cross-posted from: europe.pub/post/372863
cross-posted from: metawire.eu/post/61363
The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.
Could happen to a nicer piece of shit.
Chances for the fediverse? Elon Musk takes hit as Europeans ditch X in droves
Submitted 18 hours ago by tfm@europe.pub to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-x-europe-social-media-twitter-takes-hit/
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b3an@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 18 hours ago
The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.
It’s a good start but we gotta pump those numbers up.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
The rest are bots and Russian troll farms.
arakhis_@feddit.org 6 hours ago
remember 80% of instagram is bots according to a study reported by german media.
so X id even say it could be more giving the vast hatred increase and content change over the last years. so basically they lost 90%
Wimster@europe.pub 12 hours ago
Don’t go to BlueSky !!! They’re not better than X. They obey to the same leaders… MONEY, GREED, AND POWER. A few weeks ago they restricted 72 Turkish protesters the access to their BlueSky accounts on simple request of the Turkish Government. So, BlueSky cannot be trusted they will secure the accounts of their customers. If Trump would ask BlueSky to block all accounts of members who are against him, they’ll do it right away.
Muyal@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Make mastodon more accessible then.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Which accessibility best practices does Mastodon break?
rational_lib@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
BlueSky may not be ideal, but anything is better than X.
X is just a machine for turning billionaire cash into political domination.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
bluesky is just early twitter, and it wont stay that way for long. they’ve already removed people from there that the Turkish govt doesn’t like and there is nothing at all stopping some billionaire like musk from swooping in and buying it all up.
Ilixtze@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
It’s not just X; American social media has been gradually turning into such a shit show for the last 10 years: censorship, misinformation, consensus manufacture and creeping enshitification. I jumped ship to the fediverse and never looked back!
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Europe doesnt want federated services, they want censorship.
barsoap@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
Meanwhile, in reality, the EU funds lemmy’s development.
DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
Christ, this is such a stupid take. You’d think that someone who was around on the fediverse would have an inkling about just how many instances are based in the EU and Germany in particular.
Just because a country or userbase wants a degree of moderation and accountability, and doesn’t tolerate hate speech, doesn’t mean that views are censored. Basic Popperism stuff right there.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
saying immigration needs to be lower due to a housing crisis will be called hate speech
Yeah, that’s kinda hateful. True, it really would make things easier for EU citizens if less people were using the limited housing. But it would make things harder for the immigrants. Putting citizens over immigrants is… xenophobia.
Why waste the government’s time solving the problem at poor people’s expense, when the government could instead tax rich people more to pay for housing?
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Putting citizens over non-citizens is called being a government.
Xenophobia is the irrational fear of foreign. And fear in this context usually shows up in the form of hate.
Putting citizens first does not mean hating the rest. Being a citizen of a country means that your government should represent you and your interests. It’s only natural that it develops into benefits for citizens.
Xenophobia on a person level is when you see a person that you think is not part of your same origin, do you cross the street, or attack him or whatever. Of course this is not even close to being an exhaustive list.
Xenophobia on a country level is when you punish foreigners irrationally. Not letting foreigners into your country because you have a housing crisis is not irrational, it is a valid reason.
I find it hard to find examples of country-level xenophobia. Even if the act itself may seem xenophobic, the government may want to gain popular support of their xenophobic population, which would be a reason and thus non-xenophonic.
Of course, not being xenophobic does not mean it is good. For example Israel genociding Palestinians is horrible. But their reason is that having a neighbor that claims the same land as you do is problematic, and they figured if they just kill everyone the world will forget in 100-200 years (or less) while the land will be theirs for longer than that with no revels, since they genocided them. Of course, having a reason does not mean that it’s not many other bad things (in this case, genocidal, which is worse than xenophobic).
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
If you had a zoo would you continue bringing in animals if they had no space left to live comfortably?
I’d guarantee you would call that inhumane, you wouldnt say they were being intolerant of the new animals if they did not.
BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Have you been to Europe? They have “walking” cities. You really don’t need a car to get around. My kids backpacked through Europe. The furthest they had to travel from a hostel was outside Amsterdam. 8 km on bicycles! My son just came back from Japan (I know, not Europe). He talked a lot about the “Shinkansen”. A high speed train that travels 280 km/h. They were able to travel all over Japan “without” a car.
