Comment on Despite tech-savvy reputation, Gen Z falls behind in keyboard typing skills

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• jballs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeah I don’t know why the article mentions Gen Z’s “tech-savvy reputation”. Being able to operate a cell phone doesn’t make you tech savvy.

  Gen X and Millennials grew up using command line and troubleshooting computer problems before the Internet. Their tech skills are way higher than Gen Z.

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  • cRazi_man@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I never needed to use command line, but I did hone NY typing skills on MIRC and ICQ.

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    • Pistcow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      *Mavis Beacon.

      Anyone responsible for the family IT services had to learn cmd.

      Also, the article reminds me of this

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      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m thankful my father was so insistent on teaching me to type properly. At the time I was super annoyed at him putting a cardboard cutout over the keyboard so I couldn’t see keys. But touch typing has been a boon ever since, I doubt dad was prepping me for typing quickly mid-game but it sure is nice!

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    • pandapoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Pretty sure booting into DOS before loading Windows and playing the Oregon Trail on the Apple IIe both count as command line experience.

      I also think that as smug as a lot people feel about this, it doesn’t seem far off to think that physical keyboard typing skills could be substituted for efficiency with newer technologies, or refined versions of existing tech. At least in terms of performing most office job functions.

      I’m not saying it’ll be more efficient, or better, just that it wouldn’t be a surprising next step given the trends being discussed here.

      If that happens, I have no doubt that smugness will turn into self-righteous indignation and a stubborn refusal to abandon the tactile keyboard for older generations, myself included.

      I just hope that if that transition occurs during my lifetime, it’s an either-or situation, and not a replacement of the keyboard.

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      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Key chording has always been faster than conventional single letter typing, and that tech has been around for a long time now in the form of stenography machines. Yet most people learn on a conventional keyboard because it’s simpler and more ubiquitous. This is true even now that chording has been adapted to programming and similar tasks.

        You have to remember we live in a world where most people don’t even know how to write properly, even those who do it as part of their job like doctors. If you draw letters by moving your fingers, you’re doing it wrong by the way. The actual proper technique involves using your shoulder, elbow, and wrist to do most of the work. We’ve known about this for centuries, and these techniques were designed with dip pens, quils, brush, and fountain pens in mind. The cheap ballpoint pen along with rather bad instructions from teachers has led to proper handwriting technique being forgotten, and causes problems like RSI in people who handwrite regularly.

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      • Kadaj21@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Anyone else play Montezuma’s Revenge or that DOS King Kong game throwing explosive bananas after inputting stuff for height, angle, force?

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      • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        AI powered keyboard let’s go. Honestly the amount of typing I’ve been able to cut out by just clicking the ai suggested replies in Teams instead of actually typing something out to respond to my coworkers is pretty high.

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    • Kalysta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I learned mine playing a MUD

      You typed fast or you died.

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      • whostosay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        For me it was WoW back when it was more social and you had to communicate via text mid fights and whatnot

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    • willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What about cl_gibcount 1000 in half life.

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  • piccolo@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Thats largely because 90s software was jank, and the internet exposed all kinds of more jank and viruses… but now, most things just work. Also, most people arent really using desktops, their using phones or tablets or game consoles, where the OS is very much locked down.

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    • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The average user experience has abstracted away understanding how things actually work.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Software is still jank. Well maybe except zfs and sqlite, but the rest is jank. Also seL4.

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This is why I feel disconnected from most of my gen z people

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  • noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Being able to operate a cell phone doesn’t make you tech savvy

    it does, to a boomer

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• BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yep. And phone typing is the ‘hunt and peck’ method of keyboard typing. Which is unfortunate because it’s ingraining the slowest way to type onto a whole generation.

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  • halfapage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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    • Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Tried using swipe typing before and honestly I’m just faster typing normally.

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      • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yeah, autocorrect is bad enough without the extra emphasis on it with swipe.

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      • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It’s vastly better when you need to type with one hand

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    • mwguy@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It works well for casual conversation. But if you’re trying to have a technical conversation it will fail on uncommon or custom words or phrases.

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    • don@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Can confirm, it’s worth the effort.

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah, I’m a swiper myself and I can’t imagine anyone being able to swipe without knowing the keyboard layout like one would for typing.

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    • snooggums@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      A swiping motion and muscle memory for tapping are two different things. It took a while to get fast with my thumbs even though I type fairly fast on a keyboard.

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    There’s a mode where you swipe your finger over each letter in order and it auto completes the word. Not sure how often younger people use it (though I wasn’t aware you could do that until I saw someone younger doing it).

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Sounds like predictive T9 but slower

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      • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        No it’s actually way faster. You can swipe whole words in less than a second. It’s like writing with pen and paper but each letter is actually a whole word.

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      • xpinchx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        T9 was supreme.

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• mwguy@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  They also stopped teaching typing in schools. My younger family members never had an computer class or a typing class.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Anything beyond ~2002 became worse than the predecessor in IT related tasks.

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• atmur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    One difference is that the touch-screen typists rely heavily on autocorrect. I don’t think they’re actually as accurate as you think - their spelling and typo errors are being covered up more than yours on the desktop computer.

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