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Meet the AI vegans: They are choosing to abstain from using artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons. Maybe they have a point

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Submitted ⁨⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/06/meet-the-ai-vegans

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  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    This is someone more obnoxious than ai tech bros

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  • CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I’ll just stick with calling myself “old man yelling at clouds” for the double meaning and so I’m not a vegan of any kind, thanks.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Aigen or Aibstenant something for a term. Vegan is not right.

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  • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    What bullshif us this?

    A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

    How about " people who don’t want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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    • dynamoMaus@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      You kind of summarized bring vegan

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      It’s a lead. Because they’ve already made vegans mockworthy

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  • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is such a stupid name for this.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’d rather be called a Luddite than ai vegan

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  • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So I’m not the only one who refuses ro touch it?

    Around me and everywhere it’s getting insane that if feels like there’s literally no one who hasn’t used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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  • guillem@aussie.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
    • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
    • Recycling: waste vegans.
    • Solar power: power vegans.

    The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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    • Auth@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Carnivores: vegetable vegans.

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      • bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And jus lik that we come full circle 😂

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      • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything “not cooked” in their plate or that is green.

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      • guillem@aussie.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Brilliant lol

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    • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
      • Working class: retirement vegan
      • American: healthcare vegan
      • German: humour vegan

      My god, it’s unstoppable

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      • zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
        • Republican: democracy vegan, justice vegan, decency vegan, consent vegan
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    • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Amish: techno vegans

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
      • Cyclists: transport vegans
      • Hippies: war vegans
      • Vegans: food vegans
      • Lemmy users: social media vegans
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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Incels: sexual vegans

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      • hypna@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I keep trying to eat meat but it just won’t cooperate!

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    • ApollosArrow@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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      • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Freeze! Vegan police!

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    • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s like taking the last syllable of the name of the hotel and tacking it onto every scandal, because you didn’t understand that it’s part of the name of a hotel, and not some sort of indicator of scandal.

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      • guillem@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The worst was the Col scandal.

        (Sorry. So sorry)

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    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re hereby invited to /c/vegan, as you appear to be a Northern Hemisphere vegan.

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    • Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean “Straight edgers” is on the same level already

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  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No “I’ll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time” hypocrisy. No “I use it to help me with maths, but I’d never use it to steal artistic work”.

    Just straight up “it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging”. Should be called “AI Ethicists” rather than “AI Vegans”.

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    • Womble@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.

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      • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?

        If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.

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    • Flagstaff@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Starting it with “AI” is already misleading. Whatever the noun is should be preceded by “Anti-AI.”

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      • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I dunno, the use of AI Ethicist fits as they’re not against the concept of generative AI as a whole, they’re against unethical generative AI (in terms of stolen training data and environmental harm).

        If the world transitioned to a post-IP (intellectual property) society (as we need to), with AI eating less power, then AI Ethicists are unlikely to object.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not cool to use “vegan” like this.

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    • REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Got a good chuckle out of me tho

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    • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s like vegangate or something.

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  • Brett@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “AI vegans”

    ffs, just publish an article with a single clownemoji for the same effect.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they’ve thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don’t know how to monetize it.

      There’s going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it’s weird not to use it constantly

      It’s going to go horribly and come off like that “fellow kids” meme, exactly lol me this headline

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      • salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m already seeing a surge of AI simp trolls on Lemmy in the last few days.

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      • criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        MBA dweebs running VC firms wanna desperately replace people with AI for short term profits.

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      • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        still don’t know how to monetize it.

        They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There’s also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

        Profitability is another question though. Likely we’re waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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      • zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value. I think you’re just talking specifically about ChatGPT and consumer-facing LLMs.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

    Whole new level.

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    • doctortofu@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That's because the author seems to be a journalism vegan, writing vegan and self-awareness vegan.

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    • echolalia@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I refuse to believe this title is anything other than engagement-bait, personally.

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    • humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its so wacky out there. When I read something like this I’m sure its The Onion. And its not. Then I read a headline about US politics and its totally believable , alas its The Onion.

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Seems to me you‘re a BS vegan.

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    • expr@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, pretty disappointing to see from the Guardian.

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    • Pudutr0n@feddit.cl ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’d be surprised how much more serene your headspace can become if you stop expecting anything beyond stupidity, incompetence and negligence as the default human behavior.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Have you ever been called an AI vegan?”