Ronno@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
As a Dutchman, I agree we have great infrastructure and “walking” cities. But you’ve only seen Amsterdam. Outside of the cities, The Netherlands is more dependent on cars than you might think. I live on the border of the country and public transport is basically non existent and cycling is not viable due to travel distances, every adult has a car in my area. A family of 4 adults (children over 18 living at home) have 4 cars parked in front of their house here. We’re not as car dependent as the US, but we don’t live in a fairytale either.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Try to go to an anti-genocide protest in EU and see how fast you get violently beat up, arrested or get cops at your door to have “a chat”. All tose things in Amsterdam you mentioned too.
tfm@europe.pub 3 hours ago
Oh boy…
xeekei@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Too true. EC’s constant attacks on encryption is worrying to say the least. I hope nothing goes thru.
SushiRain@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Arresting people for retweeting? Really? Can you provide a source?
Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
It is humanities responsibility to make the rest of this man’s life miserable
arakhis_@feddit.org 6 hours ago
[deleted]johnlukepeckard@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
Where did you read that? 80% would be insane if true
arakhis_@feddit.org 3 hours ago
how can you respond to my deleted comment. I instantly deleted it after seeing a comment where I could add the same message under, so the discussion is more bundled
either way
funk’s german post referenced this Imperva Bad Bot Report 2024
Bongles@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Anecdotally, I watch reels on Instagram (i know) and the vast majority of meme pages that it shows me are the exact same setup around a slightly different premise, with the same purchased comments pinned from the same accounts or the accounts comment saying something like they’re too broke for paid comments please like.
80% is probably high but I wouldn’t be that surprised.
MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Abandon anything this Nazi touches.
logos@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
I forgot that people are still using Twitter. WTF!?
OpenStars@piefed.social 7 hours ago
They are not - he X/cancelled it.:-P
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
What about his children that hate him but are still his children?
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
I mean, Mastodon is German, so they’re probably moving here. The federated fork of Dorsey’s Twitter is second.
Kirk@startrek.website 13 hours ago
BlueSky is not federated. Also German users have outsized representation on Mastodon but most of the network is outside Germany.
tfm@europe.pub 13 hours ago
“federated”
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
There is always that one comment saying “b-but its technically kinda federated”. It doesnt fucking matter if its federated if 99.999% of all users are on one instance. The entire concept of a long lived, enshittification resistant fediverse relies entirely on being decentralized with a reasonably evenly distributed userbase. You fucking bet lemmy would already be completely worthless right now if people hadnt stopped lemmy.world from grabbing more communities and users.
froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Small chances for now, but let’s keep growing small communities here. People need to get tired of Instagram and centralized algorithms to switch to fediverse
foliekatt@feddit.nu 4 hours ago
I try to convince people to do “+1”. Like, keep X/insta/reddit or whatever, but every time you feel you have something to post, do the same at mastodon/pixelfed/lemmy. Those platforms are nothing without the network effects, and the network effects will diminish the more people do this.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I’d love it if the fediverse could have its own algoithms as long as theyre open sourced and made ethically, like they shouldn’t mess with peoples mental health or cause social media addictions
Muyal@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Yes. People don’t realize algorithms are one of the main reasons decentralized sited haven’t taken off. Most people don’t want to spend time looking for their content, they just want to log in, laugh at funny memes and look at pretty art
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Might have to also let people know the Fediverse exists?
shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
don@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
Those are rookie numbers, euros, get on that shit.
MeisterLemmpe@lemmynsfw.com 16 hours ago
Read an interview with a youth researcher that said, he does not see a problem with the content moderation (regarding extremism) because young people are anyway not interested in the disussions on there because its only for porn…
Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
twitter was used for Porn for most users, after the tumblr purge they all moved to twitter, or peopel curious about porn actors.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 19 minutes ago
Europeans don’t like Nazis.
Americans, well…
tfm@europe.pub 14 minutes ago
I wish this would be true.
Greetings from Austria, where a far right party is the strongest, although not ruling (yet)