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• Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is an ad. At least tuta marked it but that doesn’t make it way better.

  All YouTube “options” are YouTube frontends. All android “alternatives” are android - which isn’t the guides fault as there are none in my opinion. Still unserious from my point of view.

  It’s once more a catch all “guide” that doesn’t guide but simply mentions enough popular alternatives to get popularity.

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And as mentioned elsewhere, many cited alternatives are not degoogled at all.
    And I’m pretty sure some aren’t F(L)OSS, either.

    There are better curated lists out there.

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  • mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    they even listed calyx which is currently taking a long nap and is not secure

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  • acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    OC’s account exists for over a year, but this is the only participation in the fediverse ever. No other posts, zero comments… WTH?

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• Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are we doing ads now here? And are we, like, OK with it now?

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  • fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bruh chill a lot of these are FOSS

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    • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is an ad for Tuta, which server side software it, AFAIK proprietary. You cannot self-host.

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    • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah and that Tutao stuff looks pretty appealing with those nice bold letters and top placement.

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    • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A lot of these are filler. It’s an add for a specific product disguised as one of this endless lists, but they couldn’t stop themselves from being obvious

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    • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t want brands to think there’s a loophole they can exploit by half-heartedly endorsing FOSS for nefarious advertising. “Coke tastes great with the user agency of Linux” is still an ad for Coke.

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On second thought you’re absolutely right. Report created.

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• SpicyTaint@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Oh hey, an alternative to Google Translate!”

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  Oh…

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  • lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s being recommended is LibreTranslate, which isn’t the same. LibreTranslate is server software. On Android, you can use “Translate You”. We host a server at lt.dialectapp.org for use with our app.

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  • SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a single unofficial client for the mentioned software. LibreTranslate itself is fantastic.

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• Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).

  Need more calendar options such as mailbox.org.

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  • turbowafflz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, plus all the android alternatives are just different android distributions.

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    • who@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s important to recognize that Android distributions without Google’s (spyware) Play Services are vastly better for privacy than the commercial Android distributions that ship on most phones. To overlook/minimize that difference by calling them “just” different Android distributions is misleading.

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  • comradegodzilla@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mailbox is pretty good. The UI is a bit clunky, but so far I like it.

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  • baronvonj@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agree on the calendar. In particular would like to find one with map integration.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).

    You could say the same about Piped, which is just an alt front end for YouTube.

    None of these alternatives seem to tackle the networking effect of the root Google services. None of them address durability, either. Proton VPN launched in 2017, Google’s been around since 1998. Microsoft’s been around since 1975. IBM’s been around since 1911.

    If you don’t mind rebasing your entire digital profile every five or ten years, these alternatives are fine. But most people don’t want to ditch a 20 year old email address or fiddle with a brand new OS, when enshitification can be right around the corner for any of these services in another few years.

    Ffs, I’d just finished putting the shine on my PLEX server before they shit the bed.

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• favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why is Protonmail not listed, but Proton Calendar and Drive are?

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  • SanicHegehog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a Tuta ad.

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  • iglou@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because Protonmail would probably be too much of a competition to TutaMail 🙃

    I appreciate the intention of the post, but it is biased and an ad for a different product.

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    • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think you’re right

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• fireweed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Literally the first I’m hearing of Tuta.

  Are they legit?

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  • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They made this pretty sweet advertisement!

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  • jnod4@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t move accounts straight away. They ban people with no appeal in the first couple of days if account is sniffed as suspicious. Also 6 months inactivity gets you deleted

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  • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A Canadian law enforcement member accused them of being a honeypot. They’ve denied it. You’ll have to make up your own mind.

    gizmodo.com/tuta-email-denies-connection-to-intel…

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  • xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not perfect, but I chose them over proton because I was able to get my first.last name. I haven’t had any issues so far over the last few years.

    One of the biggest things is you have to use their client, no 3rd party clients like thunderbird.

