I dont care. At this point I just want something to contain them. Whatever app it must be please just dont let them leak onto the rest of the internet.
Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% MAGA”
Submitted 5 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/trump-says-tiktok-should-be-tweaked-to-become-100-maga/
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Auth@lemmy.world 5 months ago
zululove@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Fake and lame
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 months ago
When Xi is the only way to save the US.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Loops and other fediverse platforms are more important than ever. We need independent social media - not billionaire owned platforms.
Karryp_17@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Totally with you on that 🙌 Independent platforms feel more real. How long have you been exploring the fediverse?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
What does it take to get people to switch, though? The owner of X did a Nazi salute in front of a national audience. Twice. And most people are still on there.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
They just don’t care or don’t even see it because they live in their personal bubble of like, sports news and little more.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Here’s how this works:
- Network is created that doesn’t discriminate on speech.
- The left wins debates and it becomes increasingly liberal over time.
- Far right billionaires buy it to stop those process.
edgarzen@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It’s Chinese spyware bro
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That’s why decentralized platforms have to be the answer. They might not be impossible to co-opt, but they’re certainly more difficult.
I’ve been warning people about this stuff for years, and they wouldn’t listen. I’m not happy about being right. It sucks!
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
pretty sure cults are maga (talking about spawnism).
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s already shite, but why stop there!
arsCynic@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Brain rot only for the right… 28 TikToks Later…
REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 months ago
I’m sure it really depends on where you live, but here in East Europe I’ve noticed tiktokkers slowly turning into Z’ers who start accepting Russian disinfo as facts. Meaning, it’s already pro-MAGA
ludicolo@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Loops.video
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 5 months ago
[deleted]edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
I think people won’t care, at least this demographic fellow Gen Z. They still gonna use the app. Arguemnts such as “oh everyone uses this to send funny tiktoks to themselves it’s not that big of a deal” it will be just more shit to go through. Similar thing to Twitter. Everyone is so pissed at Elon because more bot accounts, you can’t or couldn’t block him and other shady stuff but still uses the twitter (X) because… everyone uses it.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m seeing people moving to sky (or whatever it’s called). It takes time for people to switch social media platforms.
Unpeeled3828@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I already moved to redgifs. Goodbye Tik Tok.
F_State@midwest.social 5 months ago
Unsurprising that a guy collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship says that TikTok should be a mouthpiece for the Government. It’s time for someone in a country that ISN’T the US, Russia, or China to start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Russia, or China
These are the only countries you can trust to not extradite you to the US you fucking baffoon.
F_State@midwest.social 5 months ago
They’re also fascist countries where the government can and do set strict limits on content without concern for rule of law or the will of the people.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was wondering if a federated alternative existed, neat. Short form video is not for me, but I’m glad that exists for those that like it.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Or just don’t use these stupid apps.
F_State@midwest.social 5 months ago
Any plan that starts with “if people would just”, they in fact will probably not
modernangel@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% Epstein files”
Kurious84@lemmings.world 5 months ago
And renamed to Hate Tok
network_switch@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
…wikipedia.org/…/Protecting_Americans_from_Foreig…
I knew this shit would be abused eventually. A year and a half and this publicly though. With how bipartisan support for this there was in congress and publicly, an instance of leaopards eating their face for those certain that safeguards would work/future bills would pass to improve the safeguards (how often does that ever happen? Post-9/11?)
laalaa500@kbin.earth 5 months ago
Man, I just thought about the AI deep fakes. I never had a Tiktok (and left any remaining social media a long time ago) and I applaud anybody who is jumping ship right now. But the brain drain is extremely dangerous with the AI stuff.
seanziepples@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The AI videos are becoming very prevalent. If you didn’t know what to look for you may not recognize it off the bat. It’s wild.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Everyone has those friends who keep sharing you stuff from tiktok. I also happen to be pretty good with AI, run my own local models and all that (I know lemmy hates AI, but just for context…). The thing I’ve noticed is that by the each passing month, they keep sending me more and more AI generated or edited stuff, it’s rapidly on the rise. If it has become so good only people with trained eye can spot it, how will tiktok look in 2 years?
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.
But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.
bigfondue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think that just like Elon with Twitter, the value is not in revenue but controlling the narrative.
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That only works if people use it.
For some reason, people have stuck with Twitter. But, the users of TikTok are not the same as the users of Twitter, so who knows, maybe they won’t stick with it.
normalexit@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This will be truth social again with a pre-existing user base and better algorithms. People will drop off, but they will probably boil the frog slowly to keep people around.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
In ex-USSR that happened as something destructive, but in USA honestly it’s normal, using institutional pressure to help friendly businesses. Trump is unusual only in how grotesque he is in his position, but history saw Talleyrand.
And US sanctioned Japan just because some of its businesses couldn’t compete, which didn’t kill Japanese car industry, but hurt Japanese computer industry, and sent Japan into recession from which it didn’t quite recover.
About driving users off - that doesn’t really happen unless you intentionally break everything. VKontakte be the experiment showing this, except TG was later made based on VK makers’ experience with social stuff, and was very successful, and is now basically the most convenient messaging\social platform. When something FOSS manages to reproduce the experience of TG, then FOSS messaging and social systems stand a chance. So - some of the life moved from VK to TG, but it’s more of VK’s experience stagnating and being too complex and overloading, not of people fleeing it.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wow that sounds like a fun way to bankrupt another company
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
He bankrupted a casino, he knows what he’s doing.
I suppose that’s why the people paying for his campaign chose him, to bankrupt a nation you need someone this talented.
