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Always guard against living in the world of fantasy rather than undeniable facts

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mickey7@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And then “4” guy will get upset about being called on his shit, and say, “Actually, you are the dumb fuck.”

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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Better yet he will ask you to produce the “source” showing that it is not 4

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      • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And then say that source is discredited, without providing a source for that claim.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The “4” guy is simping for billionaires, who will buy the forum and censor the other guy for calling him out as a “dumb fuck.”

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      • musubibreakfast@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Also the 4 guy has a podcast and a social media presence and thousands of followers who are willing to back up his idiotic claims and silence anyone who disagrees.

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The 4 guy is a lemmy.ml user and the dumb fuck guy has been banned for incivility

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    • straightjorkin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “Calling me a dumbfuck is infringing on my free speech”

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Not calling you a dumbfucks is infringing on my freedom of speech, and in tie breakers you defer to calling someone a dumbfuck. Source: 13 years practice in bird law

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Alternatively, “You’re rude. That is why your side lost.”

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    • TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Nah they’ll say “your the dumb fuck”

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Image

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    • sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      News flash buddy

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      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        My political opponents are Nazis.

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  • HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Very funny. And true. And sad.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And annoying because everyone, regardless of their political belief, thinks they are the second person.

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      • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        someone is, 50/50. the odds are good.

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  • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I miss the 1996 internet, when it was just us nerds arguing about Star Trek versus Star Wars. We never should’ve invited the rest into our space. That was the beginning of the end.

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I get the spirit of the comic, HOWEVER: if you put a little tail on it - you’re getting close to 4 territory.

    You shouldn’t go straight to calling someone a dumb fuck for that.

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    • camr_on@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      G

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    • 4oreman@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      its obviouly an incomplete 8

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    • Owlboi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      valid

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  • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s another guy off camera claiming that it used to be a 6, then the Jews made it a 9 and now China made it a 4.

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Guy on the right should be pointing at the dumb fuck

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    We could always argue how many days are in a week like on the bodybuilding forums

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m not naming any names but you know who you are 🤭

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  • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Image

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  • systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I try real hard to say what I think without being purposely insulting. I do this, because as soon as someone resorts to insults or character attack, I stop reading or listening to them (even when they am not involved in the conversation).

    Avoid personal attacks and name calling if you want your point to remain valid to the listener.

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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      People resort to name calling when they cannot debate factually

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      • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        People resort to name calling when they don’t want to debate factually.

        If someone gish gallops you, don’t waste your time countering every point. Tell them to fuck off.

        youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There are no undeniable facts. Science doesn’t prove anything objectively, it merely provides evidence to support or reject certain ideas.

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    • Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is true to the extent that science can only prove things through induction and induction is not as good as deduction for logical proofs. Which means that it is not “objective” in the logical senses as it relates to physical reality. But science is “objective” to the extent that experiments are repeatable by any any given person following the same methodology will be the same results.

      However the meme image is about interpretation of glyphs used to represent numbers. And the left guy on the bottom is a dumb fuck for not using one of the possible agreed upon options for the interpretation of that glyph.

      This is more about interpretation of language and communication than science. Which puts you somewhere between the “9” and “6” guys because you are at least keeping the conversation in the interpretation of data / epistemology arena.

      The problem are the people who see this and call it woke or start rambling about a flat earth. Those are the real dumb fucks who aren’t talking about any reasonable interpretation of the thing that is clearly being discussed.

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        But science is “objective” to the extent that experiments are repeatable by any any given person following the same methodology will be the same results.

        No, the beliefs of the researcher are a confounding variable in any experiment. This is called observer bias. Most researchers believe in disputed ideas like personhood, spacetime, and objects, which influence their scientific conclusions. This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. Science exists within our socially constructed world. A truly objective epistemology would be incomprehensible to us, because we are not objectively perceiving or thinking creatures.

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    • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Science is the language of the gods, and by speaking it, we become enlightened.

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You religious quacks are what’s wrong with science. Worshipping the idea of science instead of using the scientific method as a tool.

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As someone who argues on the internet alot it’s true, I’m part of the problem.

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  • random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Agreed, you dumb fucks

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  • joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s obviously an e

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    • klu9@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      g

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      • stepan@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        თ

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Post structuralism is a mental disorder

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    • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      questions the objectivity or stability of the various interpretive structures that are posited by structuralism and considers them to be constituted by broader systems of power.

      Calling people who disagree with you mentally ill is one of the reasons poststructuralists say you’re oppressing them.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I am oppressing them because they deserve it for their beliefs

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