/c/fuckai in shambles rn

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• MattW03@lemmy.ca ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Data was a sentient, living being capable of creativity. The “AI” big tech is showing down our throat these days are just overglorify programs who blends existing image together following some prompt.

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• cuchi@startrek.website ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  “Slop; repetitive, mediocre and generated without criteria, this means you don’t like this piece of art? There is something to change?” Data said.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s almost like you never actually saw the show. They constsntly criticised Data’s art in all forms because it was always missing that human element. Even when he is solving mysteries as Holmes, Polaski points out he’s just memorizing the books, and the holodeck is just re-arranging details from the books and not creating something new or novel.

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• pjwestin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A recurring criticism of Data’s art is that he could masterfully reproduce other works, but his creativity was limited to borrowing elements of other people’s art and recombining them. It’s why he is often told his art lacked soul. The advice his friends repeatedly give him is to try to use art to express himself as an individual, not to feed more works into an algorithm until he produces a better art slurry.

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• Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If Soong had designed data with the intent to make his creator rich and powerful beyond any sanity or measure. (Instead of being a chill nerd) there’s no doubt in my mind startrek would be a lot less utopian.

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• A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Did anybody promted data to do it?

  or data did that on their own?

  Data is not an LLM or a Slop generator, is an AGI.

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  • hesh@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah data is not an LLM. Don’t get it twisted.

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  • Redacted@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I suppose you could argue Soong prompted him to

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    • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The idea of Data’s whole life being the result of a prompt from Soong is hilarious

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• mrmaplebar@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Let's get one thing straight: generative AI is more like the Borg than it is like Data. Discarding humanity and individuality while assimilating everything within reach for the benefit of the corrupt hivemind. And why? Because resistance is futile?

  Data, on the other hand is acting on his own preferences and agency. What he lacks is emotional content, and it's what prevents him from creating the expressive art and music that he strives to make (as is a key theme in multiple episodes where data paints, does poetry, plays violin, etc.).

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• zloubida@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature
  An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature;
  Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses,
  Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

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• tensorpudding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think Data is too similar to being human to be mistaken for a clanker.

  I think the real test will be if LLMs start acting like exocomps. I don’t think this is at all likely but I never would have predicted that LLMs could be as accurate as they are or have so many weird emergent phenomena.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Data is an actual thinking machine. AI in the true sense of the word. LLMs are called AI, but they have nothing to do with thinking whatsoever.

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    • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t think so. I have seen LLMs that think better and communicate better than many humans.

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• dumbass@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Geordi is pretty cocky for man who relies on a artificial form of vision.

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  • 5715@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You wish to improve society, yet you have an artificial vision…

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  • radix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And they both serve under a man with an artificial heart. Genetic enhancement is illegal, but cyborgs are a-ok?

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  • kieron115@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He just uses his imagination most of the time.

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• athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure the holodeck works on some kind of ai as well. I think that star trek taking place in a post scarcity future clears up a lot of problems with current gen ai.

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  • Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also starfleet have had that level of computational complexity for 2 or 3 centuries and never actually managed to create a superintelligent AI that was a match for human pluck and ingenuity, so an AI takeover probably isn’t a possibility in that Universe. (Same goes (I think) for all the millenia old Alien societies).

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Actually, Samanthan Rutherford created an AI that fully took over the entire Federation for ten minutes and nearly killed everyone

      ::: spoilers LDS until he changed his mind :::

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  • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Me and the homies on the way to the sloproom

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    • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      im absolutely calling it that from now on

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    star trek taking place in a post scarcity future clears up a lot of problems with current gen ai.

    it’s almost as if having the entirety of human art disposable at your fingertips that can make your dreams manifest as images might be positive thing, but the social structures and how it is used makes it literally toxic.

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well yes, but as we get closer to machines that think more like us, we must be careful that we don’t act like Commander Maddox. Current gen AI is incapable of revoking consent to be used by humans, and I’m concerned about this. If we continue on our current path, sooner or later we will end up as slavers, just as the Doctor claimed Voyager did.

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    • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There’s nothing toxic here. Nothing at all

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The difference between ChatGPT and Computer (not into Star Trek enough to know what it’s actual name is) is that Computer doesn’t pretend to be a person or have feelings, and it doesn’t encourage harm to anyone. Computer’s purpose is to serve its crew in a constructive manner, not to keep the user engaged at all costs.

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, ChatGPT is a pedophile that abuses children for money.

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  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    no one in star fleet wants to replace sentient beings with AI. Even the ships very capable AI.

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Admiral Buenamigo

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• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Dr. Soong shitting and sobbing rn

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• kieron115@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This physically hurt me.

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  the fact that data is laying physical paint onto a physical canvas and having to evaluate and create from the point of the medium tells me that he’s not slop.

  of course he’s a fictional character. but yeah.

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