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• anon232@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Biological sex != gender. There’s not even 2 classes of biological sex. There are men born with biological female organs and women born with biologically men’s organs. We all as humans do share common organs, one of which happens to be the nipple.

  Regardless of what your actual biological sex is a gender is simply a social construct used to identify someone. A person who is “non-binary” feels that their gender does not conform to what you would typically expect of either male or female based on appearances or behavior.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sure but there are two major biological sexes. I can understand how gender can be defined as something else though.

    Non-binary can decide what gender they feel like.

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    • BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anyone can decide what gender they feel like. Most people identify with one of the major genders, but many people don’t for multiple possible biological reasons. Nobody is in good faith identifying as a gender they don’t actually feel like.

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      • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure. If you define the word gender as identifying what you feel like, then it makes sense from that perspective. If I felt like my gender is someone who feels like a cat, that would be my gender then.

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• knightly@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ll take this as a good faith question, and the short answer is that gender is a lot more complicated than that.

  Yes there are two archetypal roles involved in sexual reproduction, but even that isn’t so simple. There isn’t just one feature that defines male or female, but a combination of traits including chromosomes, gametes, anatomy, hormones, etc. In the real world, some folks are born with features that don’t all agree with one or another archetype. Intersex people aren’t common, about 1 in 2,000, but their existence proves that sex isn’t just a binary. There’s diversity to sex that requires a more complicated scheme to account for everybody.

  Gender, likewise, doesn’t follow the one-or-the-other model. Most folks are cisgender, but some folks have a gender that doesn’t agree with what people assume their sex is, or no gender at all, or a gender that doesn’t fit into the man/woman spectrum. It gets complicated quickly because gender is where sex and society intersect. Some cultures have different expectations based on gender, and some even have more than two recognized genders.

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  • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    their existence proves that sex isn’t just a binary.

    This argument has always struck me as odd as in virtually every other discussion we would accept that the exception ‘proves the rule’.

    Humans have two hands, except when they don’t due to something impacting fetal development.

    Humans have two kidneys, except when they don’t due to an error in fetal development or as a result of disease or injury.

    There’s diversity to sex that requires a more complicated scheme to account for everybody.

    Or just let the exceptions be exceptions with no social stigma rather than refusing to recognise that the vast majority of humans, and mammals, can be accurately identified as one of two distinct sexes.

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• Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Poster below gave you all the answer you’d ever need on this question you beg… If you have any integrity, add a note to your original comment to clarify that you were mistaken in your initial assumption and why.

  But, doesn’t seem likely that you will.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s interesting that you sound so angry. Is it because of gender issues?

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• BMTea@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Their argument is that “gender is just a social construct”, without acknowledging that some of the most paramount aspects of human existence are “social constructs” (i.e language) and that gender is one of them. And without addressing why sexual taboos (like public nudity) are gendered - to them its a form of irrational injustice. But expore the social ramifications -through real and hypothetical examples- and you quickly find that it is indeed rational to treat bodies different according to their gender, and that human social psychology does have strong roots in human phsyiognamy.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    From the person I talked to above, they are using gender to describe how they feel about who they are. So maybe it’s just a word difference.

    I’m very downvoted for being in this thread though and so are you. It’s a bit funny.

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