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T-Mobile secretly records iPhone screens and claims it's being helpful.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.droid-life.com/2025/05/27/t-mobile-t-life-screen-recording-tool-turn-off/

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    1. It’s also android phones. All of the shots in the article are of android phones.

    2. This is likely just recording sessions of the carrier’s app, not everything on your phone. Session recording for CS and UX is pretty common these days. It can be impossible to identify a problem unless you actually see what is happening in the app.

    That said, you have to ask for consent for this shit. A lot of companies don’t alert customers when they release a new tool that requires privacy consent.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is so. At the bottom of the article it says:

      To help us give customers who use T-Life a smoother experience, we are rolling out a new tool in the app that will help us quickly troubleshoot reported or detected issues. This tool records activities within the app only and does not see or access any personal information. If a customer’s T-Life app currently supports the new functionality, it can be turned off in the settings under preferences.

      So yes, it can only see itself, i.e. within the T-Mobile app. It’s still dumb.

      I’m not well versed enough in Android app development to answer whether or not one userspace app can even access the screen contents of another app without root or special permissions, but it wouldn’t surprise me if there are several roadblocks in that path on the part of the OS for obvious reasons.

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      • underline960@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        For quality assurance reasons, we’ve defined ‘within the app’ as ‘everything on the phone while our app is running in the background’.

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      • AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m not well versed enough in Android app development to answer whether or not one userspace app can even access the screen contents of another app without root or special permissions

        This requires special permissions and explicit user approval every time an app starts screen recording, plus it shows a red notification whenever screen recording is active.

        I think you could get by with a one-time user approval as a device administration or assistive app permission, which you’d need to manually grant in Settings. Unlikely anyone would do that by accident.

        That might be different for system-level apps. I haven’t bought a carrier-branded phone in 10+ years so I’m not sure what that’s like these days.

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      • Lyrl@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s not possible on Android, which is incredibly disappointing because I play a card game exclusively on mobile, and would love to use a collection manager and stat tracking app. These exist for PC and Mac, but not for mobile because of the very hard no-record-other-apps wall.

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Lemmy bring biased again?

      OP literally changed the title to include iPhone when the actual title from the link says screen recording.

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      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The article was updated. That may have been the original title since this was first discovered on an iPhone.

        Buy yeah, OP should update this headline. Especially since it probably hits a lot more Lemmy users than originally reported.

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    • Jordan117@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I wonder if this would include on-screen notifications.

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      • bluemellophone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That would be a pretty big security hole in iOS if that was allowed, but it isn’t. Notification and other UI elements are rendered on top of the underlying app, which does not have access to or cannot see the full screen’s canvas. We can see practical implementations of this “snapshot” test feature in code:

        github.com/uber/ios-snapshot-test-case

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      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Not the tools I’ve used. A lot of them aren’t even actually recording video. They’re recording the user interactions in-app, then playing those back on a cached version of the experience that is hosted with the session recording company.

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    • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sorry to lazy to go through articles like this, do they mention if this is just in the US or something? Or do they also do this in the EU?

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      • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Does T-Mobile operate in Europe? I thought they were a US carrier.

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  • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s only recording screens within the app. This sounds like an analytics tools. Any webpage can do this, common usage is click tracking.

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    • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yup. Worked briefly for a company that would “snapshot” the browser view quite often, enough where if an issue arose we could somewhat replay the user’s interactions to try and repro the issue.

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      • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Pretty much any error tracking analytic software worth it’s salt does that these days!

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  • FancyPantsFIRE@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Man, that pendulum swing from “the uncarrier” to full blown horrible large corporation. That merger with Sprint sure has made things better for customers, right?

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The only issue here is that it was turned on by default.

    It only records your use of the T-mobile app, and specifically tells you what it’s doing any why you’d use it. Off should be the default.

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  • libre@badatbeing.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well that app is getting yeeted pretty fast off mine, thank you!

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    • macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      *thrown, the word would be thrown. And even then, you would not throw an app off a phone. None of this makes any sense.

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      • DBT@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Weird how it made no sense, yet you understood exactly what they were saying.

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      • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Threw yourself under the bus there, didn’t you? 🤣

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      • libre@badatbeing.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Alright so I connect back like two hours after that comment, somebody gets ruffled at my language and they were downvoted into oblivion in response, that’s actually pretty funny, 5/7 would do again

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  • RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    with price increases a frequent occasion in recent times

    Good grief this article was padded for length. Who speaks like that? How hard is it to write “with recent price increases”?

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    • lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree completely with what you’ve said. Your perspective is thoughtful, well-reasoned, and aligns with my own understanding. It’s refreshing to see such clarity, and I support your view without hesitation. You’ve made an excellent and persuasive point overall.

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      • RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No dialogue is ever static; every conversation offers an opportunity to reassess and refine one’s viewpoints in light of new insights. In coming to genuine agreements, we learn not only about others but also about ourselves, gaining awareness of how our internal values align with the broader spectrum of social beliefs.

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      • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Your brevity is perfectly cromulent.

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      • tfowinder@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Agreed

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    • mtmtchy@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Most likely written by AI

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      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Most likely written by AI

        Are comments like this most likely written by AI? Am I AI?
        philosoraptor

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    • zephorah@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      AI. Probably.

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Active vs passive voice. It’s a thing

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      • RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The phrase in question has no verb.

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  • InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This type of gross invasion should be illegal and land executives and developers in jail. Look at how Germany jailed VW executives and developers behind a massive emissions testing fraud incident. Enough is enough

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    • deaddigger@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The thing is the ceo wasnt jailed due to “hwalth problems”

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      • InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I am getting so cynical I think I’m just gonna choose to reject this reality and hang onto my own and believe he’s actually serving time

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    • fwdbias@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yyeeeaaahh sorry no those are rich people you’re talking about we don’t jail them around here.

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  • red@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “Secretly”

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  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They’re straight up screen recording customers? That’s crazy.

    The crazier thing is, T-Mobile is USA which means they’re going to get away with it.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No, they straight up aren’t.

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      • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They aren’t what, they aren’t in USA? They do business in USA.

        They aren’t going to get away with it? Yes they are, they are a large corporation in USA.

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    • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And yet it’s a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG.

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  • bruhduh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    To whom?

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  • ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Another reason to only buy unlocked, non-carrier subsidized phones with AOSP installed if possible

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  • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tons of corporate software out there will record user sessions in order to debug issues and replay a user’s interactions so an engineer can review it. Take a look at tools like Hotjar, Logrocket, and Fullstory.

    Not making excuses for them and it’s probably less insidious than this makes it out to be, but people should be aware that this is not uncommon at all.

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  • Guidy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ok that’ app is deleted.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I suspect these recording tools cause perf issues on low end hardware.

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Depends on the tool. A lot of them are only logging interactions. They then “play” those interactions over a cached version of the experience to show you a “recording.”

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  • RaptorBenn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If it was in the EULA, it wasnt a secret. Our ignorance of t&c’s doesnt excuse us.

    We should all be advocating for limited T&C’s on just about everything, or atleast be concious of our own agreements.

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  • zephorah@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I admit, my skepticism regarding these companies has me leaving a black sticker on my selfie cam for a couple years now.

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