Are lemmites going to realise that they aren’t the majority and that there’s a whole world of different people out there.
Looks at comments
I guess not.
Submitted 1 day ago by simple@piefed.social to games@lemmy.world
Are lemmites going to realise that they aren’t the majority and that there’s a whole world of different people out there.
Looks at comments
I guess not.
Yeah, I’m not happy about the Switch 2, but the amount of cope is unbelievable. I’ve seen multiple people claiming, “the Wii U sold out a launch too,” even though the Wii U sold worse than the Wii on opening weekend. The sales might still fall off a cliff in a month, but breaking the PS4’s record for launch sales is not a great sign.
So much for the boycott and all the negative press it got.
Non-tech people usually don’t care about the ToS and the dirty practices a company does. They’ll gladly pay for the ‘convenience’.
Most Nintendo fans even argued that prices, new ToS (bricking the device) and such were “justifiable”. Same thing about owning games, most argued that “in today’s era you barely own anything anyway”.
It’s very unfortunate and sad to see but it is reality.
Personally though, I’ll wait for either a working emulation or when there’s an actual exploit found to hack the Switch 2.
Tech people here not sure why you think we care more than others. I want to play new Nintendo games and I can afford it. That’s really all it’s about.
So much for the boycott
What bouycott? Don’t overestimate bla bla bla on lemmy and other social media.
Boycott 101, it’s not a boycott if you doesn’t want to buy that shit before calling boycott.
Gamers are the least savvy consumers on earth.
Matt Piscatella pointed out on Bluesky that a launch like this is only a function of how much inventory they made available. The Xbox One had the third most successful US launch of a console.
Every Nintendo console released gets negative press. I remember the articles bashing the original Switch because it was underpowered and that it was another gimmicky console - only for it becoming so successful that the form factor is being copied left and right.
As for boycotts, I only saw people bitching about games being more expensive. I get it, I too would love to get shit for free. But inflation is a thing, games are more expensive to make nowadays, and that cost will be offloaded to consumers. At least Nintendo games are not plagued with monetization and typically are released in a complete state.
The WiiU also got negative press. That doesn’t somehow redeem it.
In the end of the day Nintendo products are for casual gamers who only care about commercial material. It wouldn‘t even cross their minds to read reviews or discuss it outside their neoliberal Discord bubble. Emulating? How scary!
Besides, the Switch is a beloved system and many users waited for an upgrade for years. The Switch 2 is downwards compatible and able to give your older games a considerable performance boost. 90€ for new games just isn‘t enough of an argument to sit out this generation when you‘ve already spent thousands on games in the Nintendo ecosystem. The locked in effect is strong.
I am not very surprised by this but I sure as hell am glad I bought my Switch and and several games second hand for I‘m mostly a PC gamer.
In the end of the day Nintendo products are for casual gamers who only care about commercial material. It wouldn‘t even cross their minds to read reviews or discuss it outside their neoliberal Discord bubble. Emulating? How scary!
This sounds very inaccurate to me. Either that, or I just learned that I am a casual gamer that only cares about commercial material. And it seems that I don’t read reviews or only discuss things on some hypothetical neoliberal Discord bubble.
You derive far too much meaning from people’s preferences for console platform.
I sure as hell am glad I bought my Switch and and several games second hand
I had a Switch but I sold it after realizing that even second hand games sell for 90% of new. I’ve no idea how the economics of that situation works out…
There are three guarantees in life:
Death
Taxes
A video game boycott will never succeed.
It’s not really about boycotts not working.
It’s that a handful of people virtue signaling about how bad X game/company is on niche social media communities didn’t matter if their opinions aren’t aligned with your average person.
Most people just enjoy games as a hobby and treat it the same way they treat picking something to watch on Netflix.
On the plus side, the virtue signalers saved $ and can spend it on something that’ll bring them more joy and is hopefully more aligned with their views.
…I have thought about it and it is interesting that “virtue signal” is such a dirty word now. When I say “please” and “thank you” I’m essentially just virtue signaling that I’m willing to play nice, but nobody calls me the bad word for that.
I would wager they many of the same people arguing for a boycott went on to purchase it anyway. Opinions are free, as long as it doesn’t affect your life in any way.
There’s a switch 2 boycott?
An intentional boycott, no. But we don’t know how a console will do by its launch. The Wii U and 3DS sold out at launch, too. It won’t be people intentionally boycotting that would humble Nintendo, but the masses just deciding it’s not worth their money. We’ll see what they do.
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A Nintendo boycott will never succeed
I don’t think the Xbox One was a disappointment due to a boycott, I think it was just a product people didn’t feel the need to buy.
Sure, there was early controversy about the always-online DRM approach they planned to take, but it didn’t launch with that in the end. What killed its hype was just being US$100 more expensive than the PS4 and having no killer exclusives lined up.
That’s why i was honestly surprised they sell it for that “cheap” the numbers would’ve been pretty similar for 50-100 dollars more.
Nintendo has spent decades building an extremely loyal, multigenerational consumer base. They also release very popular, high quality games. I have no interest in owning a Switch, but I get why so many people do.
And the masses have been conditioned to accept the corporate anti-consumer “you will own nothing and you will like it” MO.
Yeah, PC gamers bent the knee to Steam decades ago at this point. This isn’t exactly a brand new issue.
Except that they are not high-quality.
