How can a US state block porn?

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• Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The same way they banned drugs. Not very well.

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• missingno@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Conservatives have been labeling anything and everything they don't like as "porn". A queer romance novel is "porn". Two male characters kissing on television is "porn". Drag queen story time is "porn". The picture book Heather Has Two Mommies is "porn". And most importantly to them, educational resources for LGBTQ youth are "porn".

  So by declaring porn illegal, they now have a pretext to go after everything they call "porn". Their goal isn't to remove all porn from the internet, it's to make it harder for people who need those educational resources to access them. It's not about porn, it's about "porn".

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  • HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not about porn, it’s about “porn” controlling the population.

    FTFY. It’s always about authoritarianism and control of the people.

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• notfromhere@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s not a war on drugs porn, it’s a war on personal freedom, OK? Keep that in mind at all times.

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  • SaraTonin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s more sinister than that - Project 2025 explicitly says that one step in the plan is to classify anything pro-LGBTQ as porn. Make porn illegal, and you’ve just made being LGBTQ or an ally illegal.

    Be openly LGBTQ or say anything supportive in front of someone under the age of 18? You’ve now committed a sexual offense involving a minor.

    And, even before Trump was elected, Republican lawmakers were making the first moves towards mandating the death penalty for sexual offenses involving a minor.

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    • Jumbie@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So when do they do that to Epstein’s friend?

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• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  As you’ve accurately identified, they can’t. Best they have is say “nooo you can’t” and hope sites comply out of pure fear. Even if they could, VPN.

  They also completely bungled prohibition, drug prohibition, and the states with restrictive gun laws are bungling that. And women from the anti abortion states can still get out of state abortions.

  Bans don’t actually work, especially when there’s already an abundance and the banned thing in question is easy to produce.

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  • madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I will just add how Republicans try to ban everything they don’t like, but when it comes to banning guns they are like “Bans Don’t Work!”

    The point is that Republicans never do anything in good faith. It’s always lies and hypocrisy.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Tbh I agree with them on that, bans don’t work.

      But also I say the same to them regarding the ones they do want. Just because they’re hypocrites doesn’t mean I have to be!

      Ban bans lol.

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• AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You’re 100% correct, this is totally a whack-a-mole situation. Some websites follow the law, and some don’t. I have no intention of sharing not only my identity, but sensitive data to access these websites. I use a VPN to bypass this on those websites that comply.

  This is getting out of hand. I feel that we have more government in areas it absolutely doesn’t belong, and not enough where it belongs.

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  • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I feel that we have more government in areas it absolutely doesn’t belong, and not enough where it belongs.

    smALl GovERnmEnT

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Government that wants to spy on you but can’t directly prohibit encryption, so this is the work around. Prohibit porn, people go for VPN. Oohh, now we have to prohibit VPN which we can’t because its a required tool plus it’s really hard to prohibit… so what else can we do, then? Government backdoor keys ftw!

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    • AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you care to elaborate? I can’t figure out what exactly it is you’re trying to say here.

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Don’t they get the common VPN IP and just block them

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Porn sites don’t really want to comply with the ID laws. They’re doing just enough to not get fined by the Land of the Free. They want you to use a VPN so they can continue to have your business without dealing with the ID bullshit. If your IP is not in a bible state they have no reason to believe that they must comply.

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    • AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I shall cross that bridge when I get to it. For now, it works.

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• HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It isn’t a ban so much as being able to legally go after people who evade the ban.

  If you are a reputable company in the right jurisdiction, you can be sued by the state for operating illegally. That is likely enough to get companies to block the state’s IP addresses.

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• ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You can block anything if you’re stupid enough to think it’s going to work.

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• devolution@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  More like whack-a-hole am I right?

  I’ll see myself out.

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  • Kintarian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lol

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• WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s all a big plan to bring sex and rape back into real life public parks and bathrooms.

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• yaroto98@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It is impossible. US states make the law, and require the websites to self-block the IP addresses within the state using geo-ip. It’s a flawed solution, but comes with the benefit of being able to sue any semi-large website for not self-blocking and the state receives free fine money. Best part is the state doesn’t actually have to do anything, just pass the law and rake in the publicity.

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• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Poorly.

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  • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And inefficiently!

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Really? Have you all not realized that removed almost all porn a few years ago. Anything that wasn’t from a studio or only fans account was removed. All these sites are owned by the same company and its best easy for them to purge content or restrict access. Even with a VPN, they’ll just find the IP they use and ban those over time

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m willing to bet that, since that happened right as onlyfans took off, most of the amateurs were already looking to onlyfans as a way to monetize their hobby. Surely “no amateur content” on pornhub likely pushed them more to it but I think it was really inevitable with all that, and the affordability of decent camera equipment I’m sure helped.

      That said, I’m fairly certain that you can still have “amateur” content on PH you just need to verify it as you somehow, and then there’s always xhamster, erome, and m*****less (iykyk, and if not, leave it that way) and a myriad of other sketchy as fuck sites that don’t care the source of their videos.

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• Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  1. Regulate all traffic sent or received across the state.
  2. Send traffic through a firewall.
  3. decrypt traffic
  4. drop traffic that can’t be decrypted.

  Another easier way:

  1. Regulate ISPs with new state laws.
  2. require they block porn.
  3. Sue ISPs that violate the law.

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  • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    decrypt traffic

    drop traffic that can’t be decrypted.

    This would be an absolute fucking disaster for myriad reasons. Anyone who earnestly suggests it as any sort of solution 100% has no idea what they're talking about and should not be taken seriously.

    Yes, politicians talk about trying to do something like that, but the reality is that it would destroy security for businesses, institutions, and even the government itself. Encryption and VPNs are crucial to just about any modern business of even moderate size.

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    • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Many US companies have businesses inside China, it’s bad but it’s not impossible. I wouldn’t be surprised if a state actually doesn’t.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Aka, the great Chinese firewall

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  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hiding data in innocuous data could also work, eg by altering the pixel values of images subtly

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    • rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s really hard to do over https.

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• neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I really hope to see official declare a “war on porn”. Considering how terrorism and drugs won the previous two, I’m sure it’s gonna be a fun watch from the sidelines.

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  • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t know if terrorism or drugs have “won.” The government is able to use them to fuck up the lives of people who they don’t like… see venezuela and what they’re trying to do with antifa.

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• Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  !askusa@discuss.online

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Send state troopers into ISPs and force them to things at gunpoint.

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