Submitted 12 hours ago by ezzobir@lemmy.world to youshouldknow@lemmy.world
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This is an ad. At least tuta marked it but that doesn’t make it way better.
All YouTube “options” are YouTube frontends. All android “alternatives” are android - which isn’t the guides fault as there are none in my opinion. Still unserious from my point of view.
It’s once more a catch all “guide” that doesn’t guide but simply mentions enough popular alternatives to get popularity.
And as mentioned elsewhere, many cited alternatives are not degoogled at all.
And I’m pretty sure some aren’t F(L)OSS, either.
There are better curated lists out there.
they even listed calyx which is currently taking a long nap and is not secure
Are we doing ads now here? And are we, like, OK with it now?
Bruh chill a lot of these are FOSS
What about for google maps?
What’s being recommended is LibreTranslate, which isn’t the same. LibreTranslate is server software. On Android, you can use “Translate You”. We host a server at lt.dialectapp.org for use with our app.
This is a single unofficial client for the mentioned software. LibreTranslate itself is fantastic.
This is like switching from Walmart to 15 other stores just to buy the same stuff. It’s going to be extremely difficult to convince anyone to make this jump.
I keep a librewolf browser with a profile named BS that I use for logging into these services. You could do something like that to log into these services once every few months to keep it active until you’re ready to completely let go.
Literally the first I’m hearing of Tuta.
Are they legit?
They’re legit and I’ve been on their paid plan for a few months now. I don’t like the UX of their app. Often feels slow and laggy and outdated. Probably will switch to Proton or something else when my 1 year plan ends.
Proton has almost the same feel and layout.
They made this pretty sweet advertisement!
Don’t move accounts straight away. They ban people with no appeal in the first couple of days if account is sniffed as suspicious. Also 6 months inactivity gets you deleted
It’s not perfect, but I chose them over proton because I was able to get my first.last name. I haven’t had any issues so far over the last few years.
One of the biggest things is you have to use their client, no 3rd party clients like thunderbird.
Yes. No issues.
Appreciate the post. Good perspective on this.
Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).
Need more calendar options such as mailbox.org.
Yeah, plus all the android alternatives are just different android distributions.
It’s important to recognize that Android distributions without Google’s (spyware) Play Services are vastly better for privacy than the commercial Android distributions that ship on most phones. To overlook/minimize that difference by calling them “just” different Android distributions is misleading.
Mailbox is pretty good. The UI is a bit clunky, but so far I like it.
Agree on the calendar. In particular would like to find one with map integration.
Aurora isn’t really anti-google as it’s merely a different front end for Play (that you can use anonymously).
You could say the same about Piped, which is just an alt front end for YouTube.
None of these alternatives seem to tackle the networking effect of the root Google services. None of them address durability, either. Proton VPN launched in 2017, Google’s been around since 1998. Microsoft’s been around since 1975. IBM’s been around since 1911.
If you don’t mind rebasing your entire digital profile every five or ten years, these alternatives are fine. But most people don’t want to ditch a 20 year old email address or fiddle with a brand new OS, when enshitification can be right around the corner for any of these services in another few years.
Ffs, I’d just finished putting the shine on my PLEX server before they shit the bed.
this is a helpful image. thanks for sharing
DeepL translate is pretty good too.
I use Tuta for email but damn if the Tuta calendar app isn’t god awful. I don’t know if they improved it (this was like 6 months ago) but I couldn’t duplicate events and I would both get phantom notifications for old deleted events and I wouldn’t get notifications for updated events.
I’m somewhat glad I’m not the only one getting phantom notifications. I got one last week for a deleted event. It took me a minute to figure out what was going on.
I’ve been debating leaving Tuta and switching to mailbox.org. I’m annoyed by the lack of support for standard protocols like S/MIME and SMTP. As far as I understand with encryption, I can only send encrypted emails to other Tuta users in practice. Yes, I can send emails encrypted with a password. But it kind of defeats the point if the password has to be sent unprotected where an attacker could just use the password to unencrypt the email themselves. The lack of SMTP support also means none of my self-hosted services can send emails.
The good: I have never seen ghost notifications or wrong notifications. The bad: it’s still ugly but I don’t mind.
Proton also has mail and password management.
Very good list, this is recommendable.
As much as I want peertube to succeed, I find it so cumbersome to use for finding worthwhile content to watch. It might be out there but he’ll if I can find it.
Where is DeepL?
newpipe? do they have non-youtube videos?
Not sure about NewPipe, but PipePipe also has Billibilli, peer tube, band camp. Think there was another.
Look at “Supported Service”
I probably found the answer fastee than the time required for you to write the question.
Maybe do a basic search before asking questions.
asking questions in forums is useful so users can read the answers, thank you for your service
I always thought newpipe is just a YouTube front end and never thought there are supported services to even ask in the first place. Which I would’ve never know now if he didn’t ask. How about just skipping this if we’re so pretentious, shall we?
Not responding would have required even less time and would have provided this community with equal value :)
woke up at 4am to piss… ended up switching over to graphene while I was up, so was going to be seeking just such a thing today. thank you!
Anyone have experience with Kagi translate or LibreTranslate. How privacy respecting are they?
Are there any alternatives such as a self-hosted local translator?
You can run LibreTranslate locally in a Docker/Podman container. iirc it does need a few GB of space to download the model.
I only played with it for a little bit maybe like a year ago and wasn't super impressed by its Japanese to English translations, but that could have been me just not setting it up right, or maybe its improved since then. I didn't try any other languages
Would add PeerTube for youtube replacements
Youtube’s alternatives looking really sad :( Love me some Invidious but an actual alternative would be so cool. Peertube is that on paper but missing content aside i think the UI is really holding them back it’s just not inviting at all.
Aurora app is pretty cool
What non-google chromium based browsers would you guys recommend?
Firefox (and derivatives) are slow as shit on my laptop, but ungoogled chromium is fast enough.
Non Google chromium browsers?
My friend, Google develops chromium.
It’s hard to recommend any Chromium-based browser in 2026 as Chromium no longer supports Manifest v2 extensions, breaking support for essential content blockers like uBlock Origin.
Even Brave, which has a built-in adblocker not based on extensions, is loaded with AI and Crypto bs, and as far as I’m aware, the adblocker portion of its code is closed source. This isn’t even mentioning the horrific political opinions expressed by the CEO of that company.
I keep a copy of raw ungoogled Chromium around for webUSB firmware flashing, but that’s it.
If I were you, I would try and figure out what is causing firefox-based browsers to run slowly - i.e. toggling on/off hardware acceleration in browser settings and see if that makes a difference.
sure wish mozilla would get their head out of their ass and implement webusb already
Also: ublock origin lite works excellently.
Its my laptop being from 2010 <3
Thorium is excellent, but I’m not sure if it’s still being regularly updated. Also interested in alternative chromium browser reccs, if anyone has any.
I’m sure this link is common knowledge (I just came across it) but it looks very well done with many viable alternatives (as far as enhancing privacy, insomuch as we’re able):
Fierro@piefed.social 29 minutes ago
Anyone knows of a google lens translation alternative? I use it to share memes with a friend who doesn’t know English without having too manually replace text (these days it’s pretty good with context).
Ideally I would love to self host a thing that would do that, I don’t think it would be too complicated to vibe-code some self hosted translator plugged into a image to text reader/replacer or however you’d call that… But the fact that it sounds simple to vibecode makes me think it either already exists or is way more complicated than it sounds.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 18 minutes ago
Why would you want it to be a server instead of an app just running on the phone, that can work offline?