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Xbox ditching hardware and exclusive games "makes sense," former Microsoft exec and Blizzard boss says, as "only a moron would continue" making consoles as games go third party

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https://www.gamesradar.com/platforms/xbox-series-x/xbox-ditching-hardware-and-exclusive-games-makes-sense-former-microsoft-exec-and-blizzard-boss-says-as-only-a-moron-would-continue-making-consoles-as-games-go-third-party/

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  • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So consoles are basically becoming branded gaming pcs?

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They kind of been for a while. At least architecture wise but with the new Xbox ROG handheld you can access your steam library or install a different OS like Bazzite altogether. You can‘t play your Xbox games on it though, which probably means the days of Xbox as a console are over. But Xbox players must‘ve known they won‘t be able to transfer their game library to new device anyway.

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not all Xbox players, clearly. With Microsoft doubling down on not having any physical media containing the full retail game on disk from Xbox 1 onwards, every one of those accounts are hosed unless they have an archive of all the downloaded files needed.

        My advice to them - mod your consoles (360 and below) if you have them, rip your discs, and get ready for when Xbox services (for console hardware) are sunset.

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Have been since the 8th generation, unless you count Nintendo, whose 8th gen was a PowerPC (Mac), and 9th gen onward is a glorified Android phone with a dedicated GPU.

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      • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I guess it depends on how you define PC. But older consoles also used CPUs that were found in desktops (and laptops), although they weren't PCs in the strict sense.

        • Sega Mega Drive (and other consoles) used the Motorola 68K that was also used on Macintosh and Amiga.
        • Game Gear and Sega Master System used the Zilog Z80 which was also used in the ZX Spectrum and other computers.
        • N64, PSOne, PS2 used MIPS CPUs which were often used in high-end computer systems (SGI).

        Consoles did often have custom GPUs though.

        That being said, these days both Playstation and Xbox are literally locked down, custom form factor, AMD Ryzen CPU + Radeon GPU PCs.

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      • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Mac haven’t used PowerPC since 2005.

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      • Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        All 3 consoles of that generation (PS 3, Xbox 360 and Wii) used custom PowerPC cores suplied by IBM.

        Before anyone says anything, Yes, the Cell CPU on the PS3 had a PPC core paired with 7 vectorual units, so it counts.

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    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The PS Triple/360 generation was the last time that wasn’t the case

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    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      More accurately, PCs are becoming consoles, but yes, they want to converge it all into a locked down hardware as a service industry.

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Microsoft approved PCs are becoming consoles.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        PCs are becoming consoles

        The Amiga dream is finally coming true

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They kinda always were, tbh. Just with some kinda of unique limitation that prevented them from being used for any purpose other than playing a specific brand of video game.

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    • rozodru@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I believe if a new generation of consoles are released they’re just going to be glorified streaming boxes. Sony has pretty much hit a plateau as far as graphics go, there’s not much you can improve upon now. And sure people are cancelling and complaining about gamepass but Microsoft might just go the route of “we’ll tell you what you want, and if you want this exclusive you’ll have no choice but to subscribe”.

      So you’ll pay for this streaming box, you’ll get maybe a couple months of the subscription for free, then you’ll pay $30 to $50 a month to get access to their catalog. Sony and Nintendo will follow suite. If you want to actually “own” anything you’ll play on PC and even then that’s truly up for debate. Like do you actually own the content you buy on Steam?

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Steam as a platform is easy to crack (that’s why so many steam game repacks circulate), but there’s a degree of expected stability due to their reputation for the Steam platform’s longevity built over two decades. Additionally, their status as a private company with no external pressure puts them ahead of MS, Sony, and Nintendo in terms of future turbulence.

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      • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Like do you actually own the content you buy on Steam?

        That’s why piracy is also an option.

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is the asshole who presided over a significant portion of the enshittification of both Xbox and Blizzard, so we know exactly what his opinion is worth

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    • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would argue that this actually makes his opinion more relevant, as executive management is more likely to think like Ybarra, as opposed to someone that regrets the decline of Blizzard.

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Know your corporate overlord, eh?

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  • chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nice idea to make Xbox and PC one platform, but given how badly the ROG Xbox handheld was implemented (since you can’t play Xbox games on this “Xbox”), good luck with that.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Doesn’t it fully support GamePass? Doesn’t GamePass have all the XBox games?

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Problem isn’t that, since the handheld is just running windows it can only run games with a PC release. If the game was never ported to PC they currently have no way to play it. They really thought through the whole release real well.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes. Kinda. Some games from the X1 era aren’t available on PC, like Halo 5. X360 games that are backwards compatible but weren’t actually released for PC, like Red Dead Redemption, won’t be available either.

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Open source “Xbox”:

    • Peg the performance requirements and a utility to verify them.
    • Allow devs to build games with those specs in mind.
    • filter in the store for games built for that spec.
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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      "We have steam deck verification at home"

      • Microsoft (in a year)
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  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So what is Microsoft going to be doing?

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    • ADTJ@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Buying the successful studios to obtain their IP and then sacking all the employees to cut costs.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Copilot on PS5, somehow

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Slapping that ™®© on it and raising the price.

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  • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would love it if I could play all my Xbox games on any PC that has the correct specs.

    If I have to keep game pass to play the games I purchased then we’ll have a problem.

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    • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I kind hated whenever i was looking at solutions to running pc game pass games on my steam deck, everyone was like: “install edge it works on Linux, that will let you stream the game.”

      Like, that was not what I was looking for. It also required you to go to a higher tier of sub.

      Both happy and sad that I already canceled it.

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Emulation General Wiki Check the Xbox category section.

      If you have physical media there are ways to rip them using a commodity DVD/Bluray drive so you can back them up, load them in the emulator, and prevent data rot on the actual disks.

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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • troed@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hate to agree but yeah. We're buying everything for Steam now since we put a Steambox (Bazzite) in the gaming room. The PS5s are now just legacy boxes.

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    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That would be the case for techy people like us, but growing number of people cant handle anything more complicated than a phone OS these days that I think consoles will continue to have a purpose.

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      • troed@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I find SteamOS to be as un-complicated as any other modern console tbh.

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        By the numbers, that demographic appears to be shrinking, not growing. PC has grown while consoles have shrunk.

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yay! Make sure to check out some of the cool couch gaming indies - Enter the Gungeon and Duck Game are some of my favorites.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Like Nintendo, who still sue emulators.

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  • ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Xbox consoles have been mostly sold out in Finland. Some retailers still have some stock left, mostly Series S, but it seems that Microsoft has exited Finland.

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    • FalseTautology@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You didn’t miss anything significant in since like Halo Reach.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Meta Quest was the last innovative games console.

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    • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Quest is cheap and good hardware, but its software layer is dystopian hell. Obviously, I mean, it’s meta.

      I love the cheap access to decent PC and embedded VR on my quest 3, I absolutely hate this OS and its constant corporate spam. I know, this is kinda why its so cheap. Doesn’t mean I have to like it.

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      • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, I didn’t think an OS could feel more skeezy than Windows until I got a Quest 3.

        A shame too, cause it’s legitimately great hardware.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Totally agree. At the moment the Meta involvement is tolerable, but all it takes is a couple of forced ads or intrusive personal information demands.

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    • FalseTautology@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t buying a quest giving money to Zuckerberg directly? I don’t think I could sleep at night

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They are sold at a loss, so you are technically stealing from Zuckerberg directly.

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