backs, better them then innocent civilians.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Lol
rollingstone.com/…/guns-republican-primary-campai…
Greene in an ad for her 2020 campaign cocked an assault rifle as she warned “antifa terrorists” to stay out of her district
Masters, a venture capitalist and favorite of Trump-loving billionaire Peter Thiel, has featured guns prominently throughout his primary campaign. He responded to President Biden’s promise on Monday to crack down on “ghost guns,” which are homemade and untraceable, by tweeting a picture of a “ghost gun” he recently built himself. “Very legal & very cool,” he wrote.
www.indy100.com/…/eric-greitens-campaign-ad-gun
“There’s no bagging limit, no tagging limit, and it doesn’t expire until we save our country.”
independent.co.uk/…/south-carolina-governor-henry…
“I look forward to the day that Democrats are so rare, we have to hunt them with dogs,”
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Was curious so Iooked up the app’s site.
Apparently the devs claim they can’t release it on Android because “There’s no way to be anonymous on the play store”, but it’s even more impossible to be anonymous on the platform they’ve released. That’s how you know the developer is incredibly stupid and/or shady as hell- because they’ve never even heard of Fdroid?
Makes me think the app is a troll/trojan horse (not as in infection, trojan horse as in it has alterior motives)
The Drumpf crew “losing it” over the app just makes it more questionable. They love to create a firestorm so people talk about the thing “they definitely don’t want you to use!!” to get people to do things…
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
they mentioned that its because push notifications require device id and that would make it easy to be tracked if aubpoenaed.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I’m not sure if this guy is just dumb or it’s a honeypot.
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As mentioned elsewhere, they don’t use device ID
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Android is the only platform that supports alternative push methods
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Apple knows everyone who downloads this app, which is subject to subpoena
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The gov has been collecting push notification data from both Apple and Google for a long time. It would be as simple as knowing when notifications went out and then comparing timestamps to figure out who is using the app.
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The app is closed-source
It would take significantly more mental energy on the part of the user but it would be far safer (which is extremely important in this specific case, as the dev agrees) to distribute through F-Droid and then use some other UnifiedPush implementation, as many Android apps already do. Anyone using this app is making themselves a huge target for the current authoritarian state.
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Reygle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Interesting, especially with GrapheneOS people shooting it down immediately to call them out on their baloney.
poopkins@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Push notifications though GMS don’t use the device ID; they use a generated GCM registration ID that occasionally rotates. Who knows what Google uses internally to associate GCM reg IDs to users, but to overly state that it uses device IDs is simply not correct.
I’m not suggesting push notifications are inherently secure because it’s impossible to make that determination from the outside. But their assessment is incorrect and the same privacy concerns apply to Apple.
LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is a really good comment
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Thanks. Remember to always question everything. Especially when that -something- sounds like BS.
Geodad@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s no way to be anonymous on the play store
Aurora store.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I was quoting them but you’re right-or Fdroid ofc
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Anyone have a link to the app/website? I’d like to follow some among honing my horn and warning folks.
Penguin_1024@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Is this only on Apple? Kind of lame.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Shouldn’t be an app. It should be a site accessible using vpn and private browsing with an appropriate browser. Nobody should have to worry about the Stasi finding the app on their phone regardless of the situation.
tfowinder@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
While this is true, most people are not so tech savvy, maybe giving an option to mask app Icon to user choice can help it hide better.
Potatar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
going to a website (not tech savvy enough for this) vs going to the settings on an app and select a new icon (yay anyone can do it)
debil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
While I agree, in this particular case I think it’s a good idea.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Can’t it be both?
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
Websites don’t support push notifications in a way that normies understand. They’re also generally unreliable. And these are time-sensitive matters.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This app sounds exceedingly useful to me.
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Looking at the reviews, ignoring the mega hats, it seems part of the app does not work from time to time
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It sounds like a honeypot to me. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
It’s not gone, it’s just currently not available in your country or region.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I love how the Streisand Effect works. They just made this app the hottest thing out there.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s closed source, and the build and publishing pipeline isn’t transparent.
For me that makes this no different than a potential ICE honey pot
queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
can’t even find “Joshua Aaron” on linked in or github. feels a little sus. my moneys on honey pot
catty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
which is exactly what this whole ‘meltdown’ frame for the pr hints at.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Haven’t followed it much (EU), can you elaborate who did what and what can be done potentially?
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
the honey pot for what? people who don’t like ice? that makes no sense
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Twenty years ago tracking armed thugs in ski masks would have been hailed as a public service.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
“He’s giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are, and he cannot do that, and we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out,” Bondi said. “Because that is not protected speech, that is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country, and shame on CNN!”
Why can’t he do that, Pammy?
Gotta say Aaron is a bold motherfucker.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
No, no, no. They painted the targets on themselves.
This app is telling people where to avoid. Not where to go.
VerbFlow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All of a sudden, so many things are “not protected speech”. I find it tempting to be as ignorant as a Republican, but I’d certainly be caught off guard in that case.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 months ago
Why can’t he? She literally says why not in the text you copied and pasted lol
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Does her word override the first amendment?
There aren’t many exceptions, and what’s happening on a public street generally isn’t one of them.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is the app foss?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
No, and even worse, its only for apple devices lmao. These kids are so unserious in their activism it would be funny if it werent so sad.
catty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
apple is the majority of the market, no? so if e.g. a company wanted to get a product out for a client asap, apple would be the market to aim for.
nthavoc@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I would imagine this is very similar to marking a cop on Waze and completely legal which is why they are throwing a hissy fit.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
Entertain529@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This gives honeypot vibes. IOS only with no way to access via browser?
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 2 months ago
if they’re worried about being tracked maybe they could do the easiest thing in the world which is not being complete shitheads?
hera@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Seems like the kind of thing a defederated system would be good for…
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
*federated
treadful@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
decentralized + federated = defederated
Could it be any more clear? /s
hera@feddit.uk 2 months ago
😂 I think I was tired
docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
If you mean something on fediverse: while that would be hard to take down or block, it’s far from anonymous
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
fediverse over Tor?
maybe base it on Briar
hera@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Yeah wasn’t thinking anonymity, but keeping something running and making it hard to take down.
Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
It’s going to be filled with false warnings from MAGA idiots and trolls…
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ice and snowflakes always seem to go so well with one another.
Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is it apple only? Would love it on my droid if it’s available.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
Yep, and that will be it’s downfall, because Apple will take it down and there’s no way to install it without their rubber stamp.
liverbe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Looks like just Apple now: apps.apple.com/us/app/iceblock/id6741939020
giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
criminals dont like being tracked
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lets build more ICE-tracking apps
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 months ago
dont they have site as well, just incase they decide to shut the apps.
johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
How do they measure the difference between partial and full meltdowns?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 months ago
it’s probably rated based on how dark his bronzer is that day.
peregrin5@piefed.social 2 months ago
I'm happy they're scared.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fuck Apple!
xenomor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sweet. I appreciate that their reaction has Streisand-effected this app into my awareness.