Submitted 10 months ago by Interesting_news@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://ua-stena.info/en/mcdonalds-installs-phone-cleaning-devices/
McDonald’s installs phone cleaning devices.
The systems operate on the basis of ultraviolet technology.
These systems, powered by ultraviolet technology, destroy up to 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands.
That’s really cool. I already foresee Americans intentionally breaking them and finding ways for people to get their phones stuck in there to be assholes and for internet likes.
Some Australian cities installed usb charging ports on their bus fleets. They were filled with chewing gum within a week
Qi chargers are the way to go imo. Make it out of some nice hard plastic and much more difficult to vandalize.
So many bathrooms in Japan don't even have hand soap or toilet paper. I can't possibly imagine this taking off.
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I didn’t have this issue at all when I visited. Although maybe you’re talking more rural than touristy places…
No, I lived in Japan and have visited all over. It's more an issue in men's bathrooms than in women's to not have soap, based on my conversations. Even women's bathrooms, it's common to not have toilet paper, and people carry around tissues. This is more of a city thing than a rural thing. In the cities, people pass out tissue packets with advertisements in them and people carry them around and use them in the restrooms.
Japan is doing it No way it works here
What? Am I not understanding you correctly?
No. The article is about Japan and I commented about Japan.
I’ll “clean” your device! Just let me handle it for a few seconds…have you installed my app yet? It gives me…you, roo…hmmm cool powers and access to the cleaning system interface…yeah that’s right, I need access to the cleaning interface.
That’s weird, there’s a place 10 minutes away from me (W Europe) that has them installed in the bathrooms.
It’s just a slot in which you put your phone. You wait for it to beep and you take it out again. Ideally while you’re washing your hands.
Because it’s in Japan, I’d probably use it. If this was in New York, I probably wouldn’t be in that bathroom in the first place.
is the remaining 0.01% of bacteria becoming superbugs?
It says UV so probably not. Otherwise we’d already be fucked from sunlight and Instagram models tanning.
that makes sense, how is it different with UV?
How well is that actually going to work? UVC sterilization usually takes much longer than 30 seconds.
WOTA claims 99.9% sterilization via UV-C. Does Japan have false advertising laws? I genuinely don’t see how it can be that fast, but like, it would be dumb to make difficult-to-believe claims if you could be sued for it.
Anyway, mostly unrelated, I used one of these there and I didn’t care if it was that effective. Wasn’t gonna be holding my phone for that span, so any sterilization is nice.
Just because you don’t see how it can be that fast doesn’t mean you should immediately jump to false advertising. Think of it like cooking chicken to a safe temperature, you can do it sous vide at a lower temperature and still get safe chicken it’ll just take 8 hours or you can throw it in an incinerator at a thousand degrees and have it sterilized in a few seconds.
Sterilized is more than just the amount of time it’s also the amount of exposure, an extremely strong UV light needs significantly less time than a weaker one
It’s dose dependent not just time dependent. LED uv-c emitters can pump a huge dose onto a surface from a short distance such as this device does.
This recent study showed viral inactivation using such shorter time frames.
I’ve seen these being marketed as the big new thing for ages. I think they had some on Shark Tank. Covid probably helped them along.
No thanks, I’d rather bring my own knowing what people would stick in there and there’s the risk of it stealing your phone if it malfunctions
and there’s the risk of it stealing your phone if it malfunctions
You wouldn’t just go to the staff and ask them to open it up for you? lol.
That depends on how the phone cleaning things are designed
Not sticking my phone in there.
Who are you that is so wise in the ways of not sticking things into anonymous slots?
It’s cool, I want to know how it works! But I don’t trust it. All it takes is an accidental moment of suction to destroy a microphone or moisture seal. Or maybe someone accidentally dropped a bobby pin or something in there that could damage the charging port? That’s all it would take to basically ruin my phone…
I also don’t trust the employees to care or know how to safely remove a phone if a motor died or the building lost power… But I realize I’m paranoid! 🤷♂️
It’s a bit narrow with lots of moving parts. Maybe a clamshell setup would be easier and more usable with different phone sizes / accessories?
Does McDonalds have a device for eating my ass? They should work on that next.
A bidet that utilizes heated water will likely give a somewhat similar sensation to a wet tongue. Whether or not any McDonald’s out there have those installed I don’t know
Sounds like a no then. Either they eat my ass or not
Seems like a solution in search of a problem.
For many, if not most Japanese people, bacteria existing is a problem in need of a solution. Even when COVID restrictions lifted, people were more than happy to keep their masks on for months. I’m not living there anymore, but most shops had hand sanitizers installed at their entrance, and I know a lot of people don’t want those to ever go away.
Ooooooh iPhone 4s long time no see
JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So im no tech expert but a couple issues i see off the bat:
Eggyhead@kbin.social 10 months ago
For every country I’ve lived in outside of Japan, I think these would be valid concerns.
timetraveller@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Was going to say, it seems as though people in Japan, just use tech differently.
d3Xt3r@lemmy.world 10 months ago
IT guy here, the NFC thing isn’t really a concern (NFC doesn’t work that way) or for that matter, any other wireless technology, as it’ll need to authenticate with your phone somehow. If you can somehow simply scan data from your phone without any form of authentication, that would be a massive security hole - and something that would be patched by the vendors real quick. Also, if something like that were possible then the TSA/FBI wouldn’t have any issues pulling data from locked phones - see the case of FBI vs Apple for instance.
The other issues you’ve mentioned are valid though. Heck my Galaxy Fold won’t even fit in that slot.
JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I just thought that i can use contactless pay with my phone if its unlocked just by tapping the eftpos machine but i suppose people wouldnt be putting their phones in there unlocked generally.