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I feel like if asbestos was banned today there'd be a huge pro-asbestos movement

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨philz@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Asbestos must have seemed like a fucking miracle material. Suddenly, our tinderbox world was fireproof. You can build bricks, lightweight cladding, roofing and fences for houses, car parts, curtains, electrical switchboards and protective clothing out of it without the incessant fear of a house fire. It wasn’t synthetic or petroleum based, you could just dig it out of the ground. Yeah it would absolutely have supporters. They would be dumb, but they would exist.

    I remember my dad being angry that they were phasing out leaded petrol and he had to buy a seperate additive to put in the Datsun fuel.

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    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Still used in a lot of fireproof applications. Lab tables you see in chemistry and biology classrooms are a good example, most of those are made out of asbestos. Really, as long as it’s well bonded and handled appropriately, it’s perfectly safe. It’s just costly to do so, and greedy companies don’t care if their lax standards cause cancer 20 years later, so it really can’t be trusted in the hands of private businesses.

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      • Reasonable_Guy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most lab tops today are not asbestos based. There’s plenty of 40 plus year old ones still around that are and as long as you don’t break them they’re perfectly fine. But newer tops are all either epoxy or phenolic resin based.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Whats ruzzia’s position on asbestos?

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most asbestos is made in Russia currently so definitely

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They would huff that shit claiming its so great.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Absolutely would be, yes

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  • SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Don’t Tread on Mesothelioma”

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    • davetapley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Until lemmy gold is a thing please have these medals, I wish I could offer more: 🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅

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      • swab148@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We can let Reddit go, I think.

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    • parody@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Gosh, Don’t tread on me-sothelioma

      We were here when history was made

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      • Irelephant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Indexed by google (not bing or ddg’s array of crawlers yet) now.
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  • popcap200@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wasn’t Trump literally trying to bring it back last time?

    whyy.org/…/trump-wants-to-make-asbestos-great-aga…

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    • Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The use of asbestos in the US was only banned in 2024.

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LOL. Imagine seeing asbestos truthers coughing on their deathbed swearing that it’s completely harmless and that there’s a global conspiracy against it.

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    • octopus_ink@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, we can probably just find/replace asbestos for Covid - it will be the same people making the same crazy claim.

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      • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Many crazy ideas seem to go hand in hand. If you’re into flat earth nonsense, there’s a pretty good chance you also oppose vaccines, drink colloidal silver and believe in intergalactic lizards.

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    • Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are probably coughing because of the cigarettes car exhaust fumes air pollution goddamn libs

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  • eric5949@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Would be? My guy there is lol, just not huge.

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  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I need my full lead gasoline

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At least using asbestos has some value. If we had not found alternatives we would still be using it. One reason measures were taken to improve safety in manufacturing rather than just banning from the get go was lack of alternatives. What im trying to say is pro-asbestos is not as coocoo crazy as anti vax and such.

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    • Rogue@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We do have alternatives to vaccines though:

      You simply ban abortion and sex education which increases the birth rate and therefore it doesn’t matter that a few babies die because of preventable conditions.

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      • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Damn, take my vote in any presidental election.

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s still pretty bonkers to know something will kill you if you use it, and we just ignore all the scien e.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That would be tobacco.

        Asbestos is not dangerous when it is in a solid form and left alone, which is the vast majority of the use cases. It becomes dangerous when it is damaged, since that lets the fibers into the air. That is why in residential areas we leave it alone, but if it needs to be removed then hazmat type safety equipment is required. We leave it alone, which is the normal use, because removing it is the unsafe situation.

        Asbestos should be banned for anything other than extremely well regulated industrial situations that may need it like any other hazardous material.

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      • Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m full of microplastics but I keep buying food and drink packaged in plastic _(--)/

        Sometimes there’s just no realistic alternative. As nice as it would be to only buy fresh, unpacked food I don’t have the time, money or energy to deal with that

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  • SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Depends who would ban it. From my life experience, we have one side that definitely would because they get mad at anything the other side. ANYTHING. While the other side is typically more rational and has critical thinking skills.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have heard that Obama supports breathing.

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      • garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I also heard Obama supports Trump, so if you like Trump it means you like Obama and that makes u a dumb librul. Checkmate, everyone.

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      • SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I heard Obama and Biden are anti mask and anti universal healthcare now.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you talking about liberals being dumb?

      /s

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      • Wiz@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, dumb liberals with their dumb vaccines and pasteurized milk and fluoridated water and science. 🙄

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    • lowleekun@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thats however what everybody thinks about themselves

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A lot of those people are correct.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What do you mean … if?

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    • TIN@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Satire article? Please tell me that’s a satire article?

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      • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh lol, it actually is. That wasn’t intended.

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  • trigg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • MortUS@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As always, Simpsons did it…

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