Do you refrain from participating to a community if it's hosted on Lemmy.ml ?

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• rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, because its nonsense tribalism. I haven’t seen any actual consistency in nonsense takes between any particular instances, with only a couple of extreme examples (explodingheads, grad, yddrasil, etc) that are already blocked or dehosted. ML has more socialists, because lemmy was a little leftist community project at first and it’s one of the oldest and biggest instances. Big instances also have a lot of idiots. World has a reputation for a lot of idiots, because it’s by far the biggest instance. That doesn’t mean everyone, or even most people, are idiots that are on the instance.

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  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When the admins spend more time banning people for speaking against fascist russia than developing lemmy it doesn’t matter what the userbase is like. And not wanting to participate in an instance where the admins religiously scan every comment for wrongthink is pretty reasonable and not tribalism.

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have anything against .ml users as a whole. As you say, every instance has its bad apples.

    But .ml has the most hostile and heavy-handed admins of any instance I know of. It makes it impossible to have real conversations because talking about certain topics will get you instantly banned from the whole instance. It’s not about socialism either. In fact that’s part of the problem—I’m a leftist myself who would like to discuss leftism there and I used to enjoy doing so, but at this point that’s only possible if you follow the admin’s ideological beliefs on practically everything to a tee. It’s a toxic environment where real conversations can’t take place.

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  • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ignoring reality doesn’t make it less true. Certain groups of people or environments are worse than others, acting like that isn’t reality is pretty naive.

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  • zante@lemmy.wtf ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is the biggest flaw with Lemmy at the moment.

    I think I’m on my 4th account . Mods tend to block me befor I block them.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m only an idiot when I fully intend to be one.

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• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, there are no instances whose communities I refuse to participate on. I have never blocked a community, user, or instance here.

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  • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh man I don’t know how I would use this place if I couldn’t block communities. First few weeks I try to use Lemmy every single post was just memes so I’d end up blocking like two dozen communities to stop it.

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    • spookex@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not to mention just randomly scrolling in public and whoops, it’s a random porn clip brought to you by lemmynsfw

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  • sag@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me too but clearly Lemmy.ml doesn’t like me xD

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  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *Besides the ones your instance has defederated from

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• poszod@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve blocked the instance quite a while ago. In the beginning I was just blocking communities, but the users spill everywhere unless you go nuclear.

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  • ownsauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for this info, I didn’t realize you could block an entire instance.

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    • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can’t really. I mean you can block an instance, but that only hides the communities that are on it - you’ll still see the users. The only way I know how to ditch the users, besides blocking each one individually, would be to make a new account on either dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe where all 3 of the big 3 are completely defederated. Think of those instances as troll-blockers, working hard to keep the Fediverse pleasant to converse in:-).

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• quinacridone@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is something that that bothers me… I joined lemmy.ml around 3 years ago as one of the pirate subs on reddit made a backup community there in case they were banned.

  Fast forward to the api debacle, I started to use lemmy as a permanent alternative, and made 3 of my favourite art communities- abstract photography, collage and printmaking

  It’s always been in the back (and sometimes the front of my mind) whether to move them elsewhere, partly because people commenting on their ‘blanket ban’ of lemmy.ml, and the fact that I sometimes feel that I’m on one of the ‘pariah’ instances.

  It’s interesting reading the comments here, especially considering the art communities are laid back, without politics, and haven’t had any issues (so far)…

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  • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Moving communities is always an option.

    We moved !casualconversation@lemmy.world to !casualconversation@lemm.ee a while ago, it worked fine, it’s even more active now that it used to be as there is no delay due to LW size

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    • quinacridone@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep, it’s something that has occurred to me, I’ve got an idea of which instance and all that, but I’d probably need to speak with the admins. I don’t know whether communities can migrate over posts/comments etc and part of me is reluctant to leave all that behind… BUT, I’ve done it once from scratch, so it’s not impossible

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For me it was a blanket ban that finally caused me to unsubscribe from every ml community. If it wasn’t for that then it might be OK to keep hosting a non-political sub but the censorship over there is so aggressive and widespread that it’s very difficult to avoid.

    I would say think about migration because if anything the problem is getting worse over time.