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  • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re legit and I’ve been on their paid plan for a few months now. I don’t like the UX of their app. Often feels slow and laggy and outdated. Probably will switch to Proton or something else when my 1 year plan ends.

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    • PokerChips@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Proton has almost the same feel and layout.

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  • DegenerationIP@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes. No issues.

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• digdilem@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Google Tasks isn’t listed here.

  This was something I relied upon heavily. When I de-googled, I didn’t want to just move it to another cloud platform, and as a selfhoster I tried quite a few self hosted solutions. Some were very good, but also quite complicated and filled with features I didn’t want.

  So I wrote my own - Taskpony - and made it FOSS. It evolved into something that’s not a Google tasks copy, but suits my own needs better. Simple, easy, useful. I’ve really enjoyed the process of writing and sharing this.

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• ok_effect@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  DeepL translate is pretty good too.

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• MarkLu71@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am all for this, but have you ever tried Libre office? Omg this thing is like old soviet car: it’ll bring you to your destination point but at what price… I needed it mostly for small writing stuff and Word was fine for that. After Libre I tried Obsidian and it worked perfectly. It just knows what you want to do and it is smooth, predictable and everything makes sense. In LIbre I could not figure out for about 30 mins how to write OP without it changing it to Op.

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  • malle_yeno@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol love the old soviet car analogy, good lada memories but mannnn that one was a death trap

    Give AnyOffice a try, I like it cuz it just works

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  • Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    LibreOffice can be very customizable. I made it look and function very similar to Word. Also there is an online forum and faq on which users help each other.

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    • MarkLu71@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It might be, but I’d prefer if it would work predictably out of the box. Other things can do that, so it is not like I am asking for miracle. G**gle docs definitely behaves different from Word but I never had any troubles with it, and no customization ever needed. Why tf program decides what I am trying to write? Yeah, I can undo that but it is CTRL+Z ??? It’s like changing the hands position and breaking typing flow. Why not just Backspace to undo suggested change?? Ctrl+Z is to undo what USER done, not machine.

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Try CryptPad then.

    There’s also OnlyOffice, but I don’t use it because it may be from a Latvian office with ties to Russia.

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    • MarkLu71@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interface is fine. It’s just those small things that suddenly do not work as you expect. I’ll give Libre second chance sometime later if I will need to do bigger text. I invested my 30 mins already and it is too late to cut my losses /s

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  • houjou@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    please try onlyoffice. It has the exact same ui/ux as word.

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• theherk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Proton also has mail and password management.

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• RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I use Tuta for email but damn if the Tuta calendar app isn’t god awful. I don’t know if they improved it (this was like 6 months ago) but I couldn’t duplicate events and I would both get phantom notifications for old deleted events and I wouldn’t get notifications for updated events.

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  • Robert7301201@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m somewhat glad I’m not the only one getting phantom notifications. I got one last week for a deleted event. It took me a minute to figure out what was going on.

    I’ve been debating leaving Tuta and switching to mailbox.org. I’m annoyed by the lack of support for standard protocols like S/MIME and SMTP. As far as I understand with encryption, I can only send encrypted emails to other Tuta users in practice. Yes, I can send emails encrypted with a password. But it kind of defeats the point if the password has to be sent unprotected where an attacker could just use the password to unencrypt the email themselves. The lack of SMTP support also means none of my self-hosted services can send emails.

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The good: I have never seen ghost notifications or wrong notifications. The bad: it’s still ugly but I don’t mind.

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• uniquethrowagay@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How do they list Nextcloud as an alternative to Google Drive but not to the Google office apps? LibreOffice is not really a substitute, Nextcloud Office/Collabora is.

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• Abundance114@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is like switching from Walmart to 15 other stores just to buy the same stuff. It’s going to be extremely difficult to convince anyone to make this jump.

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  • desentizised@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s more like switching to 15 other specialized stores which all value one’s privacy as opposed to the one which does everything and leverages its user data for maximum profit. No offence but comments like yours serve no purpose other than to impede non-tech-savvy people’s digital empowerment.

