I think this will solve itself as the electrical vehicle transition happens. Cars will become substantially quieter by default and at that point it will easy to adjust MOTs for ICE vehicles to meet more stringent noise levels.
Most motorists want noise cameras installed to clamp down on loud cars
Submitted 8 months ago by Mex@feddit.uk to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
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BrightCandle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Vej@lemm.ee 8 months ago
[deleted]GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Is your vehicle stock, or did you break the sound controls on it
sammer510@hexbear.net 8 months ago
I’m not really in favor of surveillance but it should be legal and socially acceptable to throw rocks at cars that have been straight piped. Fuck em. If you make your car louder on purpose you should be punished
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I’ve always called them “Fart Pipes”
vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
“Most people want surveillance installed to clamp down on autonomy”
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
When your expression of freedom gets in the way of my health, my gut reaction is that I need you to stop.
vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
So, please record all sounds around me. For my own protection.
Puttaneska@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Am I right in thinking that these exhaust systems require drivers to inform their insurance company, because they change performance?
Mex@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Do you think any of them do?
Vej@lemm.ee 8 months ago
[deleted]airlinefood@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Get a different one then.
duncan@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I live in a city center, and frequently have loud cars drive past. Some are substantially worse than others. The loudest of them are so loud that when they go past I can’t hear my TV for 30 seconds or so, and that’s with my windows all closed and listening via headphones.
Something really does need to be done to enforce the noise laws that are often being ignored.
mackwinston@feddit.uk 8 months ago
All motorists are loud. Cities aren’t loud, cars are loud. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
Mex@feddit.uk 8 months ago
some are a shit-ton louder than others though
Oderus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
and the difference is personal opinion. We had anti-noise bylaw removed because of 2 factors, the limit was too high for most people (96DB) and because it’s really difficult and expensive to monitor. They need special noise detectors and they don’t have lots of them so they only used them in areas where most people complain and it resulted in zero change while increasing costs.
My motorcycle is loud. Louder than any stock car but it’s far from 96DB yet it’s also quieter than a lawn mower, or a weed whacker, or a plane so what do you about those noises?
DJDarren@beehaw.org 8 months ago
I’ve taken to muttering “There goes the Vroom Vroom Man in his vroom vroom” every time one of these pricks rumbles by. It solves nothing, but makes me laugh.
squashkin@exploding-heads.com 8 months ago
I guess the question is how you could “regulate” this situation without having to add “noise cameras”
Mex@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Having a police force that does some actual community policing?
Leviathan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I want headlight cameras to clamp down on idiots blinding other drivers with their brighter-than-the-Sun headlights.
meldroc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
On the bright side, at least you don’t have coal-rollers…
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Can’t they just deal with it at the MOT?
Plus I’m pretty sure it would be pointless recording the noisy bollock whizzing up and down my road on his motorbike, because apparently number plates are optional when there’s fuck all police about.
ButtBidet@hexbear.net 8 months ago
I’m pretty sure that a lot of people do custom jobs, either at a shop or a hobbyist place. The nerds who are into custom exhausts can probably just switch before and after their inspection. Although granted I wish the MOT dealt with loud cars better. I heard they’re going down this route, but haven’t see any effect from it yet.
G4Z@feddit.uk 8 months ago
You know at my old house there was an ice cream van that made my life mildly more irritating as his chimes were on ear splittingly loud (guy must have drove with earplugs), and frankly I’d have loved it if somebody would have actually enforced the law (there is actually a law for ice cream van chimes) and an automated system like this would be one way!
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
The one near me plays something that used to be Popeye the Sailor Man, but now sounds like some Lovecraftian signal to wake an eldritch abomination from its slumber.
Satiric_Weasel@beehaw.org 8 months ago
The ice cream isn’t ice cream.
Lock your doors.
PoopyInThePeePeeHole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Noise cameras? They’re called MICROPHONES
sosodev@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m not sure if this a joke. Noise cameras are a real thing. They use an array of microphones to show which parts of an image are emitting sound and at what level.
theplanlessman@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I read it as being a riff off of “speed” cameras, which are obviously cameras triggered by speed and not cameras that capture the concept of speed on film.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
But they need a camera to grab the license plate of the offending vehicle…
krippix@feddit.de 8 months ago
I suppose the cameras are supposed to be triggered by noise
sturmblast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Fuck this. Freedom has costs, a few seconds of noise ain’t a big deal
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Keep your noise to yourself dipshit. Get a life beyond your motor vehicle and stop inflicting your bullshit on the populace you inconsiderate garbage.
