what the fuck is with all these payment processors trying to curtail adult entertainment?
it’s fucking weird. they should stop being weird about what people do with their own money.
Valve gets pressured by payment processors with a new rule for game devs and various adult games removed
Submitted 1 day ago by frozenicecube@lemmy.ca to games@lemmy.world
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
sunbytes@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
A lot of them want to use your financial data (what you buy, for how much and when) to sell to advertisers etc.
Maybe adding porn stuff in there taints the data?
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Yeah I don’t get it here. I kinda get them not wanting to deal with porn when you can’t verify consent and age of the performers, but the games don’t make sense because there aren’t live performers to worry about.
Mostly that stuff annoys me on Steam because it’s always at the top when I’m sorting by trending/popular, but I don’t think it needs to be removed either.
lukaro@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
I doesn’t need to be removed completly, just removed for those that don’t opt in to seeing it. The damn porn titles make it impossible to use steam since I have young kids that don’t need to see that shit. Just let me browse your store without being overrun by half naked anime girls.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 13 hours ago
This made me think. For an European, are there any good alternatives to Visa/Mastercard/Paypal? Seems like we’re dependent on US payment systems
Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
I think Wero is supposed to become the replacement for all of that, though I’m not sure if it’s gonna have similar features. For now it’s only available in a few countries unfortunately.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wero_(payment)
Very limited market.
I am interested to see how it’s going to develop (considering the lagacy of paydirectqwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
Monero
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
In Spain you can use bizum, which is a system made by Spanish banks.
The ECB have been working in the digital euro for ages, which is supposed to allow payments directly processed by the ECB. But it is taking ages…
iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Time for Steam to make their own payment process then!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They… kind of sort of already have.
You can just throw money into your Steam account, via the mechanism they came up with for Steam Gift cards.
So, buy a physical gift card, or just give Steam your bank/card info, take money out of bank, give to your Steam Gift balance.
So uh, presumably, that Steam Gift Balance doesn’t exist in a bank anymore, beyond being a withdrawl from your account, its now just … a $USD value associated with your Steam account, that you csn now buy anything with, and your original bank/card company has no visibility into that second transaction.
ugo@feddit.it 1 day ago
Won’t work. I imagine PayPal’s stance here is along the lines of “we will not allow any payment to go through to Valve as long as there is content we don’t want on Steam”.
If PayPal only stopped payments towards the content they don’t like, Valve wouldn’t have done anything. The fact Valve is removing content means that PayPal must have told them to remove the content or else they would stop allowing payments to Valve altogether. I can’t imagine a reality where this is not the case.
PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
As much as I like Valve’s work, I don’t think thats a good fit for them. Their staff seem to enjoy working on difficult technical tasks, and lose interest very fast when it comes to mundane maintenance, thus their numerous underutilized and unmaintained features throughout Steam and their games. A payment processor seems like exactly the sort of thing that would get forgotten about a month or two after it gets finished.
duchess@feddit.org 1 day ago
Implementing direct debit shouldn’t be too hard and straining. Most of their staff is maintaining an e-commerce platform, they‘d do fine.
HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, also its less “valve staff get bored and dont do mundane tasks” iirc thier pay is based on what thier coworkers think the value of thier work was, which is usually in how visible/noticeable which discourages long projects thay take more than a year and mundane tasks that are not very clear and visible
nialv7@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Maybe time for some to start a adult only game store that uses crypto to settle payments?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
nutaku exists but I don’t think they use crypto?
Also you can buy adult games on itch.io
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s the appeal of a porn game over just watching a video? Seems like the interaction is a hassle
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I’d imagine it’s sort of like reading porn rather than watching porn. Different people are activated by different things.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Fair enough
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
More role play I suppose?
morphballganon@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Immersion and customizability
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I imagine to some its sort of like gambling? Hard to say.
Hugin@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
People like porn involving characters they like. Look at all the rule 34 content. Games give you a chance to engage with the characters before the fucking.
There is also a bit of T&D as you build anticipation while playing the game.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
[deleted]mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
There’s literally multiple filters to block adult and NSFW games from being shown in the store. If you’re seeing porn games, then you haven’t turned them on
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You have to opt in to see porn games. You’re seeing them because you chose to.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Huh, more creepy incels in this community than I expected. Oh well.
PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Not suprising, and given the nature of most of the games removed, debatably reasonable, but it still highlights the need to reduced reliance on the few big American payment processors like PayPal.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Concur. I’m still banned from PayPal and I have been since the early 2000’s because I used it to buy a “high capacity magazine,” which PayPal declared was “illegal activity” with no appeal.
…An airsoft magazine. Not a single state in the union where that’s illegal (or at least certainly not at the time).
Payment processors attempting to police the nature of online transactions should expose them to liability, not the other way around.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Inb4 they start flagging 3D printers because you can print mags with them.
Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
you would have to declare them as internet utilities.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I got banned as well, and I’m still not sure why. I’ve never sold anything, and I’ve only bought a handful of things and sent money for rent a few times.
I think someone hacked my account, because I hadn’t used it for ~10 years before noticing that I was banned when I tried logging in again.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I thought by payment processor, they were talking about Visa, MasterCard, etc.
PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Same thing applies, but the article suggests that its probably PayPal in this case.