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  • NexiusLobster@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do agree that art subs in general are among the most politics-free areas of lemmy, (speaking as a moderator of traditional art)

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    • quinacridone@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have mostly refrained from posting political art, even though I do really like a good caricature (I grew up on Spitting Image, and other British satire progs), and also political art is, well… art

      But, people come to see the nice pictures and chill out for a bit, which is fair, and it’s good to have that as a community

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• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  lemmy.ml tends to have an immature userbase with immature mods. It’s a weird bubble of insane extremists that are all about ideological purity tests. They aren’t really interested in discussion and will ban anyone that doesn’t conform to their extremism that is edging towards stochastic terrorism.

  So needless to say, I’m banned from lemmy.ml, and I feel like that’s a badge of honour. But that does mean I won’t be engaging with any community that’s hosted on lemmy.ml.

  So if you want to have discussion that’s not about how super awesome the violent overthrow of the government of your country would be, I’d recommend not hosting your community on lemmy.ml.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So what you are saying is that since you are banned from lemmy.ml, you cannot participate in communities such as Firefox@lemmy.ml, for reasons entirely unrelated to anything that you said in that community?

    Which means conversely that from your perspective, that entire community - and all others likewise hosted on lemmy.ml - are “held hostage” behind you either outright agreeing with whatever stance is taken by the instance admins, about whatever subject matters they choose to be the defining criteria for exclusion from the instance, or else at least you need to STFU about your true thoughts, about e.g. China, and capitalism, and Russia, and whatever else they feel like adding at any given moment.

    It would have been nice to have had a warning presented to you, wouldn’t it? Like when you first go there, have a popup or sidebar note saying “Warning: you must agree that neither China nor Russia is actively engaging in genocide in order to participate in this community discussion about… <checks notes> the popular Firefox web browser”.

    I bet reading the sidebar notice presented on lemmy.ca did not quite prepare you for that!?!?!?

    It would be nicer to segregate “political” communities and instances from apolitical ones. Except these days, facts themselves are political, and all we can do is suck it and swallow.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah it’s really lame… seems like the ban is permanent, so I went ahead and blocked lemmy.ml. No point in seeing content from communities that some self-righteous admin decided I shouldn’t be allowed to interact with.

      It is what it is. I already left reddit because of their bullshit owners. There’s still way better communities on reddit than on lemmy.ml, and as bullshit as the owners of reddit are, they’re still not as bad as the owners of lemmy.ml. So if it were really an issue to me I’d just go back to reddit. But it’s fun to discuss things in smaller communities so I’ll stick with lemmy, just not lemmy.ml.

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• ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Previously no. Now yes. Apparently got banned for inciting ‘peril’ against my own race because tankies don’t know the difference between ethnically Chinese and of Chinese nationality, and apparently you can’t criticize china in the forums. Throw in a few abusive individuals from the same instance shooting off the mouth and I pretty much said fuck it, I’m out.

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• squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

  I would vote for moving it elsewhere. Maybe lemmy.zip would be a good instance that’s focused around tech and gaming. Or discuss.tchncs.de because !trucksim@discuss.tchncs.de is already hosted there.

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  • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are a very active poster here, so moving it to that instance would also be convenient in case you need to mod

    Also, that instance is very well managed, always impressed with the other services they offer.

    Based on the comments, it seems like we should definitely suggest this. Would you like to make a meta post or do I do it?

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    • squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m busy this weekend. Feel free to go ahead with the post.

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• Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Of course.

  They banned me for calling Russia imperialist in one of their rant post, and claiming NATO was necessary because countries keep invading their neighbors.

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  • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Our based opinions aren’t allowed over there. You have to bend left until your view is broken.

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    • naught@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean really you’re bending upward to authoritarian on the compass

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  • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile the Hexbear users saying that “crackers” should be murdered are welcome to continue their discussions on .ml.

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  • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same, but Gyna.

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• iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pasting from another comment in this thread:

    The only way I know how to ditch the users, besides blocking each one individually, would be to make a new account on either dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe where all 3 of the big 3 are completely defederated. Think of those instances as troll-blockers, working hard to keep the Fediverse pleasant to converse in:-).

