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The Year of the Unknown Desktop
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The Year of the Unknown Desktop
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t. By subtracting where it is from where it isn’t, or where it isn’t from where…
You get the idea
What do we know about
The unknown knowns
The things we don’t know we know?
Seeing macOS go down, it seems to me, new macOS is masking
Technically Cisco devices use “IOS” but i doubt that’s whats shown here.
Isn’t Cisco also moving away from IOS towards web-based GUI-centric administration? I forget what it’s called, but it’s not the same as IOS
yeah idk either
ipad requests desktop sites and so displays in desktop user agents
I’d count laptops along with desktops. There’s no meaningful difference for most folks. The desktop is dying hard and fast, has been for a decade.
iOS devices aren’t laptops either… At best it’s a locked down tablet with a keyboard.
Other is really taking off in 2025. Should we invest in other?
Unknown though. Had more than osx at some points!
TIL there’s a new operating system that came out less than a year ago but already captured 5% of the market, passing ChromeOS and Linux
This stat is rubbish because they’re basing it on web views, and the millions of ai scraping bots are influencing it
Everything going down or remain steady except “Unknown” I don’t care who wins, I care that Windows loses
Likely different handhelds making a statistical bump
The unknown is actually a niche OS they put on all the smart dildo and sex toys they make now. True story. ✌️
Teledildonics has been a promising technology for several years.
And yes, you CAN run Doom on it. But turns out it’s not a great idea
Fun in the dark with an OS you’ve just met. Oh my, how saucy!
Android?
I bet sex toys run on android and have a social network attached, these days…
A couple of peaks of unknown seem to match very nicely with the windows graph, if you invert it. I think the two big windows crashes we see are measuring differences or re-categorization effects.
Yeah it seems like most of unknown is just windows since they spike and shrink together.
I’m colour blind so there’s basically only three colours on this graph but what I’m assuming is showing is that windows is decreasing in popularity and apparently so is OS X. I’m assuming the other colour is Linux or crown but no idea which is which.
The reference when making graphs make them in black and white first and if they are visually distinct then you can add whatever colours you want.
Here’s a table version of this graph:
| Year-Month | Windows, % | OS X, % | Unknown, % | Linux, % | Chrome OS, % | iOS, % | Android, % | Playstation, % | macOS, % | Other, % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010-01 | 93.76 | 5.16 | 0.2 | 0.7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.15 | 0 | 0.02 |
| 2011-01 | 92.02 | 6.56 | 0.07 | 0.74 | 0 | 0.44 | 0.01 | 0.15 | 0 | 0.02 |
| 2012-01 | 89.62 | 7.33 | 0.07 | 0.82 | 0 | 1.71 | 0.24 | 0.14 | 0 | 0.07 |
| 2013-01 | 90.96 | 7.95 | 0.07 | 0.88 | 0.01 | 0 | 0.12 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2014-01 | 88.87 | 8.35 | 0.05 | 1.13 | 0.14 | 0 | 1.45 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2015-01 | 88.19 | 9.1 | 0.91 | 1.46 | 0.33 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2016-01 | 85.18 | 9.03 | 3.8 | 1.47 | 0.51 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2017-01 | 84.4 | 11.2 | 2.07 | 1.55 | 0.77 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2018-01 | 82.68 | 12.8 | 2.17 | 1.43 | 0.9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2019-01 | 75.47 | 12.33 | 9.41 | 1.61 | 1.17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2020-01 | 77.7 | 17.04 | 1.83 | 1.9 | 1.52 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2021-01 | 76.26 | 16.91 | 3 | 1.91 | 1.91 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2022-01 | 75.5 | 15.85 | 3.86 | 2.19 | 2.6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2023-01 | 74.14 | 15.33 | 5.27 | 2.91 | 2.35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2024-01 | 73 | 16.11 | 5.33 | 3.77 | 1.78 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2025-01 | 71.9 | 15.02 | 7.43 | 3.72 | 1.92 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.01 |
| 2025-11 | 69.37 | 8.26 | 13.14 | 3.07 | 1.3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.85 | 0 |
Unfortunately I can’t paste the whole table here because of character limit so look at it here if you want to (in Markdown format).
if you click in the source in der desc of the post, you can hover over the lines. thre it says which line referes to what
No it isn’t. At the right-most side of the graph “unknown” is higher than OSx, and “other” is above Linux and ChromeOS.
What the hell happened in Jan 2023
the shape of the gap is almost the same as the peak in “other”. So that peak is probably “windows but we messed up with data collection” or “some browser in windows changed its user agent”.
Interesting. But since when is iOS a desktop operating system?
Probably since iPad gained a keyboard with mousepad?
Since they added free-form window management.
It is barely on the graph at all, and really only in 2012 - I’m assuming they released some product around then that is enough like a desktop computer that it made the list but ultimately fizzled out.
See yall in 60 years
Or 25 years, people habitually underestimate exponential growth
At this rate it will only be relevant for another 15-20 years.
Unknown could be anything. It could even be windows!
Unknown could be anything.
Thats not a bad thing.
I’m a big fan of preventing marketers from gaining additional useful knowledge about me.
Sometimes that means anonymizing, sometimes it means actively polluting their data.
Unknown could be AI scrapers
Not only, since those stats actually are based on trackers and such, when you use something like uBlock Origin, pihole or anything that blocks trackers they will just list you as “unknown”.
Let’s see what the Steam Machine will do for Linux on desktop. 2026 will be interesting.
Even if they sell like hot cakes relative to their intended audience of Steam users, it will not make much of a difference in overall market share. Steam might be relatively big with PC gamers, but overall they are rather tiny.
Tiny yes, but IMO getting the attention of computer gamers needs to be the next step if a Linux flavor is going to become a household name.
Even if it’s “SteamOS” that becomes the household name instead of “Linux” that’s still good overall. Maybe it’ll turn into how people used to say they had “Droid” smartphones, not Android.
Between that and windows 11 forcing people to choose between buying new hardware (at currently inflated RAM prices) , remain on win10 without updates ot switching to a different OS, it really could mean the fabled “year of the Linux desktop” has finally arrived.
Trash graph showing Win at nearly 100%
Fuck right the fuck off lol
OS X
I don’t use Apple devices and didn’t realize that they didn’t all use the same operating system (OS X vs IOS). Shame on me, I guess.
So under unknown we can count as Linux+ BSD?
So I assume this is some kind of web traffic graph?
There's desktop iOS?
Unleaded8163@fedia.io 2 days ago
Hmm... What's eating Windows' lunch? Oh "Unknown" and "Other". Cool.
magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 2 days ago
Can it be fingerprint spoofers skewing the results? In that case the data is worthless.
tempest@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Most people don’t fake agent strings but the bots sure do.
The actual thing obscured by this graph is the amount of users. Most people use mobile devices now and companies are incentivized to use apps there instead of actual desk top machines.
yessikg@fedia.io 2 days ago
That's probably Linux too
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think it’s pretty clear from this graph that the macOS is eating their lunch, and to a lesser extent, Linux.
MSKX@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Android?
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
If the data is coming from statcounter, it’s kind of vague where they’re pulling it.
It’s strange to see IOS and not Android, maybe because it’s fractured into so many sources
It could also be anti ad/tracker stuff.