It’s more like we’re headed towards Elysium, except the rich dickheads move underground because the whole in-orbit thing is waaaay too fucking hard.
We could be going towards Star Trek like earth, but instead we're going for Star Wars like democracies
Submitted 2 months ago by sfxrlz@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 months ago
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
happy lemmings day :)
as an aside, do we really need to call it a cake day? that’s a reddit thing, and I’m boycotting reddit
burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Thanks
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Wdym by Elysium? I don’t think you mean the fields of Elysium here.
burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 months ago
It’s a movie with Matt Damon, basically the good tech, like “instant healing” pods, was being hoarded by the elite class in a giant in-orbit space station called Elysium. So Matt Damon has to fight to save the people left on Earth iirc
FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
…democracies? i haven’t watched a lot of star wars but isn’t the whole point that they are fighting a fascist empire
B312@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That fascist empire used to be a democracy until it was transformed into an empire by Palpatine
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I’m not familiar with Star Wars, but I remember hearing something about the original movies being intended as commentary/allegory for the Vietnam war?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah the Empire represents the USA.
The rebels represent the Vietcong.
Star Wars is literally US imperialism in space.
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Literally been (re)watching Clone Wars with my partner, and it’s scary how analogous the whole thing is to the US
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Nah homie. We are on that Cyberpunk expressway.
burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 months ago
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Senate will send a strongly-worded letter about the Emperor’s genocide of the Jedi.
CastorSulMush@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We’re headed straight to cyberpunk instead. Looking forward to watching juiced up and modded humans figheach other.
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Don’t think we even have actual good body modification, it’ll be all owned by corpoligarchs.
SirDankbud@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
We are very much on Trek. For reference, check out season 3 episodes 11 and 12 of Deep Space Nine. These episodes take place on Earth in 2024, roughly six months ago. It was always clearly laid out in Trek that their path to utopia was paved with war and hardship.
Well that and the fact that our first contact in Trek is with a peaceful but vastly superior race. We had everything to gain by creating an alliance and could have easily been wiped out by Klingons or Romulans if we didn’t.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
…where immigrants are objectified and treated exactly as disposably and thoughtlessly as the droids are in Star Wars.
It actually really bothers me how Star Wars loves to charm the audience with charismatic clearly sentient robots and yet doesn’t give a fuck about ANY of the ethical implications except for the occasional flavor sideplot. I am honestly tired of people normalizing this and laughing it all off cus arent the robot slaves cute when they grumble?
They are sentient, it is fucked up to deal with it extremely inconsistently but it demonstrates a stunning lack of understanding of the responsibility storytellers have to subvert dehumanizing narratives in all their forms.
Flummoxed@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Sadly, Star Wars mostly just reflects one single white man’s subconscious understanding of that culture (George Lucas). Just in the fact that Trek was written by many (yes, Roddenberry was very important but not the only voice) makes it more interesting, at least to me.
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
We’re on the Borderlands timeline. Yellowstone about to become Pandora in a few dozen years
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 months ago
We are heading towards a solar punk future unfortunately we will have to survive through a cyberpunk world to get their
Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not democracy, no.
Intergalactic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Star Trek is pretty much a futuristic communist society.
Star Wars is a galaxy constantly in a power grab war.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I’m sure it’ll end up fine just like Star wars!
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
I feel like AI + eugenics is a path to the Borg.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
“Could” is a very strong word with lots of assumptions.
Have you never read anything from antiquity? Even the Bible is a good start, you see the stories of how humanity has always been, and will be for a long time to come still.
Though it’s easily arguable humanity has already come a long way, and continues to improve (though non-linearly, naturally). Just your post here demonstrates this. You, me, and a bunch of other people, from anywhere in the world, are discussing these ideas, practically in real time. This was impossible as recently as 35 years ago.
Worldwide privation (notably starvation) has dropped 30%+ in the last 10 years.
The difference from my parent’s generation, to me, in the west is staggering. Infant and mother mortality dropped a staggering 90% from their birth to mine. They grew up always hungry, I did not. They saved everything: pieces of wire, string, old worn out parts, etc, because even if you had money, that stuff wasn’t necessarily even in the store. While I can order just about anything, from anywhere in the world, and have it in two days. They couldn’t get air mail across the Atlantic that fast.
RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Quiet, Rebel scum!
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s amazing what people will put up with if you promise them a light saber.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
It’d be pretty dope if we discussed society and politics using political theory and philosophy instead of different kinds of media
forrgott@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’d be pretty dope if people didn’t try to gatekeep, well, everything. 🙄
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
actually I wasn’t able to delete OP’s post after all
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Yeah, it isn’t like art can convey ideas and profound thoughts at all and never ever have fictional stories been used as a tool to talk about real events.
TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Didn’t the Star Trek timeline involve some sort of apocalypse on earth at some point?
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Star Trek’s WWIII happened from 2026-2053, I believe. So we’re still on track.
anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Vulcans would have to be real. Their presence is what makes humanity realize there’s a better way to live.
In fact Cochrane himself states that he built warp drive just to get rich. His intention was to jumpstart capitalism in a post-war world that had no functioning economy.
If Vulcans landed on our Earth after WWIII, we would just kill them and create the Mirror Universe instead.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah I was hoping for WW3 but we just got climate collapse instead. No star trek for us.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
100%