Olympus@feddit.uk 8 months ago
What are your hobbies so we can call you a cunt for having them?
sturmblast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yeah go ahead and jump to conclusions… just because I support people’s rights to make their own decisions about what they own and what they do doesnt mean I do those things myself
median_user@lemmy.one 8 months ago
A single loud exhaust can wake up 10,000 people. The impact on mental and physical health if this happens a few times a night is immense.
Motorists have had their chance to not ruin the world for everyone else, and they have failed spectacularly. Time to intervene.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m not saying that it can’t be a problem for some people but again that’s the cost of freedom people are allowed to make their own choices with what they purchase and what they do. if you don’t like that you are totally free to remove yourself from the situation any which way you see fit.
giantofthenorth@lemm.ee 8 months ago
British people are insane. Why are you willingly asking for more government intervention in your daily lives for such a minor annoyance. Y’all do realize they will eventually be caught using this to spy on people.
BearArms@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Fuck it. I’m tired of being woken up by the sound of machine guns and grenades.
Blake@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Intentionally loud exhausts are obnoxious and selfish. As much as I dislike it, however, I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance. We’re already the #3 most surveilled country in the world, only the USA and China is worse.
activistPnk@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance.
My cognitive dissonance triggers on this point because one of the reasons I cycle is privacy. I am also firmly in the #fuckCars camp (noise, pollution, death, selfishness of people putting their convenience above lives of other people & animals). It’s hard to give a shit about car drivers having privacy. And also realize that car drivers inherently sign up to give up privacy in order to use a personal car anyway (registration, insurance, banking transactions tied to those activities and their fuel purchases, etc). The fuel purchases of car drivers feed the oil industry, which in the US feeds the war chests of republican candidates who disrespect both privacy and the environment.
Yet people making the wise pro-privacy considerate decision to cycle are still exposed to breath car fumes, noise, and life-threatening physics (e=mc²). Hard to have sympathy for car drivers.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Electrics cars will make it a non issue but then we will be stuck with the surveillance. Our country is scary. No one cares.
Having said that if you are intentionally being noisy for noisy sake there should be harder punishments. Even lose your license for a bit, it’s not a got given right to drive. You got to earn it.
activistPnk@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
Electrics cars will make it a non issue
I do not see EVs replacing scooters (which are driven by lower budget commuters). A single unmuffled scooter driving through #Paris at 3am can wake up 10,000 people according to Bruitparif. And don’t forget horns. Assholes will used their horns at 3am on my street. The only thing they give a fuck about is their own convenience.
The idea of harsh punishments works if a vehicle is continuously loud because it will eventually cross paths with a cop. So that position is fair enough. But what about horns? There’s never a cop around when horns are misused.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yes, and here you have an opportunity for that overwatch to benefit your daily lives. Accepting it everywhere else but bitching about it here seems pretty self defeating.
Blake@feddit.uk 8 months ago
If it wasn’t obvious, I don’t accept it everywhere else, I think the state surveillance apparatus should be completely dismantled.
Swarfega@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Harley Davidson bikes are just noise pollution. Unlike cars they are build like this out of the factory.
kenbw2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yea to me it’s not the volume of the engine/exhaust. It’s that it’s intentionally obnoxious
LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 8 months ago
We may be number 3 but we must be number 1 in terms of % of people monitored by some form of camera. The USA road network is nowhere near as heavily monitored as the UK.
Driving through France, Belgium and the Netherlands was very free compared to the UK.
burningmatches@feddit.uk 8 months ago
A taxi driver in Singapore once told me that they hold this title, ahead of the UK. He then pointed out the cameras on almost every lamp post.
RobotToaster@infosec.pub 8 months ago
More surveillance is always bad.
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 months ago
Just ban all private cars from the cities. They can park outside and take the train or bus. No more noise complaints.
