When Does Instagram Decide a Nipple Becomes Female?

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• NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ya it’ll be a cold day in hell before Instagram requires men to hide their nipples. Just shows how ingrained America’s views on sex, sexuality and gender are in Christianity.

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  • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Christian tradition, sure, but the Bible doesn’t have much to say about nipples so any specific rule regarding them seems to be more of an inference than a command.

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    • NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Bible stopped being a real guide for American Christians the moment they landed on our coast

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    • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I read once that it had more to do with not seeing wealthy women’s nipples. For example wealthy women would hire a wet nurse to breast feed their babies. It was a way to show off wealth and social standing. So the hired help in the form of a wet nurse could show her breasts, but her wealthy employer would not because its beneath her.

      So not showing breasts, even for the purpose of breast feeding became affiliated with wealth and power, whereas the inverse was true, showing breasts meant you could not afford to keep them covered.

      And that’s not even including the influence of brothels and prostitution.

      Let that cook for however many hundreds of years, mix in religion and you get whatever the fuck we have now.

      It was an interesting theory and seemed to make sense to me. I’ll have to try to find the article later. I read it maybe 10 years ago so it might take some looking.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What does the pope have to say about nipples? I’ve seen some in Christian art (didn’t touch myself to these, just in case), but didn’t realize there was an opinion on this?

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    • BMTea@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Catechism of the Catholic Church reads:

      The forms taken by modesty vary from one culture to another. Everywhere, however, modesty exists as an intuition of the spiritual dignity proper to man. It is born with the awakening consciousness of being a subject. Teaching modesty to children and adolescents means awakening in them respect for the human person." (C.C.C. # 2524)

      People here are not serious, they repeat slogans and polemics very superficially. The nipple taboo is found across pre-Christian and non-Abrahamic societies, probably because of breasts’ association with fertility. I.e

      When did bare breasts become taboo in Western civilization?

      Probably around 3,000 years ago. Women are displayed with exposed breasts in Minoan artwork from 1500 B.C. Some historians believe that these ancient women went topless only during religious rituals—bare-breasted, buxom goddesses have been worshipped since the dawn of civilization—but some of the artworks depict everyday activities, suggesting that bare breasts may have been commonplace. Just across the Mediterranean, ancient Egyptian women sported elaborate dresses that could either cover the breasts or leave them exposed, depending on the whim of the designer. Over the next few centuries, however, breasts become strictly private parts. Ancient Athenian women were wearing flowing, multilayered robes that concealed the shape of the bosom by the middle of the first millennium B.C. Spartan attire was more risqué, exposing the female thigh, but breasts were always covered.

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• ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Small boobies = nipple ok

  Big boobies = nipple not ok

  Is what I think this Instagram is trying to say. I don’t agree and think let the boobies be free.

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  • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Would that mean censorship of moobs?

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• FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  sign up to keep reading

  No, no I don’t think I will

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  • mosiacmango@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s annoying, but at least this is a small 4 man outfit that got its start less than a year ago after some layoffs.

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  • S13Ni@lemmy.studio ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I make an exception for one of the best tech outlets

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t it free?

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• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If women’s nipples are censored because they are considered sexual, men’s should be too. I know more than a few women who are sexuality aroused by topless men.

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why ban male nipples? Fuck that all nipples should be allowed.

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s my point.

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    • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gonna make a novelty insta devoted to hairy male nipples

      Bet it can beat Tik Tok to a congressional ban

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  • ODuffer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    She’d love Newcastle www.taps-aff.co.uk

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    • Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Omg that is funny.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you have like a list or anything? Friend wants to know.

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  tits out for harambe

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• BMTea@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “I’ve definitely learned that gender classifiers are an unreliable and flawed technology, especially when it comes to trans people’s gender expression,” Ada Ada Ada said. “I regularly see my algorithmic gender swing back and forth from week to week.

  Says the person changing themselves week to week to fit different classifications?

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  • knightly@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Precisely.

    Gender isn’t binary, there is no such thing as a male or female nipple. That distinction is something that Humans made up.

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    • Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To the extent that men can lactate! It’s one of the possible side effects of risperdal, which I have to be aware of because I give it fairly regularly.

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t understand this. We have two genders, how is it not binary and how is it made up? Honest question.

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not true! The female nipple is actually useful.

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  • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The only thing changed between photos is clothing and pose. Is that gender? Well maybe it is, but it’s useless for classification.

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it’s one thing I learned from the thread, it’s that the word gender can be anything at all.

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• Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  an oldie but goodie

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  • fl42v@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Huh, I was honestly expecting something like youtube.com/watch?v=dcYlytyuKsc

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• pinkystew@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  this is interesting as fuck

  “I’m really interested in algorithmic enforcement …” Ada Ada Ada told me in an interview. “It seemed like the nipple rule is one of the simplest ways … because it’s set up as a very binary idea—female nipples no, male nipples, yes. But then it prompts a lot of questions: what is male nipple? What is a female nipple?”

  She’s using her own journey as a trans person to document how AI tools like those used by Instagram identify potentially obscene material.

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We really live in somebody’s dystopian fiction. Life imitates art.

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• peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  … Because it all becomes Crab?

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• SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why are you using Instagram enough for this to even be a question?

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• socsa@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  New passing meta just dropped

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• ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think they call it “female-presenting”, so if it looks like female to them, then they ban it.

  Instagram is stupid anyway.

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you think the human female nipple is offensive and must erased from our perception then you are an anti-human enemy, your continued existence is an affront, you must be terminated.

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