Why do they need said nation bankrupt I don’t know, maybe to make it fail while the failure will still be not too gigantic to recover from, and maybe for yet another pump-and-dump scheme, except this time with a country and not an industry. Depends on how optimistic you are about their motives.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
When the USSR collapsed, it made some well-connected millionaires into billionaires. When the USA collapsed, it makes billionaires into trillionaires.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He bankrupted a casino, but still was paid millions to do so.
He will bankrupt the US, but is being paid billions to do so.
4am@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Trump has wanted to destroy the United States since we captured Epstein in 2011 and shut down the best of his trafficking ring. It was never the same after that and that’s why he was suddenly so outspoken about Obama.
Take away a narcissist’s toys and they’ll just vow revenge at all costs. He doesn’t care that he’s destroying millions of lives - we took away his favorite thing; underaged “playmates”.
The rest of them are just assholes who think they can get rich and in some cases, have.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Russia wanted the us bankrupt and as corrupt as them.
Juice@midwest.social 5 months ago
Maga should totally mess around with social media censorship, worked out great in Indonesia
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Even better in Nepal.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 months ago
My decision to remain on rednote is once again validated
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
He isn’t even trying to be an American president. Only to his lie-loving MAGA.
art@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Had to leave Twitter when it became a Nazi site, I can leave TikTok to I guess.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 months ago
I sometimes feel like the only mf around who doesn’t and never used tiktok. From the very start it just gave off bad vibes, and then all the news started coming out about it rotting your attention span away, data collection and russian manipulation winning hearts of young people, which pretty much confirmed my suspicions. Ironically reddit feels like a much safer platform than tiktok.
midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
You know, given how exploitative and harmful TikTok has been from the start, it might have been better never to use it at all, I’m guilty of being on TikTok too, mainly used to keep up with a few artists I listen to, but at the end of the day, the platform is just another exploitative data-harvesting machine.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
I never used either. Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.
But then I also gave up broadcast TV before even Netflix was popular. Just spent a small fortune on bargain bin DVDs instead.
nieminen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s a great deal of real news that goes through the app. It’s the majority of the content I see.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.
It was less a “cultural thing” and more a functional drift. From the RSS feed to Web2.0 timelines to feed by preference to The Algorithm of ad-promoted content.
Like with email, it wasn’t always just a fountain of spam. Our systems have been deliberately and predatorially enshittified.
Bruhh@lemmy.world 5 months ago
me nervously doom-scrolling on lemmy via voyager 👀
BanMe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve been averse to trends like this, but I did get on Facebook and Insta this summer at the urging of some friends (I run a nonprofit so it’s useful to network). By last week I had both apps on my phone and was just numbscrolling through Insta videos. Realized my mental health had gone to absolute shit in weeks. Deleted the apps andI’m feeling myself again.
It really is dangerous what they’ve created, if I didn’t have ambition, I would be right there zombified.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s mainly the kids and low information adults who are on Tiktok, that’s why it’s popular.
AshCircuit@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
If that’s what it takes for people to stop using that stupid a** social media, I’m all for it.
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 5 months ago
glad you bend over so easily. Saves whoever the cost of lube even.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 months ago
Bend over for what? We need to fight for the braindead app for idiots.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tiktok was China’s soft propaganda because they suppressed unfavorable content rather then promote favorable content. Trump going full MAGA with it would kill the platform because people use tiktok to stop thinking about distressing things. Not be exposed to more of it.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What would he care if it kills a lot of use. Some will stay, even if it becomes just an echo chamber, there will be users who don’t leave and slowly get fed more and more content that changes their bias.
A propaganda machine does have to reach 100% of the population, it just needs to pluck small percentages that were on the outskirts and hold the current believers in a situation where they believe this is better than whatever bologna scenario they make up would happen if they weren’t doing this. America is MUCH safer place to live today than it was when I was born back in 89’.
Yet a large portion of the population does not believe that, because they throw murders in people’s faces through every facet of our lives to make people feel afraid and use security as an excuse to gain further control over people’s rights.
Anyone who thinks “I could leave my doors unlocked back in the 1990s and I can’t today” has been fooled.
Anyone who thinks subways, trains, or public transit isn’t multiple times safer than getting into a car and driving to work, has been fooled.
And social media as well as news stations want us to be angry and scared, because it gets people engaged. Engagement makes them money. Happy people who feel safe go outside and go to the beach, play sports, go hiking, go to movies, join a book club, have a hobby of some sort. None of those things make news outlets money. Social media could, because they could sell ad slots to people who sell products for those hobbies… but I guess it doesn’t make as much.
fireeyes@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
the dump doesn’t belong in Politics. Simple Common Sense
plyth@feddit.org 5 months ago
What can be done to let loops.video profit from this even more than mastodon profited from the end of Twitter?
VM_Abrantes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can’t be any worse than how badly Rivian fumbled Tesla’s downfall
percent@infosec.pub 5 months ago
IMO, that site doesn’t really look like it wants to succeed. Seems like the mobile apps are still in development, so maybe the site is intentionally like that, for now.
The most obvious difference: When I open that link, I see no video. If I open tiktok.com, I see a video.
That’s just from a cursory look though. I’ve never heard of them, so I could easily be wrong.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
In other words, trump says “Stop looking for the Epstein files!”.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I love how we’re all fucked because boomers will never die. Honestly, Gen X has a lot more folks that let us down. It doesn’t matter the generation really. I know a pregnant gen Z, and all I can think about is how her kid, according to the popular generational theory, is going to be the next cycle of boomer. That’s probably why many young gen Zs are a bunch of little assholes. But then she was a screw up, and my gen, the millineals as everyone knows works harder and is still called lazy and had our own screw ups. Generations are what they are but having no chance at happiness due to the rich controlling every goddamn asset is a new kind of fucked we all have to endure.