They were going to get £55 from me but now they’re getting nothing!
Oh yeah I have an assassins creed I never finished.
Crimson Desert Includes Denuvo DRM, To Nobody’s Delight
Submitted 23 hours ago by ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com to games@lemmy.world
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redsand@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 21 hours ago
This is what pushes me to piracy. I had no intention of pirating Crimson Desert, because I think it looks good and I’d support the devs by buying it. But I’m not interested in buying a license to play a handicapped version of the game. I’ll just play something else until they remove Denuvo.
Also, fuck the shills across gaming sites celebrating the addition of Denuvo because “pirates are just mad they can’t get it free on day one”. People who pay get fucked over more than pirates do. We pay more for a worse version of the game than pirates eventually get for free.
Denuvo is a deal breaker.
Noja@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
Buy the game, play for 10 minutes, leave a negative review citing the performance issues and then refund it.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 4 hours ago
That’s a good idea! Either that, or I buy a key from a shady website so the devs don’t get any money
Rhoeri@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
So you blame the developer and not the pirates for this?
This is the equivalent of trumpers crying about “illegal” immigrants and not the people that hire them.
Go ahead and boycott the game over this. I’m sure the amount of money they’re making from all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay for a change will more than make up for it.
monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
The pirates didn’t add a piece of software that doesn’t help sales, slows down computers, and eventually breaks the game. They remove it.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 13 hours ago
In a world were plenty of games without denuvo are doing just fine? Yeah I blame the publisher/dev.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Go back to the Steam forums where you belong, bootlicker.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 hours ago
Show me the data that proves piracy actually causes a tangible loss for the developer for DRM to actually be needed.
rtxn@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Denuvo adds an obscene amount of checks to the executable, which manifests as an increased CPU load (compare Assassin’s Creed Origins with and without it) and poorer performance. It also restricts the game’s availability to legitimate paying customers if there’s any issue with the “is this a new installation” detector.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
The developers have a lot of choices in their approach to piracy and they chose a company that makes performance killing restraints that runs concurrent to the software causing poor performance. The game could be fun and run well but it is saddled by the poor business choices of the developer.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 21 hours ago
Yes I do because they actively chose to make their game shittier for people who purchase legitimate copies. You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they’re going to pay for it now?
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
The game is also unoptimized to shit. It needs at least a 7700XT to run at 1440p and 60 fps.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Because it also needs to run Denuvo.
cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Jason Denuuuvoo
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
I’ll wait and get it on PS5 if the reviews are good. Gonna be pretty busy playing Marvel Heroes Omega for a while, which launches the day after.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Denuvo DRM - Not even once
Arcadeep@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Well, I was interested in playing it
ms_lane@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Well modding is out of the question then, so the game is a hard drop from me.
Jumi@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Would you look at that, another game I won’t be playing
eli@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Beyond stupid. I get the game for free because I bought a AMD GPU. So I can’t exactly choose a different game…
I hope performance is fine, otherwise this is going to get neg review from me.
madsen@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
If you got it as a key you can maybe trade it? I’m sure there are still places around where you can trade stuff like that.
Way back in 2013 or so I got a Watch_Dogs key with my GeForce GTX 770. I traded the key for a couple of older but (to me) more interesting games.
kwarg@mander.xyz 20 hours ago
Noob here. Can someone explain to me what is this Denuvo stuff i have to complain about?
tuckerm@feddit.online 20 hours ago
A DRM system that makes the game run slower.
My very limited understanding of it is that the game is divided up into pieces, and each piece is then encrypted into a large, unreadable piece. These pieces are then decrypted back into their normal, readable state while you’re playing the game, which is a fairly CPU-intensive process.
It’s also part of the reason why game updates are so big. The developer can’t just send a small update to you, they have to re-encrypt the entire piece and send that to you.
And it’s also why, about a year after a game stops getting updates, you suddenly have to download one huge update that is the size of the entire game, even though this “update” contains no actual changes. It’s because the developer has stopped paying the Denuvo license for that game, so they’re now just replacing the encrypted pieces with the normal, unencrypted pieces.
kwarg@mander.xyz 11 hours ago
thank you guys. Besides the updates size being so large, which is indeed annoying, my biggest concern is its effect on performance. The game looks very ambitious and computationally intensive by itself, so i am curious about how will it run when adding this extra layer of computation. I guess, as always, it is a good idea to take my time and see the reviews before jumping into buying it.
Katana314@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
One thing that makes it contentious is that how much it affects performance can depend on how well it’s integrated. Some studios check every frame, to Denuvo’s disgust, and it’s a #1 issue on release. Other studios manage it a bit smarter; as you say, it’ll always affect performance at least a little. But I’ll be honest, usually my experience is fine.
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
So like 99% of games. 🤷♂️
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Just pulling numbers out of your ass, or what?
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
I don’t think 0.9% of games have Denuvo, let alone 99%!
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
PS5 it is then!
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 hours ago
Oh, once again a huge AAA looking game I never heard of