    Many of the services depicted here aren’t really in reach for the average user and that is a problem we cannot ignore. People aren’t too stupid to realize that switching E-mail addresses requires planning, but there are many hurdles that pave the way from something like Google Photos towards Immich, imho the most significant app category up there.

    So unfortunately you are correct. Transitions like that are extremely difficult especially after the decision has been made. Which makes it all the more important that we do not paint a picture of doom and gloom when the price of inaction is de-facto surveillance.

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    • Abundance114@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No offence but comments like yours serve no purpose other than to impede non-tech-savvy people’s digital empowerment.

      I would argue that empowerment is more associated with capability rather than privacy or social justice (Whatever reason people are protesting Google); and having an all in one stop is incredibly convenient, and thus capable.

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    like switching from Walmart to 15 other stores just to buy the same stuff

    As the other commenter pointed out: you do that once. And if you do it properly, nobody will be sending anything to a gmail address you don’t use anymore.
    Then you have 15 stores all around the same parking lot, to stick with your analogy.

    And yes, it’s always a trade-off with convenience, but much less so than you make it sound.

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  • Alfredo_DisguidoAlCazzo@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I did it already many years ago. You dont have to purposely loose all your old accesses. You can secure them and abandon them.

    It happened once in 10y that I had to go back to recover 1 email from my google account but it was for something stupid that I could have avoided.

    The hard part could be WhatsApp in Europe. I abandoned it the day after it was bought by facebook

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    • Abundance114@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tell me what motivated you to go through that?

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  • PokerChips@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I keep a librewolf browser with a profile named BS that I use for logging into these services. You could do something like that to log into these services once every few months to keep it active until you’re ready to completely let go.

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• AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Currently using Vivaldi Browser (/e/ OS). Ans thoughts and/vor recommondations?

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Forgetting that immich needs a selfhosted server?
  Thus it aint really an alternative if you really want it to be applicable to the average user.

  • An immich user.

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  • elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    proton drive has a photo backup feature

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s interesting they haven’t recommended anything proton here when proton as a whole works very well in a bunch of these categories… I imagine it could be because they’re a competitor to Tuta

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for pointing that out!
    I had assumed one of the reasons the list feels so weak to me is because they didn’t want to add selfhosted alternatives.
    But since that is not the case, the list is even weaker than I thought.

    This is a strong list: github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

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• expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  newpipe? do they have non-youtube videos?

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• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Very good list, this is recommendable.

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• trd@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I own a Synology nas that i tinker a bit with self hosting stuff, but is there a open source project that makes it so easy and convenient or maybe even better? Cause Synology is cool its stilla big corp that wants to harvest my data.

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• TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Should be said that some alternative search sites, such as Ecosia, share some of your information with their upstream search providers which does include Google.

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• sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can store OTP codes in bitwarden btw

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• polysexualstick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone recommending CryptPad as an alternative to Google Docs is pretentious af to me or is only using it on PC. The mobile version of CryptPad is the most unusable clunky bullshit ever.

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• Johnmannesca@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Kreate, Musify and Harmony Music are all great alternatives to YT Music

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• whitecollarcry@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  woke up at 4am to piss… ended up switching over to graphene while I was up, so was going to be seeking just such a thing today. thank you!

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• agent_nycto@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I fughin love new pipe, it’s awesome.

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• anticapitalistpenguin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Missed a bunch of proton stuff like proton mail

  Also Mwmbl and Yacy are really good search alternatives

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• OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Filen anyone?

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• WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Uni prof here- the one that continues to plague me is Google Classroom. It may as well be the default for my department, which means if I switch to Moodle, Canvas, etc., I also have to manage all the student headaches that come with requiring them to use unfamiliar software. Blarg.

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• goodboyjojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  this is a helpful image. thanks for sharing

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• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Would add PeerTube for youtube replacements

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• NarrativeBear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone have experience with Kagi translate or LibreTranslate. How privacy respecting are they?

  Are there any alternatives such as a self-hosted local translator?

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