Illecors@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
I’m on the fence. Daft custom exhaust on a 1.5 turbo 3cyl is stupid, but there’s no way I can agree to more surveillance.
Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I’m on the fence with your statement because it kinda describes WRC cars and they’re FUCKING AWESOME
Illecors@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
In general I wouldn’t mind people having the freedom to make their cars impossible to sit any reasonable amount of time inside, but I don’t currently have a suggestion on how to make certain peeps be not assholes in residential areas.
In regards to WRC - isn’t that world rally championship? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one happening anywhere near apartment buildings on single lane streets with cars parked on both sides and kids’ playground nearby.
jscummy@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m an American who stumbled here by accident but do you guys have many cars/bikes that are noisy out of the factory? The guys running Civics with a pineapple shooter look like assholes but I kind of get it if you’ve got a big V8 that just sounds like that
Illecors@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
Nothing really sounds loud out of the factory. It’s always the peashooters with custom exhaust.
GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I guess it depends what your comfort surveillance is.
In this case, it would likely be “camera activated at 96dBA, numberplate in view was BO55 MAN, NIP being sent to keepers address”
donut4ever@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The louder the engine, the smaller the dick. I wish the same would happen here in the US. Those fuckers have self-esteem issues.
ButtBidet@hexbear.net 8 months ago
I 100% support your sentiment, but please consider reframing away from body-shaming in the future.
Twink@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Agreed. My tiny dick doesn’t stop me from not having a car.
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 months ago
It's not even the engine. It's the exhaust. Nowadays they even use speakers that literally play fake engine sounds.
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
I don’t really care what’s in their pants as long as fines are harsh. 20% net worth and also we take your bike away. That should do it.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
20% net worth for a non criminal offense 😂 Alright, I want cyclists to be fined 10% of their net worth when they ride straight through stop signs, 20% for red lights!
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
I don’t really care what’s in their pants as long as fines are harsh.
obinice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Most motorists? Why is it only people who enjoy motoring that get a say in this? What about the rest of us?
I don’t drive and I want them to crack down on those loud as feck vehicles, especially the dirt bike races they have regularly.
Loud as feckin hell.
Vej@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m a bit on the fence. In the US there are people that drive loud bikes and cars all the time. I have a classic car that’s pretty old and loud. I don’t drive it too much. I feel like that’s just part of history at some point.
On the other side, people will find out where these noise cameras are and just drive through residential areas to avoid them making the issue far worse.
andthenthreemore@startrek.website 8 months ago
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to make it an MOT fail?
Pat@kbin.run 8 months ago
Please. I live on one of the busier streets in my town, right by an intersection. The amount of people driving by with cars that sound like someone's farting over a megaphone are insanely obnoxious. Fuck, most the time they're shit boxes that go slower than normal cars. People in my area buy cheap, shitty cars, pay to have a falsified safety, then make them loud and obnoxious while slowing down traffic because their cars can barely accelerate.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’ll take the loud cars if we can get some real fucking regulations on headlight brightness so I don’t get blinded every time I drive at night.
alchemy88@lemmy.team 8 months ago
Its motorbikes round my way that are stupidly loud. Not even kidding you can hear some of them a mile away. I know this because I can see the road about a mile away and still hear them!
bloopernova@programming.dev 8 months ago
(Apologies for USA centric comment)
I think if that was proposed in the USA, people’s heads might actually explode. When 2 roundabouts were put in nearby, some people acted like the UN new world order was on its way. I grew up in Basingstoke so I love roundabouts. Thankfully people have come around to the idea.
I’d support it just so my dog can walk near a road without some pickup gunning its engine as it flies past us. Any kind of traffic speed reduction is treated with fury over here.
People with loud pipes don’t realize they look like a nobend and sound like this:youtube.com/shorts/s0xqopmjbSo?feature=share
activistPnk@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
⚠ That article is a bit enshitified and autoplays video. Just a warning to anyone on a limited internet connection.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Get an adblocker? Nothing automatically played with Firefox and uBlock.
activistPnk@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
There are countless ways to implement autoplay. You apparently got lucky with one particular toolchain in one situation. Tor Browser is FF based and should not be extended by plugins (as that changes fingerprints), and TB plays whatever junk is on that page.
Have a look at how long Google has been unable to disable autoplay (2009).