Israel publicly announces genocidal intent

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• UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah actually, that’s genocide.

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  • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    okay but see no because the people doing it say they’re jewish, so, like… can’t be. it’s a new kind of thing, that’s like genocide but not bad for reasons. now pay up or we can’t finish.

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• hark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “return the hostages and kick out Hamas, and new options will open for you–including relocation to other parts of the world for those who choose. The alternative is destruction and total devastation.”

  So the choice is either ethnic cleansing with some genocide or ethnic cleansing with total genocide. This is completely unacceptable, yet there are those who argue that we must accept it and merely choose “the lesser of two evils” with the reason being that it could be worse. However, this only emboldens the evil and they will continue driving to make things worse and worse anyway.

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  • TheRealAsmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So… Do something about it

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  • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    also, they’re just gonna do total genocide either way, it’s more a cost effectiveness thing.

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• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This message is literally saying, “dismantle your military, and we will ethnically cleanse you.”

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• MTK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Genocide has been out of fashion for almost 100 years, guess it’s in now 😎

  /s

  Fuck this and fuck all similar shit.

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  • JacksonLamb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think it ever went out of fashion unfortunately.

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Israel should be dismantled. They are a genocidal state and deserve no statehood.

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  • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    and every single citizen hunted like the inhuman monsters they are, with local bars giving free drinks to anyone who kills one. sure. but that’s how we know we aren’t in a just world.

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    • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Get better at fed posting. It’s a little too obvious.

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    • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      inhuman monsters

      Fuck off with the dehumanizing rhetoric. You want an unending cycle of violence? This is how you perpetuate it. How do you think Israel came to be the way it is?

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No state “deserves” statehood. Statehod should be dismatled.

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    • vegantomato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Found the philosophical anarchist. 🙂

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    • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      but some are much much worse, and need to go much more desperately.

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fuck these fake borders dividing the people against each other.

      Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was

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• shaggyb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Downvoted. Not boring.

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• meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Top panel: the image of this post; bottom panel: Peter Griffin sitting in an armchair with a TV remote saying:“ah sweet! Man-made horrors beyond my comprehension”

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unfortunately, I’m fully capable of comprehending this.

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• middlemanSI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So when does the main trial start?

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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As soon as Israel stops being coddled by the US and Europe.

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• PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I would love to come across one of the voters that voted for the orange fascist because they thought Kamala would be worse for the Palestines somewhere in the wild. It would be incredible to see if they still feel strongly about it now.

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “shes not good,”" i dont like her" or she dint make useful arguments in her campaign" codewards for sexist reason they dint vote for her.

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  • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only real difference is Harris would have voiced disapproval rather than approval. Netanyahu seems pretty adamant about following this course. I doubt any conservative president would be able to stop it.

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  • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I love when people try to make some type of comparison between one fascist foreign policy party and another like one is better.

    This is American foreign policy. It is bipartisan. The only difference between Biden and Trump on Israel is the aesthetics.

    There is absolutely no reason to guilt anyone for not voting for the administration that was currently supporting a genocide or one that voted for the one that would support one in the future. US foreign policy is bipartisan.

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fact you even thought to call both policies fascist is incredible to me.

      One side at least attempted to apply pressure. Was it enough and more should have been done I will not argue with that. But no way in shape or form is the current option better when there was better chance of something happening under the other option given enough pressure.

      Plenty of reason to understand these people better so that messaging can be refined for the future, if they choose to feel guilt over their action or inaction because of this then good. Because look at whats happening and if this was their sole reason for withholding or voting another way then yeah I say they need to feel guilt so they can learn themselves how to better use their power to create change.

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  • AJ1@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    it’s about hurting the right people. whomever you need to hurt to push your agenda through, that’s who needs a whoopin’, but once that’s been accomplished, you can go back to hurting the people you really want to hurt. that’s “Freedom”, American Style

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  • Muyal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like how the people that a year ago were telling you to shut up about Palestine because it was hurting Biden are now trying to guilt trip you about Palestine

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    • Rhoeri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like how the people that a year ago were yelling at everyone to not vote democratic are now blaming l everyone who warned them what would happen if they didn’t.

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    • knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Haven’t seen that once.

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  • Iceman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Internet though guy over here, lol.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “yOu ShoULd hAve vOTeD FOr OuR BabY kiLLeR INsTeAD!”

