Submitted 11 months ago by crimeschneck@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.wired.com/story/2025-4chan-hack-admin-leak/
I feel like the result of this is gonna be a big ol nothingburger. There’s no way someone works as a mod/admin for the most controversial website on the internet and uses an email address that can be linked to their real identity, and doesn’t use a VPN/tor.
Pretty sensationalist article IMO. I mean, they act like the source code being leaked is newsworthy. Somebody with a month of coding experience could write that website in an afternoon.
I already looked up 136 of the leaked emails. 61 of them are in at least one data breach.
Worse, some ppl used their work email:
The leak reportedly included [.]edu and [.]gov email addresses.
I’ve seen the list on the party site. Only 3 .edu, 0 .gov emails.
There’s no way someone works as a mod/admin for the most controversial website on the internet and uses an email address that can be linked to their real identity, and doesn’t use a VPN/tor.
People are lazy as fuck and will do all kinds of things that surprise you especially when they become complacent.
Tell that to Ross Ulbricht, he used his personal gmail account for shit with silk road.
Plenty of people just know enough to get what they want done.
Exactly this, but to be clear he used his personal email account on one forum where he made a post promoting it in the early days. Everything else was solid and, if they hadn’t found the post, I don’t think they would have been able to link him.
A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link and if the admin logs are descriptive enough, then it would only take one mistake to take down the metaphorical tower of cards.
Now please expose the powertripping reddit admins as well.
No shit. Reddit’s moderators are a bunch of assholes.
Ghislaine Maxwell was on the news around the world. Is that not enough?
wtf does that have to do with anything?
nosferatu hissing sounds
Good. Privacy is a fundamental right, but since that platform is regularly used to doxx people who are simply trying to exist, in addition to platforming and incubating some of the most harmful ideologies, they’ve relinquished any claims to those rights to privacy, as far as I’m concerned.
Your perception of that site is either severely outdated, or taken from CNN 🙂
Nope. If you intentionally cause harm to others with said rights. See my reply to someone else who made a similar assumption.
The way you’re describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.
Do you believe liberty is a right? It’s one of the first laid out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and yet I don’t think a single signatory nation doesn’t incarcerate people guilty of crime. By your logic, I don’t think there are any true “rights” in existence, because there are circumstance in which any of them can be taken away.
All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.
I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.
“Live and let live” obviously doesn’t work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn’t mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.
If you’re breaking the law then you forfeit your rights in favor of some much more restrictive ones.
You mean, people who operate a platform where people’s privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?
I dunno. I understand your point, but OP is also kind of right.
lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.
(or positions of power, etc…)
I’d say it’s more like a right that’s been taken away and they’re okay with that.
illegible@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Are we going to find out the history of q-anon?
pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not really. QAnon was only on 4Chan for the first year, then it migrated to 8Chan. But the tl;dr is it was probably started as a joke, taken over by bad-faith trolls, and has been under the control of Ron Watkins and his creepy son for a significant amount of time. QAnon Anonymous (now named QAA) is a great Podcast that’s been tracking the Q movement and other right-wing extremists for years.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hope so. Textual analysis suggests a “2 Q” theory where the earliest posts were mostly one author on 4chan (interestingly not all, several early drops are believed to be from different users) and then another person (who I believe wholeheartedly is 8chan administration Ron Watkins) started posting as Q and moved to 8chan. I’m interested in knowing who the earliest Q was and what the content of the very first Q drops was, given that there are believed to be several that didn’t get archived. Several people have claimed to be 4chan Q but none of their stories are particularly convincing. My guess is that it was a bunch of random trolls at first and then one of them just went with it when they started getting a following.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A person in my discord (with no source, so keep that in mind) sent the attached. He was theorizing that Q-anon was a Mossad operation based on this chart saying Israel has the highest quantity of posts after 2014. He’s fairly left leaning, and not one of the crazies on 4 chan yelling “the joos!” Having said that I have no idea if this chart is even legit.
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RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Eh, doubt
starsailover@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I have also seen this image but the question is what did they try to accomplish? If anything cesspools like 4chan have radicalized guys to the far right and increase antisemitism.
Valmond@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lots of swedes are radicalised, just imagine a country of under ten millions being seventh place.
And009@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Why’s it only white dominated countries?
antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
No. Qanon stuff mostly happened on 8chan, and even then there’s no secret “historical” data to access. It was one or maybe multiple obsessed and/or manipulative people spreading insane ideas anonymously, and idiots falling for it. There’s no secret inside some system out there, it’s essentially just organic stupidity.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Q was on both 4chan and 8chan. The “historical data” is likely not there at this point but the internet never forgets.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
I think q-anon was in another chan
Peer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
It started on 4chan, only moved to 8chan (likely a different poster) much later.
See for example: nbcnews.com/…/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took…
Q posts moved from 4chan to its more toxic offshoot 8chan in November after a post claiming the original board had been “infiltrated.”
HerrBeter@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The chan is closed
littlewonder@lemmy.world 11 months ago
8chan
Agent641@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Turns out it was Bernie Sanders all along. Finally, the deep state megajew lizard retreats to his orbiting space station with the breakaway civilization and starts charging up the 5G covid laser while petting his chemically gay frog.
illegible@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
That’s a lot to unpack.