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Switch emulator Eden is surviving life after Nintendo kicked it off GitHub

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨throws_lemy@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.androidauthority.com/eden-switch-emulator-dmca-3647342/

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Despite that, they say that GitHub didn’t even respond to their counterclaims, and just shut the whole thing down the minute Nintendo asked.

    You are a fly on the wall of one of the biggest tech companies in the world. They have no interest in going to court for you just so you can keep your emulator on their site.

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    • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not what I think of when I hear the phrase fly on the wall.

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Got Eden on my Steam Deck, runs so good. Nintendo could learn a thing or two tbh.

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    • kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Emulators are legal

      With the caveat that an emulator cannot copy any copyrighted code to use in the emulation. They try to add as much proprietary code and encryption that it’s nearly impossible to emulate without breaking the law.

      It’s scummy, but people have and will continue to find ways around it. But even the smallest of copyright infringements will result in Nintendo’s wrath.

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      • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which is why so many emulators require you to somehow acquire the console’s actual BIOS binary yourself (manually dumping it from your own hardware, of course, and by no other means at all) and dropping it into a file folder for the emulator to use.

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      • Ghoelian@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The problem is, even if you write all the code yourself and require users to dump their own BIOSes and shit, when you get sued by Nintendo, you need the money to be able to hire people to defend yourself. You actually have to prove and most likely convince a judge you’re right.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      tbf, the Steam Deck’s hardware blows the Switch away so of course they play better

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That doesn’t mean much when it comes to emulation tbh. If the emulator is shit, power won’t help.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not sure about good. It somehow runs games a little worse than Yuzu did.

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      • TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        tbf, eden is a new development and pretty young compared to yuzu and how mature it was. at least afaik

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It has no trouble playing Super Mario Wonder at full speed and 1080p, that’s good enough in my books.

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  • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s about time people move the fuck off github

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    • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eden wasn’t really on GitHub, except for binary distribution (presumably because of the cost of doing that was $0).

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    • Ravenheart@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What are some alternatives?

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      • ZEEEPh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        People have pointed to Codeberg, but I don’t know how good it is

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Github is owned by a multinational megacorp and has been for 8 years, and given how they’ve severely botched windows 11 updates with impunity they’re clearly only beholden to themself. It should come as no great shock at all that they only “care” what other multinational megacorps want.

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    • FuCensorship@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right?! Why is there this “narrative” that if something is banned from GitHub it’s like the end for that software…

      Who the hell is GitHub? Fuck em.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Android authority needs to shut the fuck up

    This is basically “oh Nintendo! Look over here, your DMCA didn’t actually do anything”

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    NEVER, ever, ever host your projects in the site of an American company.

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    • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok, but like honestly if GitHub kicks off my project then I can just move to another hosting platform. I would be mildly pissed that I lost the stars oh my repo. And then I would be minority inconvenienced that I have to find a new place to run my CI pipeline. I feel like there isn’t that much vendor locking with GitHub. Nothing they do is that unique.

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  • LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Link for those interested.

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    • LSNLDN@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also Link for those interested

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      • GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Here’s the lint for anyone who is looking for it

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      • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My boy!

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      • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yet another Link

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    • Allah@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      so how to play games on it? does it come pre loaded in it?

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      • Ravenheart@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You have to find game ROMS.

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    • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ive used it on linux a bit

      Runs just fine

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      • Allah@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        how do you load games in it?

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  • commander@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re hosting their own Forgejo. Forgejo is easy to self host. There’s even easier simpler stuff like Gitbucket. If you want something with a ton of features, Gitlab self host but that takes way more resources. Personally I have Gitbucket on my NAS for my basic stuff but am thinking about giving Forgejo self hosted a try. It looks better than gitbucket

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I keep wanting to check things like this out, and then I remember there’s not even any Switch games I want to play. I tried the open world Pokémon game when that came out years ago, purely just to see what they did (it was boring as fuck, as pretty much everyone agree). The only other thing is maybe TotK, but there’s better things (in my opinion) that I still need to play. Shadow of the Erdtree, for example, is something I still need to get around to.

