Children are not economically viable.
Haha yes society is great
Submitted 18 hours ago by s@piefed.world to [deleted]
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WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 13 hours ago
ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You may be half joking, but I’ve discussed this many times with my partner. Society, by today’s definition, do not reward at all having kids. However, for a society to keep going you **need ** children, so wtf is supposed to happen? No children, society just grows old at at some point you have a massive decline in the younger brackets? And then is just old folks yelling at clouds? Also, anothet detail, the mono parental lifestyle we have nowadays is actually quite recent. And I do think is very much impossible to have the expected amount of children on such system
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 hours ago
Every society values status and wealth. This time we’ve taken that to the extreme, to the exclusion of everything else. It’s going to be one of the failed experiments in history.
Ancient Greece even had those episodes where the rich managed to get farmers deep in debt. A bunch of them just left. Another bunch became serfs. The end result was productivity tanking and food security becoming problematic. Cue debt relief, changing laws, … The rich will always fuck it up for everybody and themselves given enough time, sometimes they learn, and they do it all again a century later.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It’s okay. Elon said AI and his robots will mean we’ll all be rich on UBI soon, so he wants everyone to have more kids.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
But without children, who will fight your forever wars and be trafficked by the Oligarchs who want to create 24/7 mass surveillance with live facial recognition tracking?
toofpic@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I would be so fucking rich without a family! I can live on ramen and gaming (I am 41, and this never changed), sobI would have like 80% of disposable income up for saving
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
there’s a lot of negative feedback loops in nature (it sounds negative but is actually a positive thing). it means that when you have a tendency going one way, then that creates a counter-pressure which makes the tendency go the other way.
so if people have less children today, that somehow will make it more attractive for future generations to have more children. in the end, it will oscillate (go up and down) until it stabilizes around a stable value. so no worries, it’s gonna be fine.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You don’t need money. Shh. Have babies.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 hours ago
The rich have bought out trailer parks. And the factories where they make trailers. So even going that route is being exploited.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Oh you can’t find a partner even willing to get married and reproduce right now?
They just keep repeating the same nonsense on loop like:
“Are you literally insane?”
“Have you even noticed the present reality we’re living in?”
“I could be charged with a crime just for having complications during pregnancy.”
“They hooked a braindead woman in Georgia up to life support last year like a human incubator. She had tried to go to the ER the day before because of a painful headache. Instead of helping her they gave her 2 aspirin and sent her home where she suffered a brain aneurysm.”
“They literally just sent her away when she sought their help, but after declaring her braindead they decided to actually admit her to the hospital.”
“They made her family wait to remove her from life support until she had given birth to a premature baby. The baby was born with multiple birth defects he will struggle with for the rest of his life.”
“Of course they aren’t even giving him healthcare or helping to pay his medical bills. They kept his mother alive like some kind of science experiment from the Handmaid’s Tale, and demanded he be born simply to refuse to help him survive.”
“Because it turns out the world is literally run by completely sadistic pedophiles. They don’t even need an Epstein anymore because now they’re legally allowed to kidnap and traffick children!”
“They’re splitting families apart and holding them indefinitely in concentration camps. There’s been multiple documented cases of sexual assault by guards, and we’re just letting it happen. Now they’re buying up warehouses across the country to convert into more camps!”
“How can you even think about something like that?! They’re dragging us into an endless WWIII just to distract from the pedophiles and help corporations increase their profits! What the fuck do you think they’re planning to do with all these kids they’re trying to force us to give birth to?”
Psssh, sounds like typical unhinged feminism. Destroying the American dream.
the_grass_trainer@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Thank God I’ve never run into whomever you have. I just hear:
“It’ll happen when it’s time.”
“You’ve got your entire life ahead of you still.”
“Don’t rush into it; enjoy your single years.”
Ugh… Time is running out each day, I’m half way to my old years, and i HAVE enjoyed being single. Now I’m ready to move forward.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 17 hours ago
The ruling class want church to be our third space but every church my family dragged me to as a teen everyone was either 30+ years older than me or single digit ages.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Places like community halls, union halls etc used to fill this need.
lovely_reader@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Yup but they aren’t profitable so we can’t have them
slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Is a “third space” really an issue for people? Affordability really solves everything.
null@lemmy.org 14 hours ago
Down payment on a house or pay the hospital for one child birth. Choose.
toofpic@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Not living in the US solves the hospital problem
lovely_reader@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Unfortunately that’s not an option for most people living in the US
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
How about neither?
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
this is the way. renting + investing in stocks is more profitable
hayvan@piefed.world 18 hours ago
No wage, bus spend.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Yeah, but like… Then I would have kids, and even apart from the whole “giving birth” thing, or how expensive they are, having kids sounds absolutely awful.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Fine! I’ll marry and try to reprpduce.
evol@lemmy.today 13 hours ago
Is there a time besides maybe the 2010s where people had more disposable income ? What 3rd spaces did we have decades ago that we do not now ?
We have surrendered the future to religious extremists which is pretty depressing
berg@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Is there a time besides maybe the 2010s where people had more disposable income ?
Yeah, bud.
It was called 1940-2007.
flamingleg@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
in the 1990s we would gather in giant rooms full of people smoking cigarettes, and we would put small metal discs into machines so we could yell at people for sucking at video games in person and it was a kind of church for many
evol@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
We have arcades still ?
Atropos@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Marry? Sure! Reproduce? Nah, we’ll stick to hiking, video games, and anarchist gardening, thanks.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
How do you grow an anarchist?
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Very hard to cultivate, they only want to grow wild.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
I think they meant Antichrist.