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Telorand@reddthat.com 3 days agoAll rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.
I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.
All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away.
I know you don’t intend for me to hear this, but I heard George Carlin as you typed that. He has a whole bit on rights vs privileges.
Oh? I’m not that familiar with his comedy, but I probably should get to know it. What little I know I like!
People call him a comedian, and if you define comedy as “something you find funny”, then yeah. By that definition, he’s a comedian.
But really he’s just a philosopher who points out lifes absurdities, and it’s the contrast between the truth, and what people feel permitted by society to say outloud that’s the basis of his comedy.
He makes you get feelings such as “What? You can’t say that!” And then he does a routine, and you think “Actually, he has a point, it feels wrong to say that, but he has a point”
And here’s the biggest thing about him that people don’t understand. He died in 2008. So people always like to say “Oh, I wonder what he’d say about politics and society today! He’d probably have a whole thing on trump!”
To which I say he already did that. His material holds up because society doesn’t change. The same shit that was true in 1844 is the same shit we’re dealing with today. Race, power, money, status, war. It’s a tale older than recorded history. We don’t learn. We keep repeating the same paterns as our fathers generation, just as he did for his fathers generation, just as he did for his fathers generation. And so on and so on and so on. Small details change, but the landscape of human behavior is unaffected. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
aka the golden rule
I prefer the platinum rule of humanism, but essentially, yes.
O4PetesSake@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Those collective agreements include stipulations for what happens to someone who violates other’s rights. They lose some rights themselves.