Submitted 1 week ago by Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.
Reminder to watch Minority Report again… I don’t even remember whether that movie was any good or not
Can’t believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.
It’s great!
Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I’m not superstitious, but I’m starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.
Yeah, can’t say that I disagree
570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.
Data on “hundreds of thousands” of people can’t provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.
It can reliably predict when people are black, though.
a stab
I see what you did there 😄
And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol’ repression.
Precrime is here!
It’s the minority report wtf
Didn’t they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kind and his mom at all hours of the night?
Number of subreddits banned from?..site wide, that’s a lot of subreddits lol.
hey lets feed the AI crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting “predictions” be racist
at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):
Oh boy! …Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again! So… want happens when it is wrong?
We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.
Touché, indeed.
No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.
How about if we test it on politicians first?
US LEO are the real ones. In UK+EU they really aren’t murderous villains, many don’t even carry a gun.
And politicians don’t murder, they just fleece us.
And politicians don’t murder,
I beg to differ.
Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah
Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?
No silly, not after they input race.
Why are they rebooting “Minority Report?” The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don’t need a new one.
Thought crimes. Neat.
Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you’ll do when you are released?
You’re assuming they’ll ever release you.
“I’m sorry, we predicted that, if we release you now, you’ll murder someone.”
This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.
I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.
So what’s the plan after that? You can’t arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.
The UK isn’t the US, the government can’t just do whatever it wants and get away with it.
Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won’t. This is just the start. They’re slowly warming you all up to it until it’s going to be too late. There’s no such thing as “This can’t happen here!”. It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don’t organise and stop it.
I’ve read through the entire article and I can’t find anywhere where it says that they will actually be acting in the data. It also says in the article that this project was started by the conservatives not labour so again I don’t necessarily think there’s cause for concern right now. Also the fact the government even responded to the freedom of information request seems to suggest that it isn’t actually a secret project.
It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overly and cheerfully “nah mate, you haven’t done a thing. I’m just here to watch. For now. Carry on.”
Yet.
Aha the “it might happen” argument, used to justify pretty much any amount of pearl clutching that one feels is necessary.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but just saying it might happen and then providing no actual evidence as to why that might happen doesn’t really constitute an argument. We might have super intelligent AI by next month, but we probably won’t so I’m not going to worry about it.
Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS
social rating here we go
Was that a Black Mirror episode?
Probably. It’s also reality in China.
It was an episode on The Orville. Probably Black Mirror too.
I think I saw a Tom Hanks movie about this
WIIILLLLSSSSOOOONNNN!!!
What, some weird fanfic of You’ve Got Mail?
Hasn’t this been tried before? and failed
Let’s call it project insight.
Miniluv
The UK is constantly trying to get as close as possible to dystopia lol
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?
Call it Minority Report
aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Because they will inevitably target minorities?
whiskeytango@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Niooce.
alphabethunter@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Because of the early 2000’s movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It’s just institutional racism with extra steps