One big reason people still play on consoles to this day is because they own a physical copy of their games and can play on their consoles even offline.
Sometimes
The $700 PS5 Pro doesn’t come with a disc drive
Submitted 2 months ago by realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/10/24240906/sony-ps5-pro-disc-drive-separate-price
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4vgj0e@lemmy.world 2 months ago
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I couldn’t play Baldur’s Gate 3, a single-player game, when my internet went out. That pissed me right off.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Couch co-op is also a big thing that I want but fewer and fewer games offer it.
kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 months ago
At $700 you could build a pretty decent PC that would last a lot longer, and build a steam library that you’ll have 20 years from now.
dan@upvote.au 2 months ago
build a steam library that you’ll have 20 years from now
How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years? Use GOG instead, since the DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)
woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years?
Use GOG instead, since the DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)
How do you know Windows will keep compatibility in 20 years? Valve money partially goes into Proton/WINE development and an evolution of that will absolutely be around in 20 years, just WINE was around 20 years ago already. CD Project doesn’t put any GOG/Cyberpunk money into breaking the Windows monopoly. (Also plenty of titles on Steam come without DRM because DRM is optional.)
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It’s kinda rich to plug Steam, where you also don’t own your games.
lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 months ago
Well for Steam at least the library is independent of the hardware
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
And something that can run PS3, PS2 and PS1 games!
I’m sorely disappointed that none of that fancy AI-powered Sony upscaling can be put to use to any of those old games.
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Replace the 3060 with an equally-priced AMD card and you’ll actually get something decent for your money. Nvidia is horrible at these “lower” price points.
tal@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I’ve had the same monitor, keyboard and mouse for an easy 10;
I guess it depends on frequency of use, but I’ve never had a mouse last ten years.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 2 months ago
I think the steam deck is genuinely the only console worth buying these days.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
I REALLY want Sony to release a handheld that can run PS1, PS2 and PS3 games 🥺
abfarid@startrek.website 2 months ago
Vita can Run 99% of PS1 games “natively” and has a bunch of PS2 ports (some through PSP). Not PS3 though.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I wouldn’t trust Sony to not fuck that up somehow like everything they do.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Unfortunately, physical media for gaming died when always-online DRM was normalized. It doesn’t matter if you have a game on a disc when you have to phone home every time to use it. The corporation may still block your access.
One more step in ensuring no one owns anything. Lease or rent are your options.
IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 2 months ago
I think Sony never wanted a physical media PS5 console. The design made it seem like an after thought. Like a growth on the side of sleek lines.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
they weren’t completely wrong now. on thier own financials, its mentioned that only 30% of game sales are physical. physical buyers are now the minority.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I still jerk off manually.
MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m one of those people. I just can’t be arsed to get up off the couch and put a game. After work and kids I’m beat and just want to pick something and start playing.
ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 2 months ago
799€ here, 920€ with a disc drive. That is stupidly insane for a console. We’re almost breaking the 1000€ barrier for an “upgrade”, not even the new generation.
I’d bet my money Sony is just testing the grounds to see if they can set PS6 price in a few years over the 1k barrier.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
There’s little incentive to not go with a gaming PC instead, or to not just wait for the PS6 since I’m sure it will be cheaper
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s too expensive. $500 is already too much for these things.
But capitalism’s gotta capitalism.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
$700 is actually probably a fair price for a PS5. You can’t really build an equivalent PC for less than that. $900 to $1,200 would probably be close to how much manufacturing the PS5 Pro costs.
But PSN subsidizes these costs, which is why these systems can be this “affordable”.
abfarid@startrek.website 2 months ago
I doubt it costs that much. You’re looking at it from buying PC components perspective. But they are mass producing identical boards with components that are 4+ years old by now, except the GPU. The cost of production is probably around the same as it was for non-Pro when it was released.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sony has been on a roll with the boneheaded products nobody wants.
smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
700 is insane. I guess I’ll wait for the PC release of Wolverine instead of playing it on the base PS5 then. Sony really shit the bed this cycle.
kromem@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They got off to a great start with the PS5, but as their lead grew over their only real direct competitor, they became a good example of the problems with monopolies all over again.
This is straight up back to PS3 launch all over again, as if they learned nothing.
Right on the tail end of a horribly mismanaged PSVR 2 launch.
We still barely have any current gen only games, and a $700 price point is insane for such a small library to actually make use of it.
SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol, e-waste
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Total waste of sand.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
IDK, something like this will probably be MOD. There’ll be minimal waste here.
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So I can’t play half the games I have, and the other half doesn’t need the extra console power. Yay. WOrtH iT.
MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hey Sony, I love you but you trolling?
PunchingWood@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It was pretty much a given that this would happen, since there were already options with and without disc drives.
And obviously sooner or later gaming will probably move to an entirely online service like streaming.
It’s just a matter of time until the internet and worldwide coverage is ready for it. I always imagined that in a distant future we’d basically only buy a controller, that connects to an app that’ll let you stream. And every game will be in a subscription service like a Netflix.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Nah, they won’t do streaming cuz it’s too expensive.
IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 2 months ago
This is yet another nail in the coffin of physical media. Or, in other words games you actually own instead of long term lease.
sanpo@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
It’s not like physical media makes any difference anyway these days.
Actual disk often gets just a glorified installer, and even if it includes the entire game you’re likely to have to activate it online anyway.
The “own your games” ship has sailed long ago, unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Going to have to plug GOG here as these are both things they offer. I try to buy games there instead of Steam when I can, purely for this reason.
PunchingWood@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The difference is the price of buying discs vs. buying from a digital store that has no competitors.
I’ve bought almost exclusively second-hand discs for my PS5, because they’re like half the price for the exact same content.
Sadly it’ll probably be just a matter of time before those will be phased out as well, one way or another.
dmention7@lemm.ee 2 months ago
For $700 they could at least throw in a 4k Blu-ray player.
Then again, I ponied up extra for the disc version of the original ps5 for that exact reason, only to find out the media player software is a giant piece of garbage that was clearly given no effort. So I can’t say I’m too surprised.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This in my opinion is one of the valid use cases of a blockchain/NFTs: they provide provable ownership of digital goods. This means that if implemented, in the future we could actually own games music movies ebooks etc. The only remaining step would be a decentralized torrent-like system that allows the users to download the licensed content that they own via their nft.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I remember thinking it was bs when half life 2 required a steam account and now everyone loves it.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m glad some companies are going full media and the younger Gen is buying physical media. It’s creating a counter culture that smart companies are using to their advantage.
Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is it possible for modern games to fit on a disk?
I think it would be an interesting change if brand new games had a hard limit on file size so they can fit on and play from an actual disk.
criticon@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It does if you rent
I’ve been using gamefly for a while, I can’t rent digital only games
Sat@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Maybe but look what happened to Stellar Blade
dan@upvote.au 2 months ago
Newer games rarely have the entire game on the disc. Usually there’s mandatory patches that must be downloaded to play it.
This means you don’t really own the game, since if Sony take down the downloads for the game, you won’t actually be able to play it any more.
4vgj0e@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Death by a thousand cuts
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
IDK. Between the price tag and lack of the disc drive IDK how many people are gonna buy this thing. It’s probably just for people who HAVE to have the highest graphics, to keep them from getting a gaming PC until the PS6 is ready for them.