At a glance, the passwords the LLMs created looked secure, much like those that a password generator might spit out. But that’s exactly where the problems arose: Although the AI-generated passwords appeared to be complex and safe to use for securing online accounts, they were actually quite predictable upon closer inspection.
All three LLMs exhibited clearly identifiable patterns in how they created these passwords. These patterns included repeated character strings, predictable password structure, frequent reuse of similar characters, clear biases toward certain numbers and letters, and even duplicate passwords in some cases. Although the AI-generated passwords looked random, they really weren’t. This could easily create a false sense of security if you were to use these predictable passwords for your online accounts.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why does everything have to be LLM, like why cant things sometimes just be algorithmically generated like my AI-free password manager does?
I wonder if there’s AI-powered password managers on the market now lol. If so and if customers, I would mirror Zuck’s snide “thuh dumb fucks” setiment when people trusted him
Naich@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I remember the days before hardware random number generators, when pseudo random number generators caused fuck ups by not actually being random. Now people are re-inventing the stupid way of doing it with AI.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It blows my mind hackers still found ways in with just that one fuckup
BrainBow65@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s worse than just using a new tool though. By definition LLMs use the statistically most likely option (with minor variation for flavor). People are literally asking a statistics bot what password can I use that is the most likely?
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was gonna say that. They gonna give you a recycled pattern
grue@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
That’s a good point: it’s not just that LLMs fail to give you an optimal password, it’s that they’re inherently designed to give you a pessimal one.
artyom@piefed.social 23 hours ago
There’s AI-powered everything now for no reason other than because when they slap those two letters on it, their stocks go up.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Stox go brrrrr
Madrigal@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But…but Magic Box™
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I always say I’m not interested in asking an LLM to add 2 + 2 for me. Of course my managers are always pushing us to use LLMs and coworkers keep suggesting we replace efficient, testable, and consistent processes with AI. If you’re going to use it at least think of scenarios that are hard to code for and it would take you at least 10 min to solve.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
While “routing” of prompts between specialist models and traditional APIs does offer more efficient and reliable outputs, it also A. requires more elbow grease than one massive generalist model, and B. doesn’t help you avoid paying API licensing fees by obfuscating their outputs into the blackbox weights of your proprietary model
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
It just seems like a password manager is an infinitely better tool. Like to the point i severely judge and question the sense of someone who seeks to reinvent the wheel for something so crucial