    “No… Shit no! That sounds like something that’d get your ass kicked!”

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.

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    • audaxdreik@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What aspects of crypto have been integrated into everything?

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      • vane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I think it’s scam. Before crypto scam was in couple of places but now it’s everywhere.

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      • ragas@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        The US government.

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Shitty click baity title

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  • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

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    • npdean@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hate this attitude from people who don’t even try things before saying they are not missing out. Try AI! You have to experience the head bashing, head scratching time sink, after which you do a manual search anyways. It is a marvellous wonder how bad modern “cutting edge” tech can be.

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    • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I also try, but it is invoked on my behalf. For instance, at work if I make a pull request now multiple AI bots are summoned to give an analysis of my code changes. It’s extremely verbose and annoying, and I think basically nobody reads it because all it does is just spam the comments section with way too much text.

      I vehemently hate OpenAI, ChatGPT, et al. At least it’s funny when it summarizes my changes as significant improvements that improve code maintainability. I guess getting glazed by the bot in a way my manager can see is helpful to my career? Though honestly he probably also doesn’t read that shit. So glad all this energy is wasted for nothing.

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      • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It is sickening how much slop is created that will never even be looked at.

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    • atticus88th@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just wait until you have an employer tell you that you need to write up a summary of how you used AI in your every day activities to save 25% of your day to work on other activities.

      You’ll use AI to write the summary and then soon discover that your employer is a tool and is paying more than double your salary to keep that AI around to do literally nothinf 98% of the time it exists.

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  • Toribor@corndog.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People just going about their business living their lives as they have for many years…

    Silicon Valley: Hey fuck you. Also I came up with a dumb nickname for you.

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  • medem@lemmy.wtf ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ‘AI vegan’…

    Where I come from, saying something that stupid will get you killed.

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  • CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If anyone says the words “AI Vegan” to my face, I’m throwing shit.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Make sure to wash your hands after.

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  • toiletobserver@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And here i am not using it because I’m old and cranky.

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    • joe_archer@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just don’t use it because it’s shit and doesn’t do anything I need any better than I can do myself in the same time.

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  • tino@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    TIL I’m a lot of thing vegan… also, not a vegan.

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  • MoonRaven@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can only imagine someone came up with AI vegan after they decided to eat steak that evening while thinking they’re the ones who are pressed by vegans…

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  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m choosing to abstain because it’s shit. The ethical things are just a bonus. It produces inaccurate information and bland soulless images.

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    • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It doesn’t produce information, it produces text.

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  • BearGun@ttrpg.network ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Stupid-ass title.

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    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Stupid ass-title

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  • Dvixen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I prefer Neo-Liddite. There’s a few aspects of modern tech I eschew - AI/LLM bring one of them.

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  • glibg@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Come on Guardian… why frame it like that? Folks using AI should be called out as strange.

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  • toast@retrolemmy.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It was always about worker’s rights anyways:

      Malcolm L. Thomas argued in his 1970 history The Luddites that machine-breaking was one of the very few tactics that workers could use to increase pressure on employers, undermine lower-paid competing workers, and create solidarity among workers. “These attacks on machines did not imply any necessary hostility to machinery as such; machinery was just a conveniently exposed target against which an attack could be made.”[10] Historian Eric Hobsbawm has called their machine wrecking “collective bargaining by riot”, which had been a tactic used in Britain since the Restoration because manufactories were scattered throughout the country, and that made it impractical to hold large-scale strikes.[13][14] An agricultural variant of Luddism occurred during the widespread Swing Riots of 1830 in southern and eastern England, centring on breaking threshing machines.[15]

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

      It was about making sure that as mechanization resulted in a lower need for labor, that workers compensation remained steady, and they worked less hours.

      People hating luddites is just the result of centuries old propaganda from the wealthy

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve never used AI, even when wanting to give it a try. There was either a queue or a fee, or must click-wrap agree to terms and conditions for free two months and I wasn’t going to do those.

    I never did an NFT either.

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think some AI use is clearly worth the costs (like helping with scientific research or accessibility), some clearly isn’t (like generating spam), and much falls in a gray area where reasonable people can disagree. So do I think it’s ethical to use me? In many cases, yes - but I understand why thoughtful people might conclude otherwise, and I don’t think they’re wrong to avoid AI if they’ve weighed the considerations and found the costs too high.

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There it is. The stupidest headline I’ve read all week.

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