I was having a hard time imagining which company this could be. Not that I’m a fan of Verizon or Comcast, but I think they know what side their bread is buttered on. Which one wouldn’t?
Then I remembered Starlink exists.
U.S. intelligence officials determined the Chinese spy balloon used a U.S. internet provider to communicate
Submitted 10 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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paultimate14@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Don’t think they were colluding with the provider. They probably just put a burner sim card into a 4g module and sent data over a VPN to China whenever it had signal.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It could have even been one of those multi SIM router things that has network redundancy.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The blurb says primarily for navigation.
So it was using the starlink signals like gps signal and therefore they needed to correlate with the carrier to get a rough time sync.
I wonder what timing data is freely available on the starlink acquisition signal.
Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
It’s a satellite provider. Cell networks don’t work at that altitude. Starlink was my first guess too but, after some more thought, it could be Hughesnet. They probably have wider coverage.
Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Probably Hughesnet or Viasat.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That just sounds like efficient design if you ask me.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I guess now we know why it stopped to hover over Starbucks for so long.
schmidtster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I thought the official announcement from the pentagon was it never sent any data?
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You’re correct, it didn’t send any data, jts sent data.
schmidtster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Ah yes of course, my apologies for the misunderstanding. I hate when a butt plug is the voice of reason, thank you for your service though.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Right, because they figured out which provider was using and had them cut it off…
schmidtster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s not even similar to what the announcement was.
moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
But the free market will regulate. /s
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wait, you mean US corporations will take money to do questionable things? Surprised Pikachu face.
Maybe the US government shouldn’t have set the precedent that that was EXPECTED AND ENCOURAGED
deafboy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll have a good laugh if it turns out the baloon was not chinese after all, it has just contained some iot device with previously unknown call home function to collect diagnostic data.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Ok, now tell us what the hell you shot down way up north during that time.
Lazhward@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Didn’t that turn out to be a weather balloon launched by an amateur meteorology club?
nrezcm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No that ended up being swamp gas from a weather balloon trapped in a thermal pocket which reflected light from Venus. Pretty common mistake.
wagoner@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Please don’t interrupt a conspiracy theory
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
The one over the Great Lakes may have been an advertisement from a car dealership.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well…how many nationwide internet suppliers could there be?
balancedchaos@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Three.
Thanks, deregulation.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Actually there is only one. The rest buy their services and say they are nationwide but are regional centric. Long lines weren’t really deregulated either.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We should let them do this provided they only use Comcast and Sprint.
spikederailed@lemmy.world 10 months ago
frontier
mlg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can’t wait for the final report in 10 years that confirms it was a weather balloon and some dumbass CO was too excited and wanted to see an AIM-9x get used on a static 10mph moving target.
Pentagon really running out of fun ideas to waste tax dollars.
Could have at least used the 20mm guns included in the F22 instead of $500,000
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Could have at least used the *20mm guns
No, you really can’t.
The Canadians tried with an F-18. They shot the absolute shit out of a balloon with its Vulcan, but because they aren’t under pressure like your typical party balloon, it didn’t really do much.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 10 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Officials familiar with assessment said it found that the connection allowed the balloon to send burst transmissions, or high-bandwidth collections of data over short periods of time.
Such a court order would have allowed U.S. intelligence agencies to conduct electronic surveillance on the balloon as it flew over the U.S and as it sent and received messages to and from China, the officials said, including communication sent via the American internet service provider.
“As we had made it clear before, the airship, used for meteorological research, unintentionally drifted into U.S. because of the westerlies and its limited self-steering capability,” Liu said in a statement to NBC News.
The previously unreported U.S. effort to monitor the balloon’s communications could be one reason Biden administration officials have insisted that they got more intelligence out of the device than it got as it flew over the U.S.
In an exclusive interview with NBC News this month, VanHerck explained that he worked together with the U.S. Strategic Command, which oversees U.S. nuclear weapons, to reduce the release of emergency action messages to ensure the Chinese balloon could not collect them.
“Protecting EAM and nuclear command and control communications is of critical importance to the United States,” a senior defense official told NBC News.
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ugjka@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Someone tell China how to install Google earth app
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Wow really they used infustructure in the United States to communicate with something in The United States instead of putting a super expensive and moving satellite dish on the thing???
Zoidberg@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The PCC must be feeling all smart about their spy balloon design choices. Just wait until they need to talk to Comcast customer support…
bajabound@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Was Dishy mounted on top?
foggy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is what you get for not castrating them 25 years ago.
Make internet a utility already, fuck.
Cypher@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I really thought you were going somewhere else before I got to the second sentence.
ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Yeah that was a short but wild ride lol
Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Who? The intelligence people, the Chinese spies or the internet people?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Castrations for everybody! You get a castration and you get a castration!
yeather@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
All 3
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This was probably the biggest intelligence coup of this century. Our intelligence agencies have extremely capable hacking capabilities. I’m sure they not only know the provider, they know the exact building down to the individual IP addresses of the PCs that data was transmitted to. If they get that, they will be able to trace all of the other activities that originated from that Chinese agency.
On top of that when the US was done it still shot it down and now has the hardware to analyze.