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  • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I didn’t vote for Trump but let’s not pretend that Harris was going to stop it as she didn’t distance herself from Biden on this issue. Biden had 15 months and he didn’t, not even symbolically at the UN choosing to veto ceasefire, vote against Palestinian right to self determination and continue sending Israel weapons.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fuck you on about? Trump announced to the world that the intent is to remove all Palestinians, permanently, to build resorts.

      When did Kamala openly say the genocide should be accelerated and made total?

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  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I would love to meet the people that thought they could use even worse genocide to excuse their own genocide.

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The strawman keep getting bigger and bigger in these threads. Pretty soon they will be so big we will be able to host burning man.

    It would be incredible if democrats got rid of First-past-the-post boring in the blue states they control so people could be free to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect. But capitalists hate competition.

    As we can see by democratic inaction on reforming the voting system at the state level, democrats want to continue the hostage situation they present in every election. This is not democracy. Forcing people to vote for your preference will never be democracy. Thus the voting system flaws must be treated like the crisis that it is.

    We must be pushing for electoral reform in every state, but why is it so difficult to get the supposed democracy advocates in the democratic party to start moving towards making these critical reforms happen in states they control?

    Feel free to make excuses for the democrats. Feel free to attack me all you want. State level rlectoral reform will continue to be the nonviolent way out of this mess. I hope yall come around, even if it probably is to late.

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You falsely assume that I even considered these people having the overall numbers to even flip the election results, my comment is based on seeing how they feel about their decision now considering they were quite vocal about not voting for Kamala because she was a warhawk and therefore voted for a supposed “better”.

      The rest of your point has nothing to do with the article nor my point. So please ensure keep to the topic on hand.

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  • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I too would like to come across one in the wild, because despite people constantly bitching about them, I’ve yet to see evidence that they exist

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Please see the below excerpt from reddit:

      “# CMV: Leftist Single Issue Voters are a massive problem for Democrats. 

      Delta(s) from OP - Election

      For context, I am a leftist, by American standards at least, and have seriously considered not voting in the upcoming election because of the Anti-Palestine stance taken by the Democrats. That said, I have realized how harmful of an idea that is for the future of our country and for progressive politics in general. The core issue with Single Issue Voters is that they will almost always either vote Republican or not vote at all, both of which hurt Democrats“

      Also link to an article that shows there was in the very least uncommitted voters because of this. Yes, I will admit it does not mean they actually voted for Trump but their inaction caused the same result even if they did vote for Trump.

      theguardian.com/…/uncommitted-campaign-democrats-…

      So let allow me to correct my initial statement here for you, I would like to meet to talk to those who withheld their vote because they thought to make a statement about the genocide in Gaza in the light of the current Authoritarian administration.

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    • belastend@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are in this thread

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lol at all of the “hurr durr I don’t know who you’re talking about because actually blah blah blah” replies. Easy way to identify exactly who you’re referring to though…

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most just abstained, voters who actually switched sides don’t exist imo. If you voted trump last election, you never would have voted kamala even if she actually tried to win.

    That being said, I can’t really blame people for drawing the line at genocide of all things. The dems thought they had an easy win so they decided to represent genocide instead of us, the voters. I still voted for them regardless but it felt altogether gross. It shouldn’t feel that way, they are supposed to be the good ones.

    I don’t think we should condone the behavior by pivoting the blame to voters, who are just trying to be heard since clearly the democratic party has stopped listening.

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    • rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Most just abstained

      An abstain from voting is a vote that says “I’m fine with anyone or everyone”. An abstain is a vote that says “I am complacent to the outcome”.

      If you want to protest, if nothing else, write in.

      I can’t really blame people for drawing the line at genocide of all things

      They didn’t draw the line at genocide. If you stand and watch and do nothing you are complicit in the genocide.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What about all of the AOC/Trump voters? People are really fucking stupid here.

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  • GreyAlien@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Post about israel stating they will exterminate Palestinians

    You: it’s because of leftists and muslims and communist and santa maybe batman too.

    Way to subtly change the subject and optics. Why don’t you focus on the fact that the United States is currently aiding and supporting a genocide that has been unfolding for the last 70 years? I’m not american and I would have voted for Harris if I was one, but you are disgraceful for using minorities like tokens you can use and throw as you please, I’m quite certain that even if all of them voted for Harris, trump would still have been elected due to your f***** up gerrymandering policy. Putting the blame on hundreds of thousands and not on the millions of apolitical voters is MAGA level nonsense.

