Delete. It.
Meta rolled back protections. Now hate is surging.
Submitted 4 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
rumba@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
My #$%^ HOA only socializes through FB groups. Been trying to drum up interest in a defederated Frendica or something, but can't get any traction :( I've unliked all the stuff and unfollowed everything else, but I can't GTFO of it any further without being unable to deal with my neighbors civilly
Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Your HOA?
Sounds like you add by subtraction twice by deleting Facebook.
Gwen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
”Oh yeah, uh, they blocked my account. No idea why, just something they do sometimes.”
opavader@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
any of the popular social media is now heavily infested with propaganda bots or fake promoted slop.
niche forum and sparse space like lemmy are the only thing left to have any decent interactions. even lemmy.world was heavily brigaded during election.
riskable@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
To me, this is like saying, “4chan has turned into a cesspool!” Yeah: It was like that from the start. YOU were the ones that assumed it was ever safe!
You’re posting stuff on the public Internet to a website for adults where literally anyone can sign up and comment FFS.
If you want good moderation you need community moderation from people in that community. Not some giant/evil megacorp!
There’s all sorts of tools and platforms that do this properly, easily, and for free. If you don’t like Meta’s websites move off of them already!
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
FB at least did a mediocre job at curbing hate speech. Then the progressive backlash against genAI broke the techbros so much they went full fash, since 2023.
Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
People in the community with special power and anonymity. No. That doesn’t work either.
dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
This headline is garbage. You could put just about any Fortune 500 company’s name in there and the headline would still be accurate.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
the url too. meta was never safe, and was never intended to be safe. the only way to make it safe is to shut it down.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
why should anyone want it to be safe?
baduhai@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
I do wonder, are seeing more hate, more fear and less freedom because there is more hate, more fear and less freedom, or are we seeing these things because they are now no longer deleted, and there is the same amount of it?
Either way there is no fix for facebook and other facebook owned platforms. Get rid of this shit.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Honestly, probably both. The fact that stuff isn’t being deleted anymore and that they make carve-outs in the rules for hate against specific minorities would embolden people to post more hateful content.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The headline confuses me. Has Facebook ever done something else?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Historically ('10s era) they were very focused on being “family friendly” and censoring anything they considered violent, sexual, perverse, deliberately deceptive, or otherwise upsetting to your middle-aged middle-income housewife/grandma.
Post-COVID, Zuckerberg’s been increasingly blackpilled, with an eye towards shock-jock engagement bait over any kind of civil moderation, fact-checking of misinformation, or discouragement of fraud/scam posts. So a site plenty of users have historically complained about feeling cloistered and sterile in the Disney-fied sense is now a total madhouse of AI slop, bum-fights clips, drop-shipper spam, and bargain basement rumor-mongering.
We’ve gone from a space that’s Mormon-style conservative to Fight Club-coded conservative.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ok, but there had been plenty of criticism before that, specifically how readily the algorithm funnels the user into alt-right echo chambers.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Friends don’t let friends use Facebook[1].
[1]Corporations are the only ‘persons’ it’s acceptable to explicitly deadname.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Social Media needs to die
Pro@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Said that on Social Media
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Corporate-run social media needs to die.
Zenith@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Idk I’ve never considered forums where you talk to strangers to be social media. If I don’t know anyone it’s not “social” to me, it’s one step away from talking to myself to be on a site like Lemmy or Reddit
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The internet was made for FTPs. That’s it. If you aren’t transferring files, you are using the internet wrong.
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Remember when, at the dawn of the decade, conservative media would whine about “BIG TECH CENSORSHIP!”? \
Those were the days. /s
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
How about… stop using META?
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I think most of us, here, have. It really is mostly old folks and idiots left now.
Someone mentioned here, their hoa uses fb as their digital square, and my park union does too. I just don’t get to get involved with the park union, Facebook unfortunately, has become ingrained in many community oriented organizations. I hate it. I refuse to go back there.
I don’t understand why people are ao eager to give their money and privacy to billionaires.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Instagram is also Meta. Do the young 'uns still use that?
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The ones who has hate in their hearts can now shows us all their true colors.