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    • iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I never pay attention to, or care about where a community is hosted

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• GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yep. Even if it’s larger, I’ll post in a smaller, non-ml. I don’t mind reading their stuff and them existing but with the seemingly random moderation shenanigans, I avoid it.

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• Microw@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No. I have blocked a few specific lemmy.ml communities but I don’t generally avoid interacting with lemmy.ml.

  There are other instances I have blocked completely (a certain grad).

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• fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes!

  That instance just has a stink on it.

  I’m sure there’s some normal users or communities bit there’s a lot who are just plain unpleasant to interact with.

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• Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Completely banned, I have zero interaction with them.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes.

  Lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net definitely.

  Lemmy.ml has some less-bonkers communities, but !world@lemmy.ml generates some of the most complaints, and I’m willing to paint with a broad brush on this one. There’s only one community that I can think of that doesn’t presently have a non-lemmy.ml alternative, and that’s !mechanicalkeyboards@lemmy.ml, and !ergomechkeyboards@lemmy.world has overlap. Also, aside from issues with instance policy, I think that lemmy.ml in particular is not a great instance for major communities, because it’s the “dev” instance and Lemmy has had some serious periods of problems where stuff slipped through testing and led to major problems. Lemmy.world did not hit this, because the admins there are more-conservative about updating, held off until they were sure that new releases were solid. My own home instance at lemmy.today crashed into repeated serious problems with new releases, and the admin decided that in the future, he would also be more conservative about updates.

  I also think that it’s broader than disagreeing with someone. I’m not a furry or trans, for example, but I’ve no problem with pawb.social or lemmy.blahaj.zone and have never seen any complaints about moderation on those special-interest instances. However, there’s an entire community, !MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works, that highlights a lot of stuff that often I’d call pretty unreasonable off in .ml land.

  That being said, a number of major lemmy instances have defederated with lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net, and I chose my home instance of lemmy.today specifically because it did not defederate with instances. I want to personally make the call on instance content and on users on an instance. I’ve only ever blocked one user, and they were just relentlessly spamming images in communities, and I’ve never blocked an instance. I normally just view communities by subscribed, look at a “whitelist” of communities, not “all” plus a blacklist, though.

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  • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I also think that it’s broader than disagreeing with someone. I’m not a furry or trans, for example, but I’ve no problem with pawb.social or lemmy.blahaj.zone and have never seen any complaints about moderation on those special-interest instances.

    Thank you for pointing this out, that’s a good point

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    • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have seen complaints about them, but they seem relatively minor and resulting from an overzealous attempt to protect their users, which I find understandable. I have never had anything but pleasant conversations with Ada the instance admin of lemmy.blahaj.zone and have thoroughly enjoyed everything I’ve ever read from them.

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• Diva@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m more of an anarchist and I’ve not had issues with hexbear or .ml, though I don’t block lemmygrad I’m not subbed to most of their communities mostly because sectarianism bothers me.

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• zod000@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have to say the responses in this thread are a bummer, but I’m not surprised. I signed up on lemmy.ml because when I read the descriptions of the various instances, ML’s “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts” sounded pretty great and I saw a lot of technical communities that interested me. I didn’t expect the politics. I tried to make a new user on .world a few months back, but I seemed to get stuck in some sort of user verification limbo. Maybe I’ll try midwest.social since I moved to the midwest recently.

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  • B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    DBZero is a great option if you like something slightly edgy

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    • zod000@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dbzero and programming.dev are already also high on my list, but thanks for the recommendation. I’m not in a super hurry to move or anything, I’ve never been given a hard time on ML, but I hate to think I’m slowly being edged out of the wider lemmy experience.

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• cacheson@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes, I block lemmy.ml communities when I notice them, just because I don't want to accidentally contribute anything to that instance. Some of the users are okay, but the admins are not.

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• Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes. I’ve had personal experience, many times, of over the top censorship and bans based on opposing views expressed in a mature and rational way. Once or twice is fine, but I’ve seen it more there than my entire combined experience online, it’s crazy and happens to often to ignore.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fwiw, lemmy.cafe defederated from lemmy.ml, and is even running a 0.19.6 beta codebase so even if there’s only a single admin they seem really on the ball.

    Tesseract also has implemented a way to ban all users from lemmy.ml.

