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LG joins Sony and TCL in abandoning 8K TV market

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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fne8w2ah@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.techspot.com/news/111153-lg-ends-8k-tv-production-content-demand-never.html

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  • Zoldyck@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    8k is such a waste. Most content people watch isn’t even 4k

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    • thehatfox@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For a lot of people most of their content isn’t even 1080p. Plenty of people watching DVDs and many TV channels only broadcast in SD.

      Display technology has long outpaced content delivery.

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      • khannie@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, surprisingly DVD is still heavily outselling 4K bluray. Seems weird to my but I guess the players are ubiquitous.

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I still watch most streaming like YouTube and twitch on 720p because I really don’t see nor care about the difference to 1080p.

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      and a lot of movies aren’t even sharper in 4k. Since for a long time movies used a 2k intermediary format for post production, even if the movie was shot with a 4k camera.

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    • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not on desktop use. Which is a market segment that is under served.

      Would love to replace my 4x 1440p monitor setup with a 50 inch 8k TV setup.

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      • qupada@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Presuming you mean 4x 2560x1440 there, you can have close enough to that pixel count today; one of the things Dell released at CES this year was a 52" 6144x2560 display (U5226KW).

        Since it's intended to be a monitor, you get a USB hub, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt, and other things you wouldn't get on a TV, too.

        I've been looking at it longingly, but I can't quite justify that pricetag right now.

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      • Zoldyck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        8k gaming? In this economy? That’s a niche that less than 0.1% of people can even afford

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      • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That would be nice for CAD work, but it would have to be an actual PC monitor, not a TV. 42 inch would be just about right for my desk. The only ones I’ve seen are 32 inch, which is too small to replace four monitors.

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  • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My 55” 4K OLED LG is the single greatest TV panel I’ve ever looked at. I can’t determine any individual pixels, the blacks are black. I have no issues with it in the slightest. And I see absolutely no reason why any TV of that size should need 4x more pixel density (or whatever it is).

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not sure what the manufacturers were thinking, this chart has existed for a long time, you have to be sitting pretty close or looking at a rather large screen for 8K to make sense

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      • Hazzard@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, most people aren’t within 6 feet of their TV, and most people aren’t buying 100" TVs either. Basically everyone is failing to make 8K relevant.

        A lot of companies are successfully working on larger panels (I saw something about a 165" TV recently), so 8K may have a good place in a theatre room one day, but that still leaves you a lot of problems to solve first, and is far from mainstream until all of that becomes a lot cheaper.

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Where would 1440p lie on this?

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    • madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yea same. But I fucking DESPISE the LG remote. Holy shit whoever thought about putting a fucking trackpad as the main navigation element needs to burn in hell.

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      • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, it’s not great.

        Luckily, we do 99% of our viewing through an Apple TV, and we have a soundbar, so the ATV remote covers basically everything we need.

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They might look better but they’re too fucking expensive

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  • assembly@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve never seen an 8k TV but ignorance is bliss as I’m still rocking 1080 and happy. I do see the difference at 4k when at friends houses but 1080 still looks good in my living room.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      2k is nice. 4k is pushing the limit of utility, even if you can get content for it (or play games with that resolution if gaming). 8k is beyond any need for any normal person. Maybe if you have a private movie studio you could use it, but I don’t think that’s what this is discussing.

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      • Prox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        4k’s bump in resolution is nice, but the biggest benefit is the improvement in color (HDR or Dolby Vision).

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The only market for 8k is movie theaters and megatrons. It’s absolutely not necessary to have it in your tv in your house. And it’s also insanely expensive to get the proper hardware to drive it at full resolution.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      megatrons

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Fair lol

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    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And it’s also insanely expensive to get the proper hardware to drive it at full resolution.

      The shame being 8K (as 2x4K or even more) is awesome for VR headsets, but the only things capable of really driving them are stupidly expensive (thanks NVIDIA) or dual card setups (thanks Mobo producers for making that bad, and CPU manufacturers who insist consumers only need 20-24 PCIe lanes to artificially segment the market, sigh).

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even there it’s wasted. There is just no place between pixel density, size and distance for anythng much over 4k. Except maybe video walls, where you don’t see the whole image at once.

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s what I meant re: megatrons (the giant video replay screens they have in a lot of big sports arenas)

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    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Most cinemas are 2k as well I think

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      • Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Even your 4k Netflix is mastered in 2k and uprezed. Often shot in 6k to allow for zooming in in the edit

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      • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        IMAX has a laser thing that renders in 4K, but the point still stands. 1080p is good enough for me, and cinema once a year to have fun with friends.

        The automatic HDR on my TV was a revolution because it changed the picture. 4K changes nothing.

        It’s not like we went from black-and-white to color TV, it’s like “here are way more pixels but most people don’t care because they talk and drink during the movie.” Movie nerds may care and it’s fine, but I can’t justify buying a new TV for that.

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Obviously they should have worked on upgrading our eyes before doing that /s

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    • arin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      actually true, there are people with above 20/20 vision and 8k tv would be like us going from 1080p to 4k to them. We should upgrade everyone’s vision to beyond 20/20 that would be a net benefit for everyone! Then we can all enjoy 8k tv. But honestly as a glasses wearer, the main benefit of 8k tvs are that you can go up to the tv to see way more details. It’s quite amazing and underrated, if you do the same to a same size 4k tv you can notice the pixels like a 1080p tv.

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      • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Imagine what you could see with as 16K TV.

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      • verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Imma need a citation on that one. 

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    • NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • rogsson@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The majority of ppl watching a streaming service with shitty res and crappy compression would do fine on 1080p

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  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s the next 3D.

    They try to expand in all dimensions. Bigger panels. Higher res. Higher bit depth. Increased contrast ratios. Stereoscopics. Higher refresh rates.

    Yet to find a real world use for anything over a 65" QHD at 60Hz 8bpp.

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    • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s very different. 3D TVs actually had a difference in viewing experience

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      • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It actually made it worse.

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Look, you’re happy with a mid-range setup, good for you. 

      But sticking your head in the sand pretending that there aren’t affordable features that improve the experience is Fedora wearing nerd shit.

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    • 1984@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      60Hz ewwww

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      • Prox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        8bpp ewwww too

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  • serpineslair@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m more than content with 1080p @ 60Hz

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ITT: Poors acting like there is no in-between 720@59 and 8k@240.

    Guyuyyyzzzz achktually 1080p is all you need 🙄

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  • OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I bought my 1080p LED backlit 60" Vizio panel back in early 2015 and it’s still going strong!

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    • Lawnman23@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We still have a 55” Vizio LED/LCD 1080p from 2012? Going strong as our living room tv.

      Not upgrading till the panel literally dies.

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You walk uphill both ways to work?

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    • Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m still rocking the last good plasma panel, the Panasonic VT50 from 2009, it was good enough for 3d review of the first avatar film in meeting rooms and I’m just waiting for it to die so I can upgrade.

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  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To this day, I I never owned anything higher than 1080

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I got a 1440p monitor, it’s 32 inches, and predominately use the bigger area for coding

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    • llii@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I got an 27" 4K screen at home and I wouldn’t want less pixel density for work. At work I got an 24" 1080p screen, which is OK, but not great.

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