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Boycott In-N-Out.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨T0rrent01@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨general@lemmy.world⁩

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  • unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Posting what I said on this in another thread-

    So, this decision is really bad for reasons that go beyond sick workers. It’s really unpopular to mention but COVID isn’t over, it’s not gone. We just normalized the suffering and shunted the most vulnerable into its path. As one of those vulnerables still trying to survive, masking has been an exhausting situation. I mask, I have to, and antimask sentiment makes it hard to operate in a world that already wishes I wouldn’t. Decisions like this cause harm in wider ways. I wrote an email to In-N-Out Owner/President Lynsi Snyder about this in response to this policy. I don’t think she cares what this policy does, but I’m sharing here for others who may want to understand.

    I’m writing to ask you to please reverse your recent decision to ban employees from wearing a mask unless medically exempt. This decision shows not only a complete disregard for the health and safety of your employees and customers, as everyone is affected by disease spread, but is also profoundly ableist and lacking an understanding of current (and historic) context. Requiring employees to not only divulge their medical information to their employers but also openly to the public is a mindset rooted in othering people who are disabled or otherwise medically vulnerable. In general, it’s bad when a marginalized group must publicly declare their status as such, but especially now when people are already struggling to survive an ongoing pandemic amidst the hostility of antimask sentiment. This decision furthers that othering and hostility, making those employees into targets. But this decision doesn’t just impact your employees directly, it feeds into that larger cultural antimask sentiment and perpetuates ableism. This lack of understanding of the impact of your decision is a clear message that it’s not just those employees your company does not value, but all disabled and vulnerable people. Please show your abity to learn and understand the impacts of your decision, as well as your disapproval of ableism, and reverse this decision. Further, I urge you to demonstrate actual value for your employees and customers by adapting to our reality and implementing measures to reduce the spread of covid and other pathogens in your restaurants and other workplaces. This can be achieved through simple measures like improving the ventilation and filtration in buildings, improving sick leave policies, and other actions including, yes, masking by employees.

    Thank you Xxx

    PS This company push to ignore our current reality and new cultural understanding of disease spread is not just callous, it’s boring. Be better.

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  • morgan_423@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As someone living on the East Coast who is never within 2,000 miles of an In n Out Burger, I’ll continue to do my part.

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  • unconsciousvoidling@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Next they’ll be like …. No employees are allowed to wash their hands… hand washing is woke.

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    • PatFussy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Killer strawman my dude. You must have strictly stayed inside for the last 3 years too huh

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      • tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That… that’s not what a strawman is

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  • downpunxx@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Love the In N Out double double, it's tastier, and cheaper than McDonalds, but I won't be going back to In N Out again, as forcing employees to be less comfortable and less safe in their working environment, one which necessitates them dealing literally face to face with a mostly uncaring unsafe unhealthy public is the line I draw in the sand. I still choose to wear my mask in public places like retail stores, because COVID is still very real. Everyone should be able to make their own choices, and stripping this right from an employee is not something I want to support with my patronage.

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    • Sludgehammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I still choose to wear my mask in public places like retail stores, because COVID is still very real.

      I still wear a mask in stores, but it’s mainly because I don’t want to breath in whatever is flaking off the 400+ man in stained pajamas waddling around the Walmart. A lower chance of spreading or catching COVID is just gravy IMO.

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  • ConfirmingMoose@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People smiled with their eyes so much more during the COVIDs.

    It is obvious when someone with a mask on is smiling.

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    • 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We have very elderly mothers, and sisters with cancer, so my family still masks. I smile at people all the time, they smile back, everyone goes away feeling good. I don’t understand how some people get so worked up over masks. 🤦‍♀️

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The obvious take away is they dont want to see people smiling because they like seeing happy people.

      They like to see smiles because it makes themselves happy to see smiles.

      It’s ridiculously selfish even if you ignore that you’re putting everyone’s health at risk

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  • Hello_there@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck you if your spouse or parents are going thru chemo, huh?

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    • Bigdude1420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      doctors note

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  • mrbubblesort@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is bassakwards. Forget covid, all cooks should be required to wear a mask while in a kitchen for the same reasons they're wear hair nets and we have sneeze guards on salad bars. I don't want some cook coughing on my burger.

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    • GreenCrush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah exactly. Why more people haven’t taken COVID as an opportunity to learn that spitting germs out of your mouth on food is gross, is beyond me.

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  • GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are they also banned from wearing gloves while handling my food?

    Anyway, Five Guys >

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    • asparagus9001@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      it’s like 17 dollars for a “small combo” at five guys and yes I know it’s a lot of food but 1) reports are they aren’t doing the whole-bag-full-of-fries thing anymore and 2) you can come out ahead and probably get something as good or better at a bar

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      • EssentialCoffee@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My Five Guys still does several scoops into a bag.

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      • Traegs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The bag full of fries seems to vary by location. I stopped at a Five Guys in Vancouver last week on a road trip and they loaded it up nicely. The one closest to me skimps a little bit but I’ve had far worse at different locations.