    And PieFed allows personal bans on any custom instance you choose. Plus it has “categories” of communities so that you don’t have to keep searching on All, though you can do that too if you want. It seems really polished these days! Not 100% - e.g. you can’t easily search for a user in the same form as a keyword - but it looks extremely usable, so I am switching to it today.

    Meanwhile, on Lemmy we were promised that 0.19.3 would allow user blocking of instances, which turned out to be not quite true, and when your instance upgrades from that to 0.19.6 when it comes out (most other instances, like mine, are already running 0.19.5), the protections that it offers will be further rolled back - e.g. on 0.19.3 I did not receive notifications from those users, whereas now on 0.19.5 I do.

    And maybe some apps allow blocking of an instance, I dunno about that aspect.

    Lemmy.ml was one of the first instances in the Fediverse… but that doesn’t mean that we should be forced to listen to the stuff spewing forth from it unless we choose that for ourselves, especially in the next few months as the trolls go into overdrive due to the ongoing USA election (and likely subsequent “constitutional crisis” event).

    Anyway, I just wanted you to know that there are options! Not many, but they do exist!:-)

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• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Instance blocked it. The mods are corrupt and actively shape conversation to align with their world view, without transparency.

  It’s fine to disagree, and want respectful discourse, but it isn’t ok to use very vague sidebar rules to scour dissent

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• WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes. I find their gaming-chair leftism and obnoxious preachiness annoying enough to just avoid. My blocklist is filled with .ml users, and none of those were because of any political positions. It’s because they were annoying whinging twats.

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  • InverseParallax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s because they were annoying, whinging twats.

    Not even whinging, screaming.

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• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I see more content complaining about .ml than I see content on .ml worth complaining about.

  I generally don’t block instances, communities, or users, either. I just know I am capable of recognizing a shit take on politics anywhere and can move on without existential or social crisis.

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just know I am capable of recognizing a shit take on politics anywhere

    Not when the “shit take” in question is the arbitrary, capricious, unjustified removal of thoughtful, insightful, accurate, reasonable posts and comments. You (generally) can’t recognize the “shit take” of removing good content unless you spend all day reading the mod logs.

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, but I can almost always check the modlog when a user complains about how their thoughtful, insightful, accurate, and reasonable post or comment was arbitrarily, capriciously, and unjustly removed.

      And that comparison rarely disappoints.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I only block communities. I don’t want to see half of conversations, and haven’t encountered a whole server where they refuse to admin properly.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s bc you are an established user who knows their way around how to use Lemmy. Perhaps you even use Arch btw? (/s, but only partway, bc those of who enjoy the customizability of Linux really are a breed apart from the mainstream, in terms of our value judgements in particular)

    However new users to Lemmy find it very off-putting. Also, people in the USA are touchy, watching our democracy crumble before our very eyes - there is something like a 50% chance that it won’t survive even though the next year, regardless of who wins, but if it does, then we’ll simply repeat all of this again in the next one, and so on. So for those of us who watched e.g. Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook, to now see those identical patterns of behaviors on display (by “tankies” or whoever), is more than a little disconcerting.

    And tbf, the likes of lemmy.ml is nothing at all on the scale of Lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. So if you want to remain federated with some or all of those, then power to you and I am very glad that you can enjoy your time on the Fediverse.

    However, not all of us are in the same boat and some of us would rather only see the half of the conversation that we don’t have to mentally parse and decode what it means before we throw it away. Without having to block hundreds of individual trolls I mean. Ofc we are prevented from doing so since user level defederation does not exist, and the only instance I’ve ever even so much as heard of that blocks all of the big 3 is Lemmy.cafe. So rather than wait for Sublinks/PieFed/Mbin to improve, perhaps I should move there?

    Maybe this is all intellectual laziness? I dunno, I truly don’t, but also I don’t see the harm in allowing people to have their preferences met?

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      some of us would rather only see the half of the conversation

      Well I guess the only thing I could possibly say to that woul–

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• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yep. To a certain extent I don’t care what your political views are, but if you’re always trolling and putting them up in my face. And have no integrity rules wise, I’m blocking.

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• femtech@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Blocked the instance along with hexbear. So I think it would be good to drain the good communities from them if you can.

