Why do you think the fascists try so hard to keep them divided and fighting each other?
If every minority group came together under the same banner they would be the majority, and rights would be much easier to attain for everyone.
Submitted 2 months ago by Arkouda@lemmy.ca to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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Fletcher@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Why do you believe fascists are the only parties working to, and actively benefiting from, division in human populations?
P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because the companies and ultra rich contribute financially to fascists to take away our rights, and drive wedges between people. What are you talking about if not oligarchy and fascism? Like, some kind of softball league?
dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Welcome to the radical left.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well, unless you’re some kind of Democrat. In which case, get your bougie, genoside lovin’ ass outta here. Only the real leftists will be allowed under the banner.
dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
What are you talking about?
executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I see what you did there.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Yeah, the way we can show all minorities that we’re in this together, that we’ll stand by each other even when it’s unpopular and inconvenient, to stop the state from splitting off groups and trampling them underfoot… is to split off Palestinians and support candidates who want to trample them underfoot because standing up for them is too inconvenient.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m uhh a Democrat in name only. My father was a Democrat and my voter registration says Democrat, but I don’t believe in their neoliberal values
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I find it to be a more centrist position considering the amount of purity testing required to pass on either side of the political spectrum in the modern age.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hence divide and conquer.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And even more people under the same social class should band together that would have a much bigger majority
d00phy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This assumes the minority groups cal all agree on things in order to “come together.”
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’re deliberately being divided.
d00phy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Everyone is being deliberately decided. It’s not specific to minority groups. I guess my issue is that the post is vague and assumes minority groups act as voting blocs which is pretty simplistic. OP is basically saying what everyone already knows: that there are more people making up “minorities” than there are making up the “majority.” I would argue that your local community has a higher impact on your vote than your ethnicity or race. For sure, those play a part, but they don’t singularly define your vote. Also, various minority groups skew quite differently. Latinos typically skew more conservative than, say Jews or blacks.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
This assumes the minority groups can all agree on things in order to “come together.”
Do you know what a moot point is?
d00phy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I do, and my point wasn’t. Not all minority groups agree on everything just because they’re minorities. The world is a tad more complicated than that. Besides, what are they “coming together” to do? Overthrow the “majority?” Does that automatically assume that the majority is wrong and minorities are right just because they’re minorities? Again, the world’s just not that simple.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I suspect you’ve never hung out with enough different minority groups to understand the scope of difficulty. I mean FFS the Latinos vote against immigration, The poor vote against social services. Even when you run into a minority group that is doing things in their best interest, they’re not inclined to stick their neck out for people outside there subgroup. Nobody else is taking care of them so they take care of themselves and they give no F’s about the other minorities
The concept that all the minorities together aren’t a minority anymore is true at some level, I think you’ve got a better chance of having white leftists stand up for them then them standing up for each other.
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s not how that works.
0ops@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Hell why stop with every minority group combined? Throw the majority group in there too, now everybody’s on the same side! Why didn’t I think of this sooner??
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Look at the big brain on Brad!
Zexks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And if sunshine and farts were money I’d be rich as fuck. Fantasies are fun.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
If people like you just decided to be quiet, we would also have an easier time.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The oppressive class usually isn’t a majority (capital owners/rich, morning people), but they dictate so much more of our lives, what to feel, who to hate - so much so that they make the majority work for them against the minorities (that don’t affect their lives in the slightest).
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
This doesn’t really change, or add, to my point does it?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Change no, but it was my humble intention to add a little bit.
Understanding things/humans & why we behave bad is important imho.
spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Getting every group to do one thing together is harder than you think.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Does that change my point?
spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hey, I just realised that if Brownian motion carries all the water molecules away together, I won’t need a towel after my shower.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is why many people I know have started referring to themselves as members of the “global majority” rather than “minority”.
But also, yeah this is a class war and if the lower classes stopped perpetuating the division that the wealthy/powerful have forced on us, we could make everything better. Eat the rich.
nucleative@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All these minorities may share a common problem yet it’s unlikely they have the same vision for the solution.
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Like how republicans think they’re victims?
plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I wish I could have the courage to collect downvotes like you
And in your own thread!
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Thank you for caring about a metric that doesn’t matter for me. Do you worry about everyone’s down votes or just the pretty ones like me?
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 months ago
This is a lesson that the religious fundamentalists currently running the USA have weaponised.
gezginorman@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This is a lesson that the religious fundamentalists currently running Turkey have weaponised.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
My hyper coalition an-cap-com people’s democratic uniparty dictatorship will save the west.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Probability not relevant under a dictatorship or first past the post elections, but…
See also electoral alliance
executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
UK has FPTP and had a coalition from 2010 to 2015.It’s unlikely to work in the US where the non-rep/dem parties are basically negligible.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
That’s a good point. Even though the voting system makes it harder, it doesn’t make it impossible.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I don’t really see the parallel you are making.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
In some countries you can even have coalition governments. Imagine a parliament made of at least 5 parties.
robocall@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Bernie Sanders always talks about a multi racial coalition
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It is at least a step in the right direction.
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Aren’t there more women than men in the world
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You tell me.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Main problem: agreeing on a banner design. Also a fair amount of hating each other.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
that sound you heard was stephen miller getting cold sweats
Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s what intersectionality is about, and why fascists focus on driving wedges between groups
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Not everything is about fascists.
stormeuh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re right, it’s also about the capitalists who put them in power.
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This specifically is though.