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Please point out where in my post I said that their vote would have even caused a flip in the election results, there was a group that withheld their vote in protest (not the ones that simply did not vote). So I will say there is no evidence I can produce that they voted for Trump, but the chance of none existing is not zero either. So yes I would like to talk to one of those voters or non-voters in protest to better understand why they initially thought a withholding of their vote in the first place when the worse option was clearly the other option should the election go one way in light of the current votes.

      Understanding what went wrong at all levels, and those protesting and withholding their votes was part of that issue. So cannot and should not be ignored if we are to learn from this for the future.

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    • rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      WELL, it’s worth discussing that leading up to the 2024 US General Election there was a bit of a bizarre alliance between global leftists and MAGA when it comes to media and information warfare.

      For completely opposite reasons each, of course. MAGA thought Trump was going to take the US to being the next level of Imperialist superpower. Global leftists thought Trump was going to destroy the US’s power and influence and end the era of the US being the world’s sole superpower.

      Only time will tell who was correct. Right now it looks like the global leftists were right - the US’s influence is rapidly deteriorating, and it may never recover.

      Trump is looking like a big global leftist win in taking down the US - at the cost of many Palestinian lives. And maybe this was the trolley dilemma, with millions of Palestinians on one track, and billions of people on the other. Can we accuse leftists of being the ones to flip the switch? No, but leftists absolutely argued in favor of flipping the switch to trump and the downfall of America, at the cost of many Palestinian lives.

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  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have no idea what you’re on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he’d be better for Palestine. A minority people refused to vote Kamala because of her open support of genocide, but that doesn’t mean they voted for Trump.

    In either case, why is it their fault and not the fault of the democratic establishment exactly? Shouldn’t your ire be for establishment democrats who refused to stop supporting a genocide? They could’ve done that, you know. This might blow your fucking mind but democrats can actually do stuff. No one was holding Kamala secretly at gun point and forcing her to support genocide. She refused to stop and instead parroted the usual talking points of Israel’s “right to defend itself.” Shouldn’t that be the subject of your anger and frustration? Shouldn’t you be furious at the democratic establishment becoming more and more conservative as time goes on? Shouldn’t you be outraged at the way democrats persecute the progressive elements within their own political party? Instead of angry at the handful of people who tried to make their voices heard on the subject of literally funding and arming genociders?

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Please point out in my comment where I said there cote would have flipped the election results, also please note you and others stated alot as evidence for these can be found that the majority just did not vote in protest because of this issue. But I won’t accept that there is zero that actually did vote for Trump for this issue that is mathematically improbable.

      People write of the non-voters or the ones (I will accept that these are very small amount) as a non-issue to focus on. But for me even understanding all facets of why they did what they did in light of how it’s currently panning out is to me a better understanding to find out what really went/going on in relation to people and this issue within their decision making particularly because there was a chance it could have been remotely better then what is occurring right now.

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Deep down the blue conservatives understand that the democrats cannot change because that would upset their donors for their billion dollar campaigns.

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    • OwlHamster@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      6 months up to the election there were posts on Lemmy every single day with people saying they were going to protest vote for Trump because of Gaza.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have no idea what you’re on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he’d be better for Palestine.

      These people were here and very vocal. Whether or not they were real people is another question.

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  • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was gonna say “there’s tons of em on .ml” but one of em was nice enough to prove it right in this thread

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    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One of them made this post.

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, I am happy to try and go back and forth with odd stray here. Not sure what those other heavily moderated conservative instances are like but if they are like the askconservative subreddit where I had to avoid using triggering words such as Trans because they would go all snow flakey on me then I suspect they might be the same even here.

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I, too would like to meet Sasquatch one day. /j

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Man these Democrats just cannot shut up.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Holy shit do you have a camera that takes photos of alternate timelines?

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    • puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Selling lgbt people, ethnic minorities, immigrants, poor people dependent on social programs only to gain… nothing. What a deal…

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    • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You wear a collar.

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Uh…I’m sorry to tell you, but republicans and Trump won. Everything that is happening right now is happening under republican rule. Sitting in your own piss abd blaming others don’t work anymore!

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Biden was pressuring Israel to act but also to do so with civilians in mind and to allow humanitarian efforts or risk getting cut off from military aid. Also the line that Kamala most probably would have towed as well. This is for those familiar with global politics is expected between long standing allies ( something Trump is currently failing at every stage currently). Meanwhile Orange Musolini has basically said “Have at it, also that spot there would be great for a hotel”. So I fail to see how you could even compare the two. But sure I guess if you happened to fail to grasp the nuance in global politics.

      Unless you happened to have another point to make that is more substantive then “bOth PaRtIeS”.

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