I miss the 1996 internet, when it was just us nerds arguing about Star Trek versus Star Wars. We never should’ve invited the rest into our space. That was the beginning of the end.
Always guard against living in the world of fantasy rather than undeniable facts
Submitted 1 year ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Genius@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
There are no undeniable facts. Science doesn’t prove anything objectively, it merely provides evidence to support or reject certain ideas.
Belgdore@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This is true to the extent that science can only prove things through induction and induction is not as good as deduction for logical proofs. Which means that it is not “objective” in the logical senses as it relates to physical reality. But science is “objective” to the extent that experiments are repeatable by any any given person following the same methodology will be the same results.
However the meme image is about interpretation of glyphs used to represent numbers. And the left guy on the bottom is a dumb fuck for not using one of the possible agreed upon options for the interpretation of that glyph.
This is more about interpretation of language and communication than science. Which puts you somewhere between the “9” and “6” guys because you are at least keeping the conversation in the interpretation of data / epistemology arena.
The problem are the people who see this and call it woke or start rambling about a flat earth. Those are the real dumb fucks who aren’t talking about any reasonable interpretation of the thing that is clearly being discussed.
Genius@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
But science is “objective” to the extent that experiments are repeatable by any any given person following the same methodology will be the same results.
No, the beliefs of the researcher are a confounding variable in any experiment. This is called observer bias. Most researchers believe in disputed ideas like personhood, spacetime, and objects, which influence their scientific conclusions. This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. Science exists within our socially constructed world. A truly objective epistemology would be incomprehensible to us, because we are not objectively perceiving or thinking creatures.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Science is the language of the gods, and by speaking it, we become enlightened.
Genius@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
You religious quacks are what’s wrong with science. Worshipping the idea of science instead of using the scientific method as a tool.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 year ago
sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
News flash buddy
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My political opponents are Nazis.
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 1 year ago
There’s another guy off camera claiming that it used to be a 6, then the Jews made it a 9 and now China made it a 4.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As someone who argues on the internet alot it’s true, I’m part of the problem.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 year ago
Post structuralism is a mental disorder
Genius@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
questions the objectivity or stability of the various interpretive structures that are posited by structuralism and considers them to be constituted by broader systems of power.
Calling people who disagree with you mentally ill is one of the reasons poststructuralists say you’re oppressing them.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 year ago
I am oppressing them because they deserve it for their beliefs
kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 year ago
Guy on the right should be pointing at the dumb fuck
random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Agreed, you dumb fucks
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I try real hard to say what I think without being purposely insulting. I do this, because as soon as someone resorts to insults or character attack, I stop reading or listening to them (even when they am not involved in the conversation).
Avoid personal attacks and name calling if you want your point to remain valid to the listener.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People resort to name calling when they cannot debate factually
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
People resort to name calling when they don’t want to debate factually.
If someone gish gallops you, don’t waste your time countering every point. Tell them to fuck off.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I get the spirit of the comic, HOWEVER: if you put a little tail on it - you’re getting close to 4 territory.
You shouldn’t go straight to calling someone a dumb fuck for that.
Owlboi@lemm.ee 1 year ago
valid
camr_on@lemmy.world 1 year ago
4oreman@lemy.lol 1 year ago
its obviouly an incomplete 8
Zachariah@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And then “4” guy will get upset about being called on his shit, and say, “Actually, you are the dumb fuck.”
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Nah they’ll say “your the dumb fuck”
TheBat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Alternatively, “You’re rude. That is why your side lost.”
straightjorkin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Calling me a dumbfuck is infringing on my free speech”
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not calling you a dumbfucks is infringing on my freedom of speech, and in tie breakers you defer to calling someone a dumbfuck. Source: 13 years practice in bird law
grue@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The “4” guy is simping for billionaires, who will buy the forum and censor the other guy for calling him out as a “dumb fuck.”
Genius@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
The 4 guy is a lemmy.ml user and the dumb fuck guy has been banned for incivility
musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Also the 4 guy has a podcast and a social media presence and thousands of followers who are willing to back up his idiotic claims and silence anyone who disagrees.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Better yet he will ask you to produce the “source” showing that it is not 4
kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 year ago
And then say that source is discredited, without providing a source for that claim.
HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 1 year ago
Very funny. And true. And sad.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And annoying because everyone, regardless of their political belief, thinks they are the second person.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
We could always argue how many days are in a week like on the bodybuilding forums