New Raspberry Pi 5 comes with PCIe 2.0 x1 interface and power button

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https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/#09

Broadcom BCM2712 2.4GHz quad-core 64-bit Arm Cortex-A76 CPU, with cryptography extensions, 512KB per-core L2 caches and a 2MB shared L3 cache
VideoCore VII GPU, supporting OpenGL ES 3.1, Vulkan 1.2
Dual 4Kp60 HDMI® display output with HDR support 4Kp60 HEVC decoder
LPDDR4X-4267 SDRAM (4GB and 8GB SKUs available at launch)
Dual-band 802.11ac Wi-Fi®
Bluetooth 5.0 / Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE)
microSD card slot, with support for high-speed SDR104 mode
2 × USB 3.0 ports, supporting simultaneous 5Gbps operation
2 × USB 2.0 ports
Gigabit Ethernet, with PoE+ support (requires separate PoE+ HAT)
2 × 4-lane MIPI camera/display transceivers
PCIe 2.0 x1 interface for fast peripherals (requires separate M.2 HAT or other adapter)
5V/5A DC power via USB-C, with Power Delivery support
Raspberry Pi standard 40-pin header
Real-time clock (RTC), powered from external battery
Power button

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orclev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’ve got to wonder, am I the only one that wishes these things came with PoE support out of the box without needing an addon? I can’t even find a competitor that supports PoE without needing an extra PoE HAT.

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- towerful@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Tbh, POE isn’t a feature most people need. And it’s quite expensive, takes up a lot of room, and generates quite a bit of heat.
  You can get inline POE extractors that spit out 5v usb/jack or 12 jack. I use them quite a lot, and they are much cheaper than PoE hats
  
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  - orclev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yeah I just hate all the extra clutter the extractor adds. It’s really nice to just run some cat 6 to a Pi and call it a day. If I could spend an extra $50 to get a Pi or Pi-like device that came with PoE built in I would in a heartbeat.
    
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- anlumo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  PoE runs on 48V, it’s nontrivial to get that down to levels usable by a microprocessor.
  
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  - orclev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s not free, but it’s not really that hard either. You can even get fancy and use isolated power for some extra safety.
    
    I’d like to see some more specialized versions of these boards. For instance one that trades the MIPI ports (which I have literally never found a use for) for PoE or some other feature that’s more useful in a networking centric use case. In many cases I’d even be willing to give up a USB port for that.
    
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  - InvertedParallax@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s really not, you have a buck reg on board already, it’s just the peripherals that need 5v and for a lot of that you can use linear regs.
    
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- Cobrachicken@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Olimex had a ARM board with POE, if I remember correctly… though I cannot find it atm. Here’s an ESP based instead: https://www.olimex.com/Products/IoT/ESP32/ESP32-POE/open-source-hardware
  
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hydrashok@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Looking forward to finding one in a store right around the time the RPi 6 is released.

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- LrdThndr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  rpilocator.com.
  
  Haven’t had trouble finding one in quite some time.
  
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- atocci@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I didn't think they were that hard to find at the moment, I saw 5 or 6 CanaKits in Best Buy last week.
  
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  - spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The 4?
    
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- TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I preordered on DigiKey.
  
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332@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Man I just want to actually be able to buy a Pi 4 at non-scalper rates.

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- ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Theres a bunch available in the US/Canadathis week (all week, for the first time in a very long time). Not available everywhere, but the major Pi distributors have pretty much all had some - all the pi 4 models, too.
  
  The drought has been easing up for a while and has been nearly over in Europe for several months. It looks like it may just about be over in NA too.
  
  If you're in other countries I guess maybe it's still pretty dry.
  
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- just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Should be soon since the scalpers will be moving on to the 5’s.
  
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memphis@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Out of context, “a power button” is really funny to see advertised as a feature.

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cyph3rPunk@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Wake me up when they switch to RISC-V.

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- Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Wake me up when I can get one for MSRP.
  
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RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
No actual PCIe or M.2 connector on the board, the M.2 hat won’t be available at launch, and it appears to block the required(?) coolers from being fitted.

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- somedaysoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Why anyone bothers with Pi Foundation boards any longer is beyond me, there are so many better SBCs. The rockpro64 launched a full year before the Rpi4, back in 2018, and had PCIe, SATA cards, NIC cards, and a sweet NAS case to go with it. It could boot from USB drives right away, unlike the Rpi4, it didn’t have power supply issues unlike the Rpi4, and it had eMMC support unlike the Rpi4, among many other benefits.
  
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  - Bonehead@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the Pine64 I bought from their Kickstarter. The thing lasted 4 months before it stopped booting. I have no faith in any subsequent products.
    
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- PeachMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Not required. And it might block the OFFICIAL cooling case, but it’s a Raspberry Pi. There will be a hundred different custom cooling options soon.
  
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  - Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The problem is that the M.2 thing still is a HAT, and basically sits about 10mm above the main board, leaving no room for proper active or passive cooling - or at least making it very complicated to achieve. Putting the M.2 slot at the bottom of the main board would have been a good solution that would have avoided a lot of problems.
    
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  - anlumo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I still can’t get over the tower cooler available for the Pi 4.
    
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Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I think I’ve personally hit the point where PIs are like phones, there’s nothing new that I actually need but a handful of things that looks handy. Never thought I’d be excited about (effectively) a bios battery.

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ijeff@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Hopefully they can address the stock issues but I’m not holding my breath. Would’ve also liked to see full-sized HDMI.

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- spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Was the 4 difficult to obtain when it was released? Cause the vendor I’m looking at (digi-key) claims to have about 5,000 in stock right now.
  
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  - clothes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The 4 has been impossible to find until, like, four months ago. I’ve been subscribed to six stock notification services for three years and only got my hands on a Pi 4 this year (and it’s not even the model I wanted!). The pandemic was nuts, but things seem to have stabilised.
    
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NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Too bad you'll never get one because we're only making 20 of them!

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- spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They’re commuting to servicing them til 2035 so I’m sure there will be a time when you can grab one.
  
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  - Jerkface@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    In 2034
    
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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Flawless victory! 🙌

This thing will make a blazing fast encrypted ZFS NAS with the 2 full-speed USB 3 ports and crypto extensions.

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- anlumo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t think Linux supports ZFS on ARM. It’s a bad idea without ECC RAM anyways.
  
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  - avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It does and I used to briefly run a ZFS pool on a Pi 4 in 2019. I only abandoned it due to a nasty deadlock bug that I think got resolved sometime ago. Non-ECC RAM shouldn’t be significantly worse than using say MDRAID or Btrfs with non-ECC RAM.
    
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runswithjedi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Looks interesting. What’s the best place to preorder from? I never know which reseller to pick.

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HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Just in time when I was reading about Home Assistant. Either I can get a couple of these to play with, or I just find an older Pi 5 for cheaper (and easier availability).

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- acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  FYI, my Pi4 has more than enough cpu and memory to run Home Assistant with a couple hundred devices.
  
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  - HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Sounds good, maybe I can start with the Pi 4 then!
    
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- emli42@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Home Assistant OS won’t support this board immediately, though I’d expect a beta to arrive sooner rather than later.
  
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