Submitted 3 weeks ago by fingolas@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
While neither the regime nor SpaceX likes to reveal their cards, hackers and journalists are not deterred by this, and the laws of physics apply to everyone.
Iran is the most sanctioned country in the world with yet 50,000 Starlink terminals somehow made their way into Iran.
it turns out the not CIA run “National Endowment for Democracy” paid for them
I mean, if you want to promote division within a country, ensuring that countries citizenry has access to your propaganda is pretty important.
By now, the US lead ‘regime-change operation’ have failed - miserably. Millions of Iranians went on to the streets and protested pro government, and against the small group of artificially agitated rioters than stood for all the violence/provocations (and filmed/sent via starlink oc).
The ugly and very unpleasant truth for us privacy oriented people, is that US are using us as internet-warriors to breach firewalls setup by attacked nations. ANY nation that does not have an internet firewall and their own social media, will get their population propagandized and be hi-jacked/politically colonized by the US Plutocracy. The ‘wevil ones’ are proclaimed as Dictators/Authoritarians in violent regimes that oppress their people, but the only thing these nations do ‘wrong’, is that they won’t surrender their nations to the US/Western overlords. A fair and humble wish, I think.
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’, bc they have much more freedom than we do in the West, and it is us that are completely propagandized to believe that everyone else is ‘savages’ and needs our Oligarchs to come in and ‘put things in order’ - we are no better than the common shitters of the past that supported and allowed the wipeout of the wevil Indians, supported slavery and colonization throughout the West.
We still moronically believe the embarrassing US narrative of the ‘Wevil non-civilized regimes’ out there, and thus supports the US Plutocracy in constantly killing off/terrorizing millions of people and dozens of peaceful nations/people… Yay for us - the progressive west…
Ok buddy. Listen just because the West and the USA are kinda broken and doing fucked up shit right now, doesn’t automatically make “the other side” right or good.
The fact that you think the US is only doing fucked up shit “right now” shows that you have no understanding of US imperialism and colonialism.
Iran government bad. US government and Jewish ISIS are way worse, and not just now.
This is the biggest problem with goobers like this, they hate the US, with good reason, but don’t quite grasp that the people the US are fighting aren’t automatically the good guys.
So they end up supporting some pretty horrific regimes.
Why liberals dont apply the “lesser of two evils” shit in this case? something they preach in literally every election lmao.
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’, bc they have much more freedom than we do in the West
JFC you’re an idiot
They are free to do all the things pre-approved by their governments!
So the people killing women for partially uncovering their hair are the good guys?
The people murdering thousands of protestors are the good guys?
So the religious fundamentalists imposing doctrine at gunpoint are the good guys?
I think the people protesting for their lives and freedoms are the good guys, but that’s just me.
Nothing as good guy as machine gunning a protest. They are tankies, remember.
How is it different from all who died from lack of medical care in the US?
You are not free just because you can call your president a meanie.
Hey good guy, what is the Hannibal Directive?
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’,
Oh look, yet another Tankie who thinks the grass would be greener where the lawn describes itself as communist.
How’s that “more freedom” been going for the Uyghur? Or maybe you meant the freedom to free-fall out a window when running as a political opposition to Putin?
Or maybe you meant the freedom to free-fall out a window when running as a political opposition to Putin?
Oh, yes. My sister’s friend once went to a protest. Each time she crosses the border (has to see relatives in Russia and all that), it’s an hour long interview.
uyghur propaganda in big 26? cmon bro even CIA doesnt do that shit now
.ml
lol, no.
You morons will simp for the biggest dictatorial muderers as long as they are anti-west. Go live in Russia if you’re so gung-ho about their freedoms, and try not to get volunteered
Least insane .ml tankie
‘he was downvoted for speaking the truth’
Net positive, fuck Starlink and fuck Musk. Time to learn from the persians and block your neighbouring Starlink hardware.
Some peoples only access to reliable Internet is starlink.
I don’t like musk at all, but until there’s a reliable alternative, it may be the only thing people have access to.
This is an argument for community run fiber, not for Musk.
It’s Musk, it’s shit. People organized revolutions since the dawn of time without internet, they can do it again. In fact, no internet reduces the chance of foreign interference and the people can fee themselves without putting another British/US puppet in power there.
Wy the fuck amrikkkans meddle their nose in literally everything? Just leave the world alone you genocidal cunts
Article by a German outlet about violent repression in Tehran, and you crawl out to squeal about the US?
There was no violent repression. Its neocon propaganda to set the stage for Air strikes and regime change for Netanyahu’s benefit.
Yeah its regime regime regime. what about the vile American regime that bombs and threatens countries and facilitates genocide.
Even the Canadian Prime Minister called out Amerikkas bullshit at Davos.
canada was fully along them until they moved gunpoints towards them.
