Los Angeles aims to ban single-use printer cartridges — new ordinance will target ink and toner that can't be properly recycled

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• 14specks@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Just FYI to people that you can get remanufactured ink cartridges for a fraction of the price (around half) of OEM. They are sometimes modified to contain more ink in the same body. The company I purchased from included a prepaid bag to send used cartridges back for reuse.

  Also while I’m in PSA mode “REDUCE, REUSE, and then recycle”. Sometimes we skip over the first two steps since reducing is not marketable and reusing rarely is (although reusing printer cartridges appears to be a sustainable business).

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Cool, now ban the countdown chips that brick ink and printers that are still perfectly serviceable.

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• sidebro@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hey this was actually some good news in regards to US laws for once.

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  • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Here in the state of California, we still have the qualified in regulatory positions. Hell, I think we already reintegrated with the WHO.

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    • sidebro@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m glad to read that, keep that up! 🤗

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• Sunspear@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  TIL ordnance and ordinance are two distinct words with distinct meanings

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• PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Which in practice will simply drive up the price: like refundable deposits

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• babyfarmer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I remember years ago seeing a list of the “most expensive liquids in the world”, and black printer ink was near the top of the list.

  Other things on the list were scorpion venom, cobra venom, crab blood, insulin, things of that nature.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can blame Kodak for that. Printers used to be expensive and ink cheap but then Kodak flipped the business model and made a ton. Other printer companies were losing it so the flipped as well. You can also blame the consumers for choosing that model as well I guess

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    • tux7350@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Looking into the history of Kodak is crazy. They used a 13 month calendar and secretly kept a nuclear reactor in the basement for years.

      People forget that Kodak was a chemical company, not just photography.

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• certified_expert@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Repeat after me: plastic does not recycle. It inevitably degrades in the process.

  Regarding printers… ink tanks is the only sensible answer.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Laser is the answer. Inkjet dries and clogs the jets if not used often like back when it was invented. Hardly anyone prints like that anymore.

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only problem with laser is the desk size for color laser. If you don’t print very often, and you want color, a laser can take up space.

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  • crank0271@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Community ink tanks, with pipelines to transmit the ink from where it is mined to substations, and on and on.

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    • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The children yearn for the ink mines?

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    • BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I want a clam chowder pipe straight into the kitchen.

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    • errer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Water pipelines to the home. Gas pipelines to the home. Ink pipelines to the home. It just makes sense.

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We also need some sort of way to prevent heads from drying out so quickly.

    Printer companies know heads dry out, and they ship tanks with caps / tape for prevent dry out on retail store shelves. But once the tanks are installed, printers just leave the heads exposed to the air. Like a pen without a cap, the tanks dry out.

    I print like 5 times a year. So 90% of the time, when I’m replacing a tank, it’s because the damn head dried out.

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    • ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Laser printers don’t have this problem. Their medium is already a dry powder!

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• RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I love the idea but I don’t see how it will be enforceable. Companies routinely ignore California laws if they only exist in California.

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  • ooterness@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is just for city of Los Angeles, which is a small portion of Los Angeles county, let alone the entire state of California.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Seems like the headline and article itself are missing the main point

  printer cartridges that can’t be refilled or that don’t have a take-back program offered by the vendor.

  It may be barely mentioned but I read this are requiring a program to take back cartridges

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  • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are there requirements for these programs? Or can they make it as onerous as possible to disincentivize usage of said program? (More rhetorical than anything)

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• betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m in favor of ordnance targeting printers in general.

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• arin@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Refillable needs to be default

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• saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Wow. Just in time.

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• babyfarmer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • foenix@lemmy.radio ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I believe the cost is more to do with the electronic components. Ink cartridges are kind of like the OG disposable electronics and now we have disposable vapes.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably, but we also need to take every chance to reduce unnecessary plastic in the environment

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