Ah yes, the one Nintendo IP that has gone to shit. Not fully by the way, as Legends Arceus was fantastic, and even my mom who hasn’t given a fuck about Pokemon since Yellow loved watching me play it. If Gamefreak would finally make another side game like Mystery Dungeon (or the more forgotten cult classics like Pokepark, Ranger, Conquest, Rumble, etc.) we wouldn’t be trolling them so hard. It’s also more of a Gamefreak problem than anything, as other companies that did Pokemon games (Chunsoft, Genius Sonority, etc.) did fantastic.
Anyway Zelda and Mario are still making bangers, Kirby Air Riders is coming back, Metroid fans are fed, Splatoon is getting a whole new game for Switch 2 (fuck me…), people are still relatively happy with Animal Crossing NH, we’ll see how Donkey Kong’s new game does, and while FE’s newest entry wasn’t so hot you can’t ignore how Three Houses brought in a brand new wave of loyal FE fans.
Literally everyone knows Pokemon mainline has been going to shit (and not the characters, designs, music, etc. imo, just the animations and story writing). Pick another game, even Nintendo (and Pokemon) fans make fun of it.
Just like the horse armor, people complain and complain and then fork over the money anyway.
I find it ridiculously impressive given how abhorrently expensive purchasing and owning it is.
Honestly compared to other handhelds and current-gen consoles, the price seems OK for what you're getting. The problem for me has always been how expensive Nintendo's games are, $80 seems way too much.
As if, the console’s a scam and the game pricing is just the cherry on top. Half committing to caring about how much things cost is a waste of time, either acknowledge they’re both garbage or stop spreading this half assed attitude.
Especially when you need new controllers because they aren’t really bothered to fix the stick drift
It really isn’t. Nintendo consoles always sell out at launch. It’s how they’re doing six months or so later that actually matters.
I guess it wasn’t too expensive after all.
“THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY THINK WE’RE GOING TO STAND FOR THIS!
I’ll take two, one for me, and one to sell
HOW COME THEY KEEP DOING THIS!? DON’T THEY KNOW THEY’LL LOSE ME AS A repeat CUSTOMER!?”
Why are you getting the switch?
“Cause uh it’s Nintendo…”
Because myself and my kids like Mario Kart?
Because I like my OG Switch and this is a pretty massive improvement over that console?
And with that. Every gamer was fucked
Not yet. The 3DS and Wii U sold out at launch, too, but after the diehards all got them, nobody else wanted them. The 3DS recovered after they dropped the price by $80 6 months after launch, but the Wii U never recovered. Maybe that won’t happen this time and we truly are fucked, but time will tell. Historically, Nintendo fucks up after they have a successful console and get cocky with the next one.
Don’t forget that the Wii U had one of the most incompetent console marketing campaigns of all time. Just two years ago I met someone who still didn’t know it was a console and not an accessory.
Expect the OLED model in a year or two to be $600-$650
We get stories like this all the time.
Was the switch 2 a successful launch from a monetary perspective: Hopefully
But people also have to understand. Gaming gets more and more mainstream every year AND population increases every year. Of course units sold are going to increase. The last time we had a console launch was 2020-ish. It has been five years of new people getting into video games and so forth.
Its similar logic to any time we see “Call of Auto 789151 is the fastest selling Call of Auto ever!”… Of course it is. If it wasn’t then that would be a huge red flag for the franchise.
I do always love “records” that are effectively population increases.
Just like when people share maps of data that are effectively just showing population distribution.
Gran Theft Duty
Aside from the analog sticks, the console itself seems like a fine upgrade from the original making it a tempting for anyone looking for “Switch Pro”. But it’ll be intersting to see how the price of games and the digital key aspect will affect the game sales down the line.
Steam Deck and other portable pc:s seem to be also getting a lot of momentum so there’s increasing amount of competition for handheld devices which was not really the chase with Switch 1.
PC handhelds are nowhere near switch + switch 2, 3.5M units almost equal total number of Steam Decks sold since its launch in 2022.
There’s no competition for handhelds dude l. This the switch 2… there was one before it. And it’s a console. Mthe steam deck came out after the switch, you could emulate like 95% of the switch library on the steamd deck plus steam games plus wharever you wanted. I’d imagine in 2-3 years the steam deck 2 will come out. But all this is is just a console vs a PC… Still… Just like before. Nintendo kant shaking anything up except that every company will now sell games at $80. Nintendo fucked everyone
How?
Did you all forget that Sony has been selling games at US$80 since 2020?
All you motherfuckers who bought this can no longer bitch about their prices
Its probably the case that these are separate groups.
These prices are not pulled out of asses, they calculate the maximum they can charge while keeping or increasing their market share/profitbaility. It sucks the games are going up but people are entitled to begrudgingly take part because they enjoy the product.
the console price isn’t really bad though. isnt it the games that people are mad about?
The console absolutely is a garbage price. People think 120hz = 120fps.
Tbr console is at PS4 pro power…
Both
Of all the things in my life to worry about. Nintendo pricing and other issues barely move the needle.
And if they did, it would be hard to game at all because every company has at least a few “practices” that you can point to as making them “bad”.
Users, or scalpers looking to score?
Yea was thinking the same thing. “How many of those are scalpers?”
Anti Nintendo rhetoric is not allowed here apparently
Your comment was removed for being an ass, stop playing a victim.
For reference, it was:
All you motherfuckers who bought this can no longer bitch about their prices nor any of their anti consumer practices You have the right to shut the fuck up for anything they do for all time
Ohhh well isn’t that an interesting development!
Guess I know how it got removed
Four days?
They were gone day one where I live. Where the fuck did people find them 4 days after release?
shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
To be expected, mainstream audiences would pay Nintendo to fuck them up the arse if it meant more Mario.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 13 minutes ago
Id pay for Luigi to fuck my ass.