    If anyone actually does think there are Switch games worth playing, in your opinion, what are they? I’m curious. I have to admit I avoid most advertising and don’t follow Nintendo stuff, so there could be things I’m not aware of.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom have an atmosphere like a Studio Ghibli movie. If that doesn’t appeal to you than I guess you won’t like those games.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It looks fine. It’s more the gameplay that doesn’t seem appealing. It seems almost frictionless. There’s too many games that do something similar that are more appealing to me. I’ve been meaning to get into Outward (I own it, but I haven’t put the time into it to get far), but now Outward 2 is on the horizon. It’s open world adventure, but it actually asks the player to think and put some effort into it.

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      • lemonySplit@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t understand how Nintendo is charging over $100/game and can’t bother to hire voice actors for this shit. I tried ToTK and it felt like a shitty asset flip to me that was way overpriced. Sold my switch and went back to just PC and emulation

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    • nightlily@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Xenoblade Chronicles trilogy if you like JRPGs.

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    • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I really enjoyed Zelda BOTW. I beat it. Then I did their weird glitch that requires you to beat it twice more without dying once, but you get to keep this crazy Light Bow thing forever. I spend like a week accomplishing that glitch. Then I spend like 6 months hoping on it every once in a while, just to ride around the map and shoot things with that bow. Eventually I lost my game save, and now I don’t play it anymore… I would, if I didn’t have to spend another week on a glitch to get my bow back. Now I just look at it, remembering the good times.

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      • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        While BOTW is a masterpiece in my opinion, it‘s not a console exclusive. You don‘t even need a Switch or Switch emulator to play it. Many people even recommend emulating the WiiU version specifically.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Here’s a suggestion you never see, but I loved it: Astral Chain

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    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think the Bayonetta games are really fun and closer to the old school God of War trilogy than the new God of War games. Its a fun hack and slash that you can button mash your way through, but is a lot more fun if at the very least you learn how to dodge offset. www.youtube.com/watch?v=subkGpouSeo

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    • eatsnutellawivaspoon@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The metroid prime 1 remake is fantastic, metroid dread is pretty good too. Nintendo has a unique style with their first party games and while that’s a good thing for the market as a whole, you’re right that if it’s not your cup of tea there’s really not much on the switch for you.

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    • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I feel the same but what it comes down to for me is I hate Nintendo IPs and for the most part it is the Nintendo games that bring people to their consoles.

      Pretty much everything else is available elsewhere. Or at least that is the impression I get. Does the console have any noteworthy exclusives that aren’t Nintendo characters.

      Pokemon would be the main thing that appealed for me too but I liked red, blue, stadium and that was about it. I didnt play much after that and what I did didnt stick so I think I’d have similar feelings to you towards the new ones.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Astral Chain was great, and probably runs better on emulator than original hardware

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    • melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve been considering getting a copy of TLOZ Echoes of Wisdom for my Steam Deck.

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    • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Pretty much all the games made by Nintendo themselves. Mario Odyssey is great too.

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  • ntn888@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    eagerly awaiting federation for forgejo, Fediverse ftw

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  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A DMCA takedown, huh? Sounds a lot like what they did with Youtube-dl a few years ago. And ultimately lost. Both youtube-dl and yt-dlp are still (again) on github.

    Lesson learned: don’t use github.

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  • shiroininja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All of them still work. I’m running Yuzu as my daily still.

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    • defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eden is a more advanced fork of Yuzu with better compatibility. No reason to keep using Yuzu IMO.

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      • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Have you a link? Dl theynsupport swirch 2? Inonly wantnto try Mario Kart

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      • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Eden runs games slower than Yuzu, though. I don’t get the same framerate in, say, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Eden like I had with Yuzu.

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  • AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyone have a reliable link for the bios?

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  • Yttra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It sure would be cool if people could shut the fuck up about emulators so they’d have fewer eyes on them. Especially (but not limited to) AA, Polygon, and particularly Kotaku.

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  • null@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Was this one of the emulators charging people money?

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    • Yttra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was Yuzu, specifically their early access Patreon builds if I remember correctly.

      Totally optional, but also heavily promoted for being able to run a leaked copy of TotK before it was out.

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