That’s a good thing in my eyes. Let them show us exactly who they are.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
The CEO is a genocidal zio. What the eff do people expect? USA is a hate group ffs.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Best thing I’ve done: delete Facebook/Meta. It was very difficult because you kept coming back… Think I “deleted” 20 times and still crawled back to login. Yeh…
So I came up with a plan to purposely delete and lock myself out of it.
This was like 5 yrs ago, I didnt have much uploaded photos so the process was easy. First, I changed the email on Facebook/Meta to a temporary one. Then I went further to use some random password create a new password.
Then I deleted the account with that temporary email and random password and closed the browser. Finally, I nuked my entire OS and reinstall a new one, just in case if the cache contains data about the email and password.
Zenith@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I found I wasn’t getting anything out of it so I just stopped using it, after three months I just deleted it. Facebook legit sucks, like it’s nothing but ads and garbage so it felt super easy to get rid of for me. I also figured if there’s pictures there they’re also already on my phone and if they’re not it’s not like I know which ones to miss them, like it if I don’t know it exists anymore I can’t actually miss not having it so I just straight up chucked the whole thing in the trash. I’ve had zero interest in going back. I think years ago it would have been harder but now? There’s literally nothing of value to bring me back
Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Tbf, having a central authority dictate the truth to you ain’t so great.
Neither is having classes of people who you aren’t allowed to offend.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Tbf, having a central authority dictate the truth to you ain’t so great.
I don’t think the phrase “third-party fact checkers” (plural) implies a central authority.
Neither is having classes of people who you aren’t allowed to offend.
Facebook can’t stop you from offending people. What they can do is make it slightly more difficult by disallowing slurs, etc.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
There’s no speech police in the real world, you don’t need it online either.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 4 weeks ago
That is the most simplistic, uneducated opinion on the subject that is possible to make. You should be ashamed.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
If that’s the case, it should be easy enough for you to come up with an actual argument against it.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
Nah, and cool opinion.
As someone else wrote, why should put much confidence in “some giant/evil megacorp”? They’re not a philanthropic organization & they’re not real authorities. We can expect them to act in their own interest.
If content is truly illegal or harmful, then the real authorities should handle it. Simply taking down that content doesn’t help real authorities or address credible threats. If it’s not illegal or harmful, then we can block or ignore.
People already curate their information offline. It seems reasonable to expect the same online.
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
I'm not convinced that much of it is real. Many accounts have to be fake. Surely people can't be as stupid as they appear. I think it's AI's funded or designed to be so stupidly biased.
Zexks@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This kind of thinking is how we end up with extremist politicians like trump. YES PEOPLE ARE THIS STUPID. LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE ARE THIS STUPID. Stop trying to ignore reality.
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
A bit of both I think.
As a Facebook group administrator I get to see a fair bit of definite fake stuff. Any time someone posts anything with the word stolen for example, a number of fake accounts will attempt to post with names of people who 'can help get your things back'.
They recently got a bit more advanced and will either use 'I'm new here" type posts to try to trick the admin into letting them into the group. It's a public group, hence a juicy target.
That said, we have a fair share of legit nutters, rednecks, NIMBYs, homophobes etc as well - I just suspect some of the EV and renewable energy hatred on Facebook is manufactured.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes and no.
Yes people are this stupid. But also bot networks. But also alt accounts. And many of those stupid people let the algorithm to pick them their political views, which is manipulated by both the bot activity and the platform holders.
joekar1990@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Unfortunately people are that dumb if not dumber, but also yes there are tons of chatbots that are sowing anger and division usually in favor of conservatives. Weird how Elon was talking about how many bots are on Twitter and has completely stopped talking about it.
SW42@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
surprised pikachu face
shiroininja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This is why I’ve switched back to the old internet. Chat like irc/matrix for social interaction. RSS for information. And webrings for browsing the personal garden websites that used to constitute the internet before social media took over. It’s been great.
The good internet magazine has been writing about this and is my inspiration
As well as the internet history podcast.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
That’s hilarious. 👍
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 4 weeks ago
I look forward to the day when the people wake up and drag the oppressors into the streets.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
Do we really like people, though?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
That nerdy guy who wants to be an MMF fighter sure is angry, you can tell by his business.
TomMasz@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Working as intended then?
boaratio@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No shit.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Meta is the enemy of all of mankind
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Social Media in general is our most self-destructive invention yet