Why the FUCK DID YOU HELP US THEN?! Why?! It was okay at some point. Where was the line? When it was turned on you? Be fucking honest for once. It was okay when it was the third world.
Lol meanwhile over on Reddit every foreigner is crying about how they “did nothing” with photo proof of all the ways our allies helped us meddle.
That’s the part that’s going to turn us all against each other.
So many countries used the United States as well, and helped them with their vast intelligence networks and military. Now they abandon the usa pretending they didn’t have a fucking think to do with it. Fuck humanity. We will all deserve what we get.
What the shit is up with the forced tracking cookies on this site?
The aim is to prevent as many images and news as possible from reaching the public, which is why the Iranian government is blocking communication network.
No. The aim is to prevent cyber attacks and coordinated sabotage by drone warfare, like Israel used in June in the first hours of their attack, and like the US did when they kidnapped Maduro.
Eh? You don’t need open internet for drone attacks.
I should have clarified. Israel used drones smuggled in by agents, and remote-controlled using the internet, to disable air defenses and infrastructure in the first stage of their attack.
What ia going to happen when countries decide that they don’t want starlink satellites over thei air space and start to blow them up?
It would be hard to do? How much would that affect the general use of starlink for users on other parts of the world?
Given that space isn’t owned by any one country, and Starlink is a US company, whose services are used by the US government, there’s a very good chance there would be military retaliation.
Look up Kessler syndrome for an answer as to what may happen if starlink satellites were attacked. Nations only control their airspace up to the Karman line which is 100km up. Starlink satellites are well beyond that.
It would be hard to do? How much would that affect the general use of starlink for users on other parts of the world?
Only two countries have demonstrated air launched rockets that can destroy satellites on orbit, the USA and Russia. There is good speculation that China has built anti-satellites satellites, but no one is aware of any actual proven test.
Now, lets assume that all 3 countries decide they want to attack Starlink satellites at once with all their weapons. Perhaps they destroy 30 satellites in total. As of November 2025 the Starlink network surpassed 10,000 satellites in orbit. As for replacing the lost satellites, a single launch places 25 to 28 satellites in orbit at a time. Within the next 24 hours 25 more Starlink satellites will be launched:
In 4 days, another launch is occurring that will place 24 more Starlink satellites in orbit.
So destroying a few dozen Starlink satellites might cause a slight blip in coverage for maybe a few minutes tops.
Didn’t starlink satellites in really low orbit? Maybe you don’t need as sofisticate technology as with other satellites.
Didn’t China demonstrate last year that a land-based launch destroyed a satellite in space?
Destroying a few dozen satellites would probably kickstart a Kessler síndrome.
Very hard to do. You need to be able to launch to the same orbits as the satellites and Starlink uses thousands of satellites, almost all of which will at some point fly over those countries. So they’d need to shoot them all down.
What people could do?
Imitate them and put that fascist-owned monstrosity down everywhere.
Ah yes. The good government of Iran, the example of democracy and equality we should all follow.
If my only way of connecting to the internet in a situation of war is giving money to that nazi fuck , i would too.
I thought the fediverse hated starlink cos its an Elon musk associated thing? But now its good cos its allowing free speech to happen by oppressed people? But fediverse also hates free speech. Their is no consistency when it comes to the lemmy hivemind.
It’s almost as if different people have different opinions, despite being on the same platform.
Your mistake is thinking it’s a hive mind in the first place. People argue on here all the same as they did on Reddit. The only things the fediverse provides us is avoiding a highly commercialized forum, freedom of app choice, and controls in what instances we accept communication with. Probably some other major things, but those are my top three.
Just stop yelling into an obvious echo chamber and find communities you’re more aligned with.
There’s gray between black and white.
I hate the meth-nazzi-fuck, I would hate more my government if it started to imprison random people for inclusive ideology or religion or whatever.
I would use starlink if it’s a good ad working way of communicating in difficult situation.
Still would hate the meth-nazi-fuck.
I don’t think we can fight all the battles, think about owning a car (few car constructors are ethic), or food providers (bulk animal killing), flying (environment), probably 90% of my phone comes from a billionaire slave owning company, clothes? Same.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good article. Very interesting.
TL;DR: Starlink recievers use methods to make it so they don’t have to be directly positioned at satellites; this in turn leaves them vulnerable to “side lobe jamming” and GPS spoofing. The suggestion is to point them directly and cover them i.e. in a pit or in a cavity of some such so that the jamming / spoofing doesn’t reach it.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thanks for actually discussing the article instead of feeding the trolls
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It sounds like the downside here would be that you loose reliability in your connection. Probably fine for most things.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Seems like they’ve already lost the reliability anyway due to the jamming
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Yeah, you lose reliability. If you put the antenna in a pit it will be limited in its beamforming capability. This restricts the number of visible satellites, leading to situations where no satellites are visible.