AI-powered weapons scanners used in NYC subway found zero guns in one month test

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• Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So it isn’t working and is just more tax dollars wasted on the security theater? Cool.

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  • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Earlier this year, investors filed a class-action lawsuit, accusing company executives of overstating the devices’ capabilities and claiming that “Evolv does not reliably detect knives or guns.”

    It’s fraud. The company knows it’s unreliable and the investors know it’s unreliable, I wonder why NYC is still going to expand the trial run? 🤔

    [Mayor] Adams has touted the Massachusetts-based company since taking office in 2022.

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    • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They found a scam to replace stop & frisk.

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    • gt5@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be fair, he’s also a former cop. He’s also under indictment for fraud so take that for what it’s worth

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  • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TSA… security theater for the low, low price to taxpayer of $11.2 BILLION dollars

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, no. We just need to keep using it! It just needs a bigger sample. Surely, we’ll find a weapon, eventually!

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    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s the TSA for the subway!

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  • Doorbook@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    more tax dollars stolen

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All personal income taxation is theft.

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not exactly, no. From other comments, it also have an incredibly high false positive rate, so it’s negative security.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In total, there were 118 false positives — a rate of 4.29%.

  Earlier this year, investors filed a class-action lawsuit, accusing company executives of overstating the devices’ capabilities and claiming that “Evolv does not reliably detect knives or guns.”

  I mean, I’d be more concerned about the false positive rate than the false negative rate, given the context. Like, if you miss a gun, whatever. That’s just the status quo, which has been working. Some money gets wasted on the machine. But if you are incorrectly stopping more than 1 in 25 New Yorkers from getting on their train, and apply that to all subway riders, that sounds like a monumental clusterfuck.

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  • jettrscga@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    With how trigger happy police are, the false positives would lead to more deaths than they prevent. And police would claim it’s justified because the machine told them so.

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    • Toribor@corndog.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Facial recognition confirmed he was a criminal and the scanner confirmed he had a gun! Of course we opened fire instantly. How could we have known it was just some guy with a water bottle?

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  • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    False positives are fine because they only happen to poors.

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  • dezmd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Not Hotdog”

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• narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The article links an article from March '24 talking about the introduction of these devices that contains this part:

  The scanner that Adams and police officials introduced during Thursday’s news conference in a lower Manhattan station came from Evolv, a publicly traded company that has been accused of doctoring the results of software testing to make its scanners appear more effective than they are.

  So they could never be trusted but were still allowed to proceed.

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look, we can either look at facts and check the claims of that company that we’re going to invest a lot of money into, or we can accept their bribe and move on. It’s all about efficiency.

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• Texas_Hangover@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We have this ridiculous system at my work. Knives are prohibited, but get through all the time, tape measures and water bottles really piss it off though.

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  • SiEstUbiEst@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why are you stabbing each other instead of being productive? Had anyone asked this? Is it the oppressive work environment?

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    • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He works at the knife factory

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    • lando55@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Haha you sound like the type who would bring a water bottle to a tape measure fight

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    • Strobelt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re making the wrong questions here.

      How can we use AI to stop or improve the stabbings? This is what get you a raise nowadays

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Knives are prohibited

    It’s political correctness gone mad. Who doesn’t want to take a machete to work with them?

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    • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Now you see, my boss allows the knives because he’s not a woke. The reason your office doesn’t want you to have the knives is because the knives give off natural ALPHA digital testosterone signals, especially colloidal silver knives made from gold. These ALPHA signals interrupt the 5G signal in the office chairs at your work. The chairs use the 5G to send wireless vaccines directly into your genitals and that can make you all trans DEI CRTS! This is why my boss, who’s also the local county republican chapter president, has to hand inspect all of our genitals (and out children’s) when we enter or leave the office each day. To make sure that rogue signals didn’t get us. Careful out there snowflake.”

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    • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wanna show off my new blades so my coworker can see how cool it is

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  • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Knives are prohibited

    Tru fax, I am never working where you do, ever, so long as I live. I’d melt like the Wicked Witch of the West, I’m sure.

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• Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I saw a dude jogging up the stairs and his gun fell out of his hoody sweats. He looked at it for a second and the picked it up and put it on his hoody like it was his phone.

  5/7 best subway exit ever.

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  • magikmw@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know the reference, and I’mma let you finnish, but 5/7, bruh that’s a gucci gun.

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• spyd3r@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Someone should tell NYC that it is unconstitutional to infringe upon a person’s right to bear arms.

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  • RedC@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s funny that it’s all about states right to form their own laws until it’s about guns.

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    • BD89@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be fair, I don’t think a state is supposed to make laws that take away constitutional rights though. It’d be like a state making a law taking away your freedom of speech, I don’t think that’s supposed to be allowed with state rights and all

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• OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And people say New York isn’t safe.

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