If you think Wikipedia is the only place that stores historical knowledge, please, start thinking about how much time you’re spending online.
After they kill Wikipedia history will be AI hallucinations.
Submitted 1 day ago by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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agent_nycto@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Zacryon@feddit.org 9 hours ago
You can dowload wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Wikipedia:Database_download
StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to offline Wikipedia for months but the torrent links on the kiwix site are broken or something. They stall out for me in the first 10m everytime. The download from your link is working perfectly.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
killing all of wikipedia is gunna be almost impossible, theres probably millions of backups around the world. here’s a few links to download it, meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents, meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps, en.wikipedia.org/…/Wikipedia:Database_download
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 day ago
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not only that, but MediaWiki is FOSS, and all existing content on all Wikimedia Foundation (except for a relative few kept on fair use grounds) are at most as restrictive as CC BY-SA 4.0. So you’d have whatever exists on Wikipedia currently (plus Wiktionary, Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies, etc., keeping in mind too that there are many Wikipedias besides English) plus the software that interacts with that data, other countries which haven’t fully descended into fascism, the members of the Wikimedia Foundation, a bunch of pissed-off editors, and a pissed-off public… I think a new, substantially similar non-profit would crop up in the UK etc., and very few things would have to change about the content that’s on the platform (where the UK has more restrictive speech laws).
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I did already, tried the XOWA client to run a local copy on my PC. Wasn’t as easy as I hoped but it worked.
Planning to get a couple of USBs stashed away with full copies of Wikipedia and the reader app for knowledge security. You can fit the whole thing with a working installation onto a 128GB USB or less. My install dir was about 69GB total.
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
additionally not everyone considers to backup the actual software used to compress/decompress the data. that isn’t permanent either and could disappear same as wikipedia, rendering such backups useless.
granted, it’s like, 10000x less likely than the already unlikely event of wikipedia being raptured. but the datahoarder mindset is better safe than sorry…
barryamelton@lemmy.world 1 day ago
USB sticks will lose the data after a couple of years of not being powered
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
They don’t need or want to kill Wikipedia. They just need to heavily edit it. Kind of a dream come true for those pushing a narrative.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
In my mind that would be killing it.
antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
It’s already happened, and is still happening. So is it dead? Or maybe it’s been a half-aware zombie all along.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 day ago
There’s more to history than Wikipedia. Like physical books
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I didn’t even think of that 🤦
I’ve been online for too long
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Back in my day you had to buy Wikipedia. It came in like 20 massive volumes that ate up a shelf or two.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
And historians
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The US based ones will be silenced because the algo will ignore them.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
I mean every historical source is full of one sided propaganda.
Have you ever heard the phrase “history is written by winners”?
What have keep history alive is not Wikipedia. Is the fact that multiple people from multiple POV write things down and we can find and read multiple sources.
Don’t get me wrong, Wikipedia is great, but it’s not what keeps history more or less accurate. Take into account that Wikipedia is a sum up of other sources. In order to write to Wikipedia you must quote a primary source.
And AI really doesn’t have much to do with anything here.
golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I mean they can try to censor it but I really don’t see why the wikimedia foundation wouldn’t just move shop to a different country, or a different group just starts running a mirror of it. Like it might be down for a while, at which time we would have to use mirrors, but I can’t see any future where its just gone forever.
Migmog@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Who are “they”?
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Tech bros like musk who capture companies to gut them.
Migmog@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
But Wikipedia isn’t a company. It’s a non-profit foundation.
Archangel1313@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Wouldn’t it make sense to just host the website from another country, outside of US jurisdiction?
j4k3@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There are a lot of citations to things like Britannica from 1911 that is archived and public domain.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Start downloading comrades
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
books exist