I’ve been considering paying for a European provider, mounting their service with rclone
, and thus being transparent to most anything I host.
How do y’all backup your data?
Submitted 1 year ago by onlinepersona@programming.dev to selfhosted@lemmy.world
I’ve been considering paying for a European provider, mounting their service with rclone
, and thus being transparent to most anything I host.
How do y’all backup your data?
Raid is backup right?
of course /s
It protects against drive failure. That is the threat I am most worried about, so it’s fine for me.
drive failure
Perhaps unintended but very much relevant singular. Unless you’re doing RAID 6 or the like, a simultaneous failure of two drives still means data loss. It’s also worth noting that drives of the same model and batch tend to fail after similar amounts of time.
Thst’s the thing. I don’t.
I wrote my own thing. I didn’t understand how the standard options worked so I gave up.
Two hard drives of the same size, one on site and one off site.
Where do you keep your off-site one? Like a friend or family member’s house?
I keep one in a bank deposit box. It costs like $10/year, fireproof, climate controlled, and exactly the right size for a 3.5" disk. Rotate every couple of months, because it is like 10-15 minute process to get into the vault.
At home and at the shop where I work.
Either works, if you dont trust them encryption is always an option
Tape is the best medium for archiving data.
I really want to use tape for backups, but holy expensive. Those tape drives are thousands of dollars.
Damn, the last time I thought about this (20 years ago) I was able to buy a tape drive for a PC for like … I wanna say $250-300?? I forget the format, it was very very common though and tapes were dirt cheap, maybe $10-12 a pop. Worked great, if you were willing to sit around and swap tapes out as needed.
I bought an incredibly overkill tape system a few years ago and then the power supply exploded in it and I never bothered to replace it. Still, definitely worth it
Manually plug in a few disks every once in a while and copy the important stuff. Disks are offline for the most part.
I keep important files on my NAS, and use Borgbackup with Borgmagic for backups. I’ve got a storage VPS with HostHatch that’s $10/month for 10TB space (was a special Black Friday deal a few years ago).
Make sure you don’t just have one backup copy. If you discover that a file was corrupted three weeks ago, you should be able to restore the file from a three week old backup. rsync and rclone will only give you a single backup.
Also make sure that randomware or an attacker can’t mess up your backup. This means it should NOT be mounted as a file system on the client, and ideally the backup system has some way of allowing new backups while disallowing deleting old ones from the client side. Borg’s “append only” mode is perfect for this. Even if an attacker were to get onto your client system and try to delete the backups, Borg’s append-only mode just marks them as deleted until you run a compact
on the server side, so you can easily recover.
I do an automated nightly backup via restic to Backblaze B2. Every month, I manually run a script to copy the latest backup from B2 to two local HDDs that I keep offline.
It’s pretty low-maintenance and gives a high degree of resilience:
restic has been very solid, includes encryption out of the box, and I like the simplicity of it. Easily automated with cron etc. Backblaze B2 is one of the cheapest cloud storage providers I could find, an alternative might be Wasabi if you have >1TB of data.
How much are you backing up? Admittedly backblaze looks cheap but at $6 Tb leaves me with $84 pcm or just over $1000 per year.
I’m seriously considering a rpi3 with a couple of external disk in an outbuilding instead of cloud
Oh, I think we’re talking different orders of magnitude here. I’m in the <1TB range, probably around 100GB. At that size, the cost is negligible.
Isn’t backblaze is like $6 per TB 🤔🤔🤔
So $216 a year?
Did you know it’s also possible to setup backups on the drive connect, also a good thing to turn off the networking beforehead 😶🌫️
Also, i’m using ntfy.sh for notifications And if you’re using raid, you can setup it with on a drive failure
Local to synology. Synology to AWS with synology’s backup app. It costs me pennies per day.
Same, although aws is my plan b. For plan a I have an older Synology that is a full backup target.
On site? I put enterprise drives in my nas. Always have and have never had a drive fail. If one does, raid is good until the replacement arrives.
what’s the pricing like? looking at my own use case a full backup to b2 would cost me almost 100 bucks a month. Given the tendency of my data storage it seems cheaper to me to just buy more hdds and store them in a safe at my bank
full backup to b2 would cost me almost 100 bucks a month if I understand the pricing correctly
At that point, a Hetzner storage box or auction server would likely end up cheaper
Wait, Proxmox Backup Server runs on ARM?
The only type of data I care about is photos and video I’ve taken. Everything else is replaceable.
My phone —> immich —> backblaze b2, and some Google drive.
Linux isos I can always redownload.
rclone to dropbox and opendrive for things I care about like photo backups and RAW backups, and an encrypted rclone volume to both for things that need to be backed up, but also kept secure, such as scans of my tax returns, mortgage paperwork, etc. I maintain this script for the actual rclone automation via cron
Backblaze. Automated with Velero in kubernetes.
I have a cheap 2 bay synology NAS that acts solely as a backup server for my main NAS in an offsite location as well as a USB drive locally.
Backups run every night with duplicacy
I sync all my files across 4 different computers in my house (rsync and Nextcloud) and then backups on OneDrive and Google Drive.
4 different computers? Wow…
The 4 different computers are my vr desktop, my laptop, my home server, and my wife’s computer 🤪
Device sync to nextcloud -> rsync data & db onto NAS -> nightly backup to rsync.net and quarterly offsite/offline HDD swaps.
I also copy Zoneminder recordings, configs, some server logs, and my main machine’s ~/ onto the NAS.
The offsite HDD is just a bog standard USB 4TB drive with one big LUKS2 volume on it.
It’s all relatively simple. It’s easy to complicate your backups to the point where you rely on Veeam checkpointing your ESXI disks and replicating incrementals to another device that puts them all back together… but it’s much better to have a system that’s simple and just works.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters | More Letters |
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ESXi | VMWare virtual machine hypervisor |
NAS | Network-Attached Storage |
SSD | Solid State Drive mass storage |
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Proxmox backs up to pbs and pbs is synced to B2 with rclone.
Other stuff is restic to b2.
I have a Synology NAS that holds all my important data. Then it does nightly backups to Synology C2.
Synology NAS where all computers get backed up to locally, NAS backs most of its data encrypted to Google drive every night, occasionally I back the NAS up to an external 8tb hard-drive.
Various HDD full data backups maintained with FreeFileSync, important files backup on ProtonDrive. Multi-device autosync with Syncthing (phones, tablet, pcs)
I do exactly the same. I do not have a lot of data I feel a need to backup. I have a nightly job that zips and then encrypts my data, then rclones it to off site storage.
Encrypted files sent to Google Cloud Storage (bucket) for long-term archival. Comes out pretty cheap like that.
Everything to Crashplan.
Critical data also goes to Tarsnap.
Storj bucket synced with rclone
. It’s also great for using as a “cloud NAS.”
Docker cp piped into restic, uploading to wasabi. Works well, I recently recovered from a hard drive failure and everything just worked.
My work is using Google drive for Sync/back up so that is covered by them.
Personal data is automatically synched (syncthing) between three computers in different rooms in my home + some of the files is copied to my phone and tablet. I consider adding also an online server for further redundancy
Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Prayer
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
You don’t have to worry about the backups. It the data recovery that will require divine intervention.
TheYear2525@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jesus is my
copilotraid parity.