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• Tarogar@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Blocked instance… They can figure their stuff out without me because I don’t want anything to do with them.

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• Fox@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lemmy.ml is the only instance block I have, after seeing too many illiberal shit takes, bad faith arguments and socialist astroturf posts.

  My instance quickly defederated from HexBear and LemmyGrad which is just fine by me, it’s helpful most of the bad eggs are concentrated in just a few places.

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  • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you might if I ask how you accomplished that - by using some app? Or did you just mean the standard Lemmy instance block, which blocks only communities hosted there but none of the users especially their comments everywhere across the Fediverse?

    PieFed allows custom user instance blocks, of whatever instance you choose, and I think Mbin at least used to (although I also saw a bug report saying that it doesn't work right now). And Tesseract on dubvee.org and lemmy.cafe have specifically defederated from lemmy.ml, but I was curious what other methods would work as well.

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    • Fox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Correct, just the communities. I still see .ml user posts and comments in other communities, which is tolerable. Plenty of them are fine. For the that aren’t, the heckler’s veto sometimes keeps the dumber narratives at bay.

      I appreciate that instance labels carry some meaning of how a user is likely to act.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The path to inner peace.

  Image

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  • Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why midwest.social?

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Usual tankie nonsense masquerading as progressivism.

      Call out their bullshit, get a ban.

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    • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Similar “moderation” practices as done on lemmy.ml, but unlike the latter, the users of Midwest.social themselves seem mostly well-behaved rather than toxic edgelords. Note that not all of the Lemmy.ml users are that way, and I might even believe that most are not, but conversely whenever I see the most batshit insane comments, it is always from one of the big 3: lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, and to a lesser but still extremely notable degree, Lemmy.ml.

      lemmy.world/post/18414833

      discuss.online/post/11696960

      etc.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve blocked the instance entirely. I never see posts from their communities, though I am surprised to still see users from it. I thought it would block everything.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pasting from another comment in this thread:

    The only way I know how to ditch the users, besides blocking each one individually, would be to make a new account on either dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe where all 3 of the big 3 are completely defederated. Think of those instances as troll-blockers, working hard to keep the Fediverse pleasant to converse in:-).

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      lol

      Dub ee is even worse than .ml for the censorship stuff. The admin banned a ton of people that never even knew of its existence until we all got spammed by his automod bot duplicating the instance wide ban to each and every individual community.

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• selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well, I’m here and I don’t know what you all are talking about. And this is sincere, truly don’t understand what’s the issue, could you point me to some of these controversial situations/discussions/measures?

  I have a feeling that, if you ask for any specific instance, you’ll get people complaining and blocking that instance for their own reasons. So, I’d let my users decide whether they block or not a user or a whole instance. For example, I don’t like some of the communities in lemmy.world and I complain about it because it just feels the same as being in reddit, but having access to a different point of view is very valuable to me, so I don’t block them.

  I also have to add that I use lemmy with the voting system completely disabled. I hate the voting system because it shapes people’s opinions to fit in some specific communities. This is why I think blocking instances should only be used as a last resort against things like blatant spam, boycotting, CP, hate speech and the likes.

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    .ml is kind of Hexbear or Lemmygrad-lite. They’ll ban you for criticising places like North Korea. I got it once for saying Dengism isn’t socialist.

    I still use it, because it’s mostly normal, and “we’re secretly the bad guys” isn’t a very dangerous conspiracy theory.

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  • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    lemmy.ml/post/21552785?scrollToComments=true

    As mentioned in the OP: lemmy.world/post/16211417

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    • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, I see. Well, I had a discussion in that thread too and it felt off at some point. I replied about a similar crime backed by the CIA and some people accused me of whataboutism, while the other guy assumed I was denying the Tiananmen Square massacre. That was not the case.

      I used to participate in a subreddit where a permanent set of people, including moderators, would downvote you to oblivion as soon as they read a divergent opinion, though, the subreddit wasn’t about a specific ideology. It wasn’t about arguments, it was systemic. They would eventually ban you if you insisted on your points of view. Both things are shitty, in my opinion, and while one is more permanent than the other, the banning felt at least more straightforward to me.

      What I find excessive is the instance ban.

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• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I refrain from sharing links to it and prefer others. This is because it’s very easy to be banned

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