Why do you think the fascists try so hard to keep them divided and fighting each other?
If every minority group came together under the same banner they would be the majority, and rights would be much easier to attain for everyone.
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Arkouda@lemmy.ca to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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Fletcher@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Why do you believe fascists are the only parties working to, and actively benefiting from, division in human populations?
P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because the companies and ultra rich contribute financially to fascists to take away our rights, and drive wedges between people. What are you talking about if not oligarchy and fascism? Like, some kind of softball league?
dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Welcome to the radical left.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well, unless you’re some kind of Democrat. In which case, get your bougie, genoside lovin’ ass outta here. Only the real leftists will be allowed under the banner.
dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
What are you talking about?
executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I see what you did there.
Objection@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Yeah, the way we can show all minorities that we’re in this together, that we’ll stand by each other even when it’s unpopular and inconvenient, to stop the state from splitting off groups and trampling them underfoot… is to split off Palestinians and support candidates who want to trample them underfoot because standing up for them is too inconvenient.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m uhh a Democrat in name only. My father was a Democrat and my voter registration says Democrat, but I don’t believe in their neoliberal values
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I find it to be a more centrist position considering the amount of purity testing required to pass on either side of the political spectrum in the modern age.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hence divide and conquer.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
And even more people under the same social class should band together that would have a much bigger majority
d00phy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This assumes the minority groups cal all agree on things in order to “come together.”
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’re deliberately being divided.
d00phy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Everyone is being deliberately decided. It’s not specific to minority groups. I guess my issue is that the post is vague and assumes minority groups act as voting blocs which is pretty simplistic. OP is basically saying what everyone already knows: that there are more people making up “minorities” than there are making up the “majority.” I would argue that your local community has a higher impact on your vote than your ethnicity or race. For sure, those play a part, but they don’t singularly define your vote. Also, various minority groups skew quite differently. Latinos typically skew more conservative than, say Jews or blacks.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
This assumes the minority groups can all agree on things in order to “come together.”
Do you know what a moot point is?
d00phy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I do, and my point wasn’t. Not all minority groups agree on everything just because they’re minorities. The world is a tad more complicated than that. Besides, what are they “coming together” to do? Overthrow the “majority?” Does that automatically assume that the majority is wrong and minorities are right just because they’re minorities? Again, the world’s just not that simple.
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I suspect you’ve never hung out with enough different minority groups to understand the scope of difficulty. I mean FFS the Latinos vote against immigration, The poor vote against social services. Even when you run into a minority group that is doing things in their best interest, they’re not inclined to stick their neck out for people outside there subgroup. Nobody else is taking care of them so they take care of themselves and they give no F’s about the other minorities
The concept that all the minorities together aren’t a minority anymore is true at some level, I think you’ve got a better chance of having white leftists stand up for them then them standing up for each other.
Wilco@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
That’s not how that works.
0ops@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Hell why stop with every minority group combined? Throw the majority group in there too, now everybody’s on the same side! Why didn’t I think of this sooner??
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Look at the big brain on Brad!
Zexks@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
And if sunshine and farts were money I’d be rich as fuck. Fantasies are fun.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
If people like you just decided to be quiet, we would also have an easier time.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
The oppressive class usually isn’t a majority (capital owners/rich, morning people), but they dictate so much more of our lives, what to feel, who to hate - so much so that they make the majority work for them against the minorities (that don’t affect their lives in the slightest).
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
This doesn’t really change, or add, to my point does it?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Change no, but it was my humble intention to add a little bit.
Understanding things/humans & why we behave bad is important imho.
spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Getting every group to do one thing together is harder than you think.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Does that change my point?
spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hey, I just realised that if Brownian motion carries all the water molecules away together, I won’t need a towel after my shower.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is why many people I know have started referring to themselves as members of the “global majority” rather than “minority”.
But also, yeah this is a class war and if the lower classes stopped perpetuating the division that the wealthy/powerful have forced on us, we could make everything better. Eat the rich.
nucleative@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
All these minorities may share a common problem yet it’s unlikely they have the same vision for the solution.
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Like how republicans think they’re victims?
plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I wish I could have the courage to collect downvotes like you
And in your own thread!
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Thank you for caring about a metric that doesn’t matter for me. Do you worry about everyone’s down votes or just the pretty ones like me?
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 5 weeks ago
This is a lesson that the religious fundamentalists currently running the USA have weaponised.
gezginorman@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
This is a lesson that the religious fundamentalists currently running Turkey have weaponised.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
My hyper coalition an-cap-com people’s democratic uniparty dictatorship will save the west.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Probability not relevant under a dictatorship or first past the post elections, but…
See also electoral alliance
executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
UK has FPTP and had a coalition from 2010 to 2015.It’s unlikely to work in the US where the non-rep/dem parties are basically negligible.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
That’s a good point. Even though the voting system makes it harder, it doesn’t make it impossible.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I don’t really see the parallel you are making.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
In some countries you can even have coalition governments. Imagine a parliament made of at least 5 parties.
robocall@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Bernie Sanders always talks about a multi racial coalition
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
It is at least a step in the right direction.
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Aren’t there more women than men in the world
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
You tell me.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Main problem: agreeing on a banner design. Also a fair amount of hating each other.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
that sound you heard was stephen miller getting cold sweats
Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s what intersectionality is about, and why fascists focus on driving wedges between groups
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Not everything is about fascists.
stormeuh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You’re right, it’s also about the capitalists who put them in power.
njm1314@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This specifically is though.