As much as I hate Nintendo, publishing wise they’re good.
Pop it in your calendars
Submitted 9 months ago by sirico@feddit.uk to games@lemmy.world
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Nikls94@lemmy.world 9 months ago
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t understand how game dev works, how does a publishing company fire the CEO of a game dev company. Like do these publishers own the game company?
Wolf@lemmy.today 9 months ago
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Fuckin vertical integration bullshit
UberKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
they did such a bad job on Below Zero, this could be a turn for the better for the series. though if there are microtransactions that would kill it.
berty@feddit.org 9 months ago
Below Zero wasn’t a bad game.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I mean, I wasn’t planning on buying it before I played it anyway.
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I will wait and see how its release goes, not that I ever pre ordered a game anyways
I don’t have high hopes but I’m going to save my opinions for when it’s released
ter_maxima@jlai.lu 9 months ago
Publishers are cancer. Self publish whenever possible !
Vermingot@jlai.lu 9 months ago
It’s not so black and white, Clair Obscur : Expédition 33 has that level of quality and polish because the team behind it was able to find a publisher to finance it. Everything has nuance, we got shafted on subnautica 2 but we had other great games, some self published, some not
Wolf@lemmy.today 9 months ago
You Don’t Need a F-ing Publisher*
*unless you do.
It would just require smaller teams making lower budget games that are more focused on Art than sales, which I would be really happy about honestly. Too many people are in this industry solely to rake in the big bucks.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 months ago
A self-published game with a focus on quality will outperform any AAA game.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Is this definitely what those devs are asking for? Sure this isn’t just cutting them twice?
Yamanashi@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Seems like there is a plot twist to this story no one is mentioning bsky.app/profile/…/3ltmyjaecpc2w
Ashtear@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Everyone seems to be more interested in the latest techbro feud so I wanted to highlight what he said about Unknown Worlds staff not being given specifics on what their compensation will be. The statement was quite nebulous on that.
No problem going into detail about the previous execs though!
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Ah shit, is this ZA/UM all over again?
vane@lemmy.world 9 months ago
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m sure there’s some truth in there, but it is hard to believe it entirely. This is what you get for unnecessarily selling your company.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It sucks that this is going around too. Because no matter what the “right” choice is the devs are still gonna have to see what should have just been their fun project get thrown around in gaming politic hell
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Oh. Huh. That seems important. I wonder what they have to say in response.
DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I never cared for Subnautica I also never cared for PUBG
But what little I know about PUBG, What