Submitted 3 weeks ago by RegularJoe@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/11/supreme-court-sony-cox-copryight-internet-case.html
“Imagine losing internet access because someone in your household downloaded pirated music.”
Wanna push everyone to the dark web? This is how you do it. People will just become obsessed with covering their tracks. You’ll have to rip open countless companies and organizations to get this to work. Fuck ‘em. Prying eyes can eat shit and die.
You might be exaggerating people’s technical knowledge, desire to increase their technical knowledge, and / or their desire to effect change.
Running i2p or Tor isn’t that challenging and demand drives innovation. I could see one-click solutions taking off in a few months if people were willing to pay a few bucks a month to download basically anything the dark web can offer.
TOR is easy enough to set up that if you know how to install a program on your computer and run it, you’re good to go. It’s not the ideal way to run TOR, and is still somewhat insecure, but can be done in a few clicks.
Back in the early 00’s, the amount of people learning how to download pirated music safely, arrange and burn a CD with it skyrocketed. Fast forward a few years and people with no real computer skills were learning how to rip and burn DVDs.
I wouldn’t underestimate the potential of people with motivation to circumvent an oppressive system.
… or their disposable energy after working 10h and caring for the kids.
On the flip side what choice will they have after sony’s AI gets them cut off by claiming rights to the pictures of thier own kids on facebook. They will need lots of tech to get back online. And we know there are people who will find a way to make it dead simple.
Simply running away is not a winning move in the long run. You risk losing people along each ever more complex system as the technical debt grows greater and greater. And you cannot exhaust the system backed by trillions of dollars.
The only solution comes from challenging the states authority to do so in the first place.
No, don’t challenge the state. The state is too weak as is.
Challenge the billionaires who buy our government instead.
Decouple billionaires from politics.
I am fully confident they will make the worst, and most unconstitutional, choice.
Of course, the illegitimate Fed Soc ones will
I’m gonna go to businesses I don’t like, hop on the Wi-Fi, and pirate from all the most obvious trackers.
This seems like the best strategy realistically. If scotus makes it everyones problem, then make it a problem for those with the most to lose from losing internet access.
Starbucks in particular would have a bad time lol
They wouldn’t though, large businesses see no consequences from laws that you and I would see consequences for.
Nah, then it just becomes a defacto situation of the content creation companies (Disney, Sony, etc) owning the telecom companies. So you will truly be a single content household, like a Disney Household or a Paramount Household.
Great sentiment but we all know a business will get a pass for this just like when Meta got busted torrenting all those books and were told its okay because they’re using it to train their AI.
only one way to find out!
Is that the conclusion? I thought that’s still under investigation. I remember reading about it months after the first reports.
Selective enforcement.
“Wanna learn about the threats to your livelihood posed by this upcoming court case? Pay us just $2.99 a month!”
😘
Careful, you could lose Internet access for that
Remember when a certain company just paid a large fine for pirating information to train AI?
So step 1 should be to remove Internet access to Meta, if you aren’t going to do that, then it is 100% corrupt.
Problem being, does anyone do anything about it being corrupt?
Sony so mad at Cox for not cutting off someone’s Internet for downloading they’ll take it to the SCOTUS, but they won’t even use the frankly abusive laws they already have access to to just sue the end user? What is even going on?
Sony wanted mo money. Yo money wasn’t enough for them. So they got a jury to agree that Cox owes them 1 Billion dollars.
Let’s all sing about how much we love Corporate Governance.
^Please don’t shut off my internet telecom daddy I’ll drink another Mountain Dew Verification Can!^
Because those laws aren’t doing enough to scare people into obeying. This is the next step in trying to terrorizing people into submission.
Sony is really anti consumer. I went to buy one of their PC games the other day, but it is not available in the country I am presently in right now along with a few other developing counties when I looked into it. So if you want the title, your only option is Torrent it and such which I am sure is common here.
Sony is really anti consumer.
Throwback to when Sony intentionally packaged literal rootkits on their music CDs, so anyone who used the CD to play music had the rootkit automatically installed. And then when they were forced to make a rootkit remover, they simply installed more malware to hide any file names that matched the rootkit’s name. Which introduced an easy way for hackers to hide their own malware, by simply naming it the same as the rootkit.
I hope the SCOTUS justices aren’t using 3-strikes-you’re-out ISPs! All it would take is three random DMCA takedown notices and they’d lose Internet.
What a FASCINATING concept!
USians are gonna be required to get federal internet licenses before they are required to get federal gun licenses
all the better to remove the federal internet license requirements.
The ruling could determine whether access to the internet—today’s lifeline for education, work, and civic life—can be taken away as punishment for digital misdeeds
And this is how we get a CCP Digital Firewall. Combine this with the Flock cameras, Ring doorbells, and years of data networks collecting information on us for advertising, and I do not see this going well at all.
accused of repeat copyright infringements
Does this court determine whether this concrete accusation against a person holds as well, or does this court determine whether an accusation is enough?
They will let A.I. resolves disputes, just like YouTube does.
/s
or is it /s?
Hold your forearm out so I can compare it to this color palette. We’ll go from there. /s
americans sure are getting a hell of a time
Sadly, a lot of the internet is hosted in America, so anything that fucks them will fuck us
dan@upvote.au 3 weeks ago
Should the USPS/AusPost/your local postal service be allowed to cut off a household’s postal service because someone received a pirated CD in the mail? That’s essentially the same thing.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A private business keeps accusing you of operating a meth lab using city water, now they get to sue the city water provider for not cutting you off. That’s basically what this is
dan@upvote.au 2 weeks ago
This is probably a better analogy. Thanks.
snowby@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Hey there,
I understand where you’re coming from, and I agree that cutting off internet access because of illegal activities is a slippery slope. It’s important to balance the need for protecting intellectual property with individual rights. At the same time, I think it’s crucial to consider the potential consequences of such measures.
In terms of the comparison to postal services, I do see your point. While I believe that internet access is more critical in today’s digital world, it’s essential to address the issue without resorting to drastic measures like shutting off someone’s mail service.
Keep on keepin’ on!
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Is this written by AI?