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    • T0rrent01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, I cannot eat at Five Guy’s or Chick-Fil-A because I am allergic to peanuts and they use peanut oil.

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    • floral_toxicity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      5 Guys is superior anyway. Their Cajun fries are amazing.

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      • Burnt@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        5 Guys is also twice the price and I would argue that their burgers aren’t actually better than In-n-Out’s. I like thousand island sauce tho, so I’m a bit biased.

        Totally agree with you about the Cajun fries, they completely blow away In-n-Out’s fries but their fries set a pretty low bar imo.

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      • jmanjones@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure. but one’s $4 for a double cheese burger and one is $79 for just a hamburger no cheese.

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      • GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Agreed, best fries in the biz. And the burgers are consistently delicious.

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  • CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This doesn’t really seem like the right community to post this. Maybe try a news community, like !news@lemmy.world? (I think I linked that right)

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  • TwoGems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I love how they pretend Covid is gone. News flash it’s not, especially for vulnerable people.

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    • Hypersapien@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s never going to be gone, specifically because of people like this.

      Just like the flu never went away after the 1918 pandemic, again, because of people like to this.

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    • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And yet the world still turns. Everybody else has just forgotten it, and dealt with it if they caught it. There’s lots of things in the world that are “sub optimal”. Deal with it.

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        People are dealing with it. By wearing masks

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, they want to deal with it by wearing a mask but their company won’t let them.

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      • GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dude, getting caught in the rain without an umbrella = deal with it. Pretending there’s not still a pandemic is foolish.

        This is a novel virus and we already suspect it’s fucking with people’s brains and hearts in ways we can’t detect. We have no idea what “long Covid” is really doing to people yet. For example, if you get chicken pox as a kid, you may get shingles as an adult.

        For your sake I hope being flippant about this doesn’t come back to haunt you.

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      • HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Just because everyone else has forgotten it doesn’t mean the aware just have to shrug and forget about it. The average person is ignorant AF

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      • reversebananimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If only there were something you could wear to deal with it… like a mask?

        There’s lots of things in the world that are “sub optimal”

        That’s the difference between shitheads like you and real Americans. Real Americans want to make their country a better place to live for everyone.

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    • threeLetterMeyhem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They never really acknowledged it was here. I live near one of the Colorado locations and it has been (in)famous for COVID outbreaks the entire pandemic. And, for whatever obvious reasons, In-N-Out hasn’t had the same closures enforced on them that every other restaurant did. During an outbreak they’re supposed to close for a few days in our state, but they’re basically the only restaurant that has refused to close and has never faced repercussions out here. It’s maddening.

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      • FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There’s TWO in colorado. One opened last year, the the other just opened in April.

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  • negativeyoda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In N Out is okay. I’ll never understand the cult following this place has. It’s literally a case study in manufactured scarcity.

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    • poopsmith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. Everyone used to rave about how good it was, but I always thought it was just average. Slightly better than the major fast food chains, but on-par with every local chain.

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    • EssentialCoffee@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s like the Chick-Fil-A folks. Same cult, different chain.

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    • Yo_Honcho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It was the standard for me. Not the best but certainly above the average. Didn’t care much for it until I moved to the east coast.

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  • GortexGary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is why we NEED worker’s unions. They can fight this corporate power bullshit.

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  • nOvA_NoVa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Literally why?! This is so fuckin stupid.

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    • Serpardum@lemmyonline.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because The Covid is a lie.

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      • CaptFeather@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But it was also created by the Leftist Cabal to cull the world!

        It’s basically Schrodinger’s disease lol

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  • drdiddlybadger@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Am I mistaken or aren’t they also major republican donors too?

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    • Grimfelion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean… they have Bible verses printed on their cups and fry containers and what not… I worked for them back in the day and the founders were 100% what you’d imagine when you think of rich white SoCal conservatives… this saddened me but didn’t surprise me at all… and honestly, until I saw this headline I’d root for them 100% because they treat their employees well, pay well, and promote from within. As a company to work for (this decision excluded) they are pretty damn great.

      Although I’d like to offer an alternative to the conservative COVID denial option, which is they are very old school… I could totally see a couple of boomers deciding customer service (smiling at your customers like a cheesy training video from the 80s) is more important than health concerns.

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    • QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tried looking them up on goodsuniteus.com, but they don't have 'em.
      Fortunately, OpenSecrets' got 'em: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/in-n-out-burger/summary?id=D000072295

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      • drdiddlybadger@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Daaaang, thanks for the digging!

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  • colourlesspony@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s stupid. You want people handling your food to wear masks. At a minimum masks keep most of the boogers and nose hairs from landing on your food.

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  • Kethal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When I visited California, there were a few people who were very excited about sharing the In N Out experience. I like a good hamburger, so I was looking forward to it. It was simultaneously disappointing that it was just McDonald’s with a different name and off putting that its adherents think anything otherwise.

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    • Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh no don’t you start spewing hateful lies about In-N-Out. It isn’t a knockoff McDonald’s, its a double double orgasm in your mouth. it’s so much more than “just a burger.” I mean…that first bite-oh, what heaven that first bite is. The bun, like a sesame freckled breast of an angel, resting gently on the ketchup and mustard below, flavors mingling in a seductive pas de deux. And then…a pickle! The most playful little pickle! Then a slice of tomato, a leaf of lettuce and a…a patty of ground beef so exquisite, swirling in your mouth, breaking apart, and combining again in a fugue of sweets and savor so delightful. This is no mere sandwich of grilled meat and toasted bread, dude This is God, speaking to us in food.

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      • basskitten@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Damn straight.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        TIL In n Out was the best burger in New York City. Should’ve made it easy to find!

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  • Today@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I quit going there recently after reading that most of their meat comes from a place that is so bad it’s nicknamed Cowschwitz.

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    • SocializedHermit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its bad even getting close to Cowshwitz. The air is kind of green as you get close to it on the 5, all of a sudden you remember it’s there and try desperately to roll up windows or shut down the airflow in the car. In the end, it doesn’t help.

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      • smoked_wasabi@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Is cowshwitz Harris Ranch? It smells bad on the way, but what’s wrong with it, I mean beyond whatever is wrong with any similar place?

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  • foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re mediocre AF anyways.

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    • WookieMunster@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No they’re not, boycott anyway tho

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      • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        When I was in Arizona, I loved in-n-out. Now, in California, there are 3 places walking distance to me that wipe the floor with them.

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    • Voyajer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aligns with what my friends who've had the (mis)fortune to have had the chance to try it have said.

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      • Supervisor194@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean honestly, it’s a competent burger but it’s a fucking hamburger. It’s not haute cuisine. Also, their fries are limp as shit because they don’t par cook them. I cannot for the life of me understand why people wait in line for this shit. But I say that about a lot of things.

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  • Capricorny90210@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are none within a few hundred miles of me so … I’m doing my part?

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    • 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Overrated anyway. I was born and raised in L.A. and there are a million better burgers to be found.

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Totally agree. Don’t understand the cult following. It’s just fast food. Necessary on the road sometimes but I can’t imagine why someone would be excited about it.

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      • Sludgehammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh, and their fries really just suck. :|

        No matter what praise I’ve seen of In-N-Out the criticism of their fries seems nearly universal.

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      • TheHighRoad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I like that it’s relatively cheap, but the fries are bad.

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  • mrpibb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like In-N-Out’s food okay. What I really like is their simple menu. It’s the only fast food my family eats because they can do gluten free safely. The owners are definitely conservative and christian (and weirdly so imo) but those freaks know how to run a well-functioning restaurant. The mask ban is obviously stupid but I won’t boycott over it. Sucks for the workers, but also In-N-Out pays betters and appears to treat their staff much better than your typical fast food joint. I’d hate to see those jobs shifted over to something like another McDonald’s, for example.

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    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Five Guys is really good about allergens, including gluten. They have a special allergen free zone in the kitchen that is apparently a huge pain in the ass to prepare for use each time, but they make sure it’s not got any of what you’re avoiding. If you ask for something to be left out of your order they ask: “Allergy or preference?”

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      • bedlam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Five Guys? Good about allergens? I opened the door and was faced with a horror show. Peanuts to the left of me, peanuts to the right. Peanuts to the center. I retired from the field.

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      • mrpibb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s good to know, thanks. I’ve never been to a Five Guys and I’ve heard mixed reviews. Some love it/some hate it. I hear they’re expensive? I will try them for safe GF.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL - In N Out operates in more states than just CA and OR.

    Which states?

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Colorado being one of the antimask states surprises me, but not the other 4.

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    • GreenCrush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Texas as well. There are a couple.

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      • bric@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nevada and Utah too. I think it’s mostly the western block of states

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  • QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In-N-Out bans employees from wearing masks

    wut

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    • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’re past the 3rd year mark. Nobody is wearing masks and all the plexiglass has come down long ago. The masks were to keep hospitals from being inundated and keep everyone safe until a vaccine could be developed. Now that nobody is wearing masks we still don’t see the hospital overcrowding and massive issue.

      It’s over.

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      • GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So what does it matter then? Why do masks need to be specifically prohibited?

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      • reversebananimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nobody is wearing masks

        People clearly are if Republicans are trying to pass mandates against them doing so. You literally contradict yourself immediately. What you’re saying makes no sense.

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  • alliwantsoda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Here is the paywall-free version: archive.ph/fBFRe

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  • Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    More bland food I can ignore

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  • GodAwfulHorridSniff@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s gotta be better things to boycott than this.

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  • swan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s none in Canada so I’m doing my part!

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  • CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Easy, I started my boycott after trying it for the first time 10 years ago.

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  • MsPenguinette@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    www.in-n-out.com/contact/compliments

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