The lost technology of the ancients is most glorious.
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jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I have earbuds that don’t need to be charged and use a cable for easy connectivity and sound quality.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Both have their pros and cons. I miss my Westone 1 IEMs that I had back in college. My buddy’s dog chewed them up. They were comfortable and super light, had great sound quality, a cord that wasn’t obnoxious. Not having a cord is great though too especially when I’m working. Multipoint connection is great too. I can be listening to stuff on my phone with it in my pocket, no cable getting in the way, and when I get a call on Teams, my Pixel Buds just switch over to the computer.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
it kills me that urbanears stopped making the Plattan Bluetooth model, it was basically the perfect design for on-ear headphones
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Note the 3.5mm jack, it could do both wireless and wired, and you could even use the jack to output music! like come on how is this not the standard design? i have seen the light and now every time i look at other headphones they just seem obviously subpar
moonburster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My earbuds are connected to a bt receiver that functions as a (not great, but okay) dac via usb too. Pro is that I can use the receiver with all my headphones, con is that it looks like an iPod shuffle gen 3
PagPag@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s neat
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I really dont get cable simping here on Lemmy. It’s awful UX and yall can’t hear the sound difference anyway lmao
And009@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
Depends on the earphone. But majority wouldn’t care.
TWS is hands down more intuitive.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
TIL “cable simping”
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You know what’s easier than a cable? No cable.
I’ll give you sound quality, but the whole reason that wireless earbuds took off is the hassle of wires.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And also no latency. Even expensive Bluetooth headphones and earbuds have crap latency. The systems that don’t are either proprietary and not widely supported (e.g. aptX) or expensive 'phones-and-dongle arrangements that must always travel in a pair and still don’t compete on latency with a pair of dollar store earbuds.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If you’re listening to podcasts or music, latency doesn’t really matter.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Unless you’re using them for gaming or some other interactive medium, latency doesn’t really matter though. For music, latency is irrelevant and for video, your device will take care of syncing the audio and video playback so it’s a non issue. Audio quality is an entirely different matter of course.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do, and simply put up with it. Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs. I have never used a media player on any platform that automatically figured out audio latency. Maybe the iDevices do if you pair them with Airpods, I don’t know; I don’t own anything Apple and I never will.
It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing. Plus, latency is just annoying in any setting.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I can find over 600 aptX capable headphones as well as over 850 phones, also any laptop I ever had supported it (Linux though, so probably not always “official” lol).
Low latency is a thing, you can get this as low as ~30-50ms either through aptX LL / Adaptive, whatever the manufacturer apps do or by manually meddling with the settings for SBC. Will get rather unstable though since you effectively get rid of the buffer. Really depends on your usecase what you prefer. Personally I love having ANC headphones that support bluetooth but also got a headphone jack in cases where I sit in trains, buses or planes for hours and want to play some games or listen to music with a DAC.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Almost always Bluetooth for me.
Might plug into the car to get higher quality audio. Will use a cable with a mic at home, but even then I might use AirPods for listening and only use the cable to speak into.
It stands to reason there can’t be that many audiophiles who could tell the difference between Bluetooth and aux while listening to their little Spotify playlists, but oh boy-
So many more people can tell when you’re speaking over spanking-new $200 AirPods versus the old dinky pair of stock EarPods from the bottom of the junk drawer. Cable reins supreme, no competition. (and with the best dictation software, simply whispering into the hardwired mic is sufficient for ~95(+)% accuracy)
superkret@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The reason wireless earbuds took off is that phones with headphone jacks stopped getting made.
Consumers didn’t prefer wireless earbuds. They preferred thinner and more water-resistant phones.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
other way round, manufacturers realized people don’t particularly care about aux jacks and so they went ahead and got rid of them so they could get said benefits.
hikaru755@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I personally switched to wireless back when my phone still had a headphone jack. It’s just the better overall experience for me, and I suspect that I’m not alone in that. I’m going to continue arguing for manufacturers to keep including a headphone jack, but it’s not because I prefer wired headphones personally.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lol, people downvoting you like they weren’t manipulated into spending 10x as much for a product that can’t be repaired, all in the name of profit.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
you do realize cheap phones exist, right? and second hand ones, and phone repair shops exist.
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
You really think that’s a dunk? “Wireless” just means you plug it in when not in use. There’s nothing hard about plugging in a 3.5mm audio jack. I’ve never been sufficiently convinced to actually use wireless headphones. They seem like more of a hassle for a worse listing experience.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
what universe do you live in? wireless is obviously more convenient since you just put the buds in your ears and click play, with wires you have to also put in the wire and you have a physical cable that can get caught on things or get in the way.
just get a pair of cheapo wireless earbuds and genuinely try using them, you’ll most likely realize that it is actually way more convenient and that actually you just wanted to be a reverse hipster.
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 6 days ago
My experience comes from previous attempts at using wireless headphones. It’s just easier for me to plug in and not have to do literally anything else for a premium listing experience.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Wireless means you plug it in occasionally, maybe once a week.
If you don’t value the convenience of wireless headphones, that’s great for you. For a lot of people, the cable is a real pain in the ass. It gets tangled up when it’s off. It gets caught up on things when it’s on, etc.
i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I definitely have to give it to wireless sets, they are really convenient. I’m clumsy and it’s nice not having to be aware of the cable. (The sudden yank out of my ears… Aaaaaaargh.)
But I’m also forgetful (I don’t always remember to charge it…) and I have a low tolerance for connection problems so I do prefer wired in some scenarios.
I don’t get some people’s obsession with hating on wireless earbuds and headsets.
jecxjo@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
i switched when phones dropped the jack but just recently went USB to 3.5mm. Sadly both are crap.
Honestly I’m going to look into a media device again.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Mm & also how about respecting the electronics and (maybe a little bit obsessive-compulsively) wrapping the entire cord up and zipping it into a case… every single time
(Skill or rather personal policy issue, ya, that one might be on me)
But don’t even have to put my head against the phone for a quick call when a single earbud is right in my pocket ready to be slipped out and stuck back in, blind ‘n’ fast
Juliee@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Omg you people are some literal dinosaurus rex. New bad
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Horrid quality and batteries are rarely replaceable. Pointless.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I feel like I’d forget to charge them. Or drop them in a public place and not want to put them in my ears because I’m a germaphobe. I know someone who dropped theirs in a toilet.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s a risk. But, there’s also a risk of getting your wired earbuds cord caught on something. I’ve had that happen and it yanked the phone off the table and sent it crashing to the floor. I’ve also had the buds get yanked out of my ears multiple times.
If I lived somewhere where winters were mild, I might still use wired headphones. When you only have to worry about a t-shirt or something managing the cord isn’t too bad. But, when you have to manage a hat, scarf, coat, etc. there are just too many things to get in the way of the cord.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We’d love to, but manufacturers keep trying to force them down our throats. And when we express a different prererence or use case a bunch of trolls feel the need to pop out of the woodwork and tell is that no, we’re actually wrong and our use cases don’t actually exist.
How about you all don’t worry about what headphones other people wre using?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
THATS WHAT I SAID IN THE PARENT POST LOLLLLLLLLLL11??!01
hikaru755@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought that to but turned out to be a non-issue. Since most earbuds come in a case that holds multiple full charges for the earbuds themselves, and the case begins to complain about low battery early enough, even if I forget the first one or two times I notice the low battery state I’ve so far never run into a situation where I wanted to use them as had no charge left
hOrni@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I finally went wireless a week ago. I realized their advantage when the cable on my headphones broke for a millionth time.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t remember what did it for me, I switched a while ago. But, I do clearly remember one time when I had the kind of moulded earphones that go really deep in your ear, and I caught the cable on something, and they got yanked out of my ears. That was pretty painful.
0ops@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is what did it for me a decade ago. So many wasted wired earbuds, I was literally buying a new set every 3 or 4 months because all it took was one bad yank to destroy them. I’d wear the cable under my shirt and tuck the slack into my pocket, but the fucker still got caught on… well pretty much everything it seemed like. The countertop, chairs, my hand, somebody else, vegetation, my bike. Sometimes their own momentum was enough to yank them out of my ears when I was skating or something. I still use wired at my PC and with my roku, but if I’m not sitting still then wired are simply too fragile and annoying for me to use. As annoying as a spotty Bluetooth connection can be, a failing wired connection is way worse.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You know what’s easier than no cable? Not losing your ear buds
Haven’t been able to use ear buds outside of the house ever since they got rid of the jack
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’ve never lost one in at least a decade of using them. But, I don’t use the kind that just balance on the edge of your ear.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
LPT: pull up on your ear while inserting earbuds, this will let them squeeze further into the ear canal which has been the difference between them refusing to stay in the ear, and being rock solid in there. Better seal against outside noises as well.
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Robbity@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
No, what did it was removing headphone jacks and selling only crappy non-repairable headphones.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I guess if I listened to crappy music I wouldn’t care about the sound quality.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Ooh, BUUURN! BUUUUUUUUUURN!!!
peteyestee@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Blakdragon@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
For me personally, I got wireless earbuds because they removed all the damn phone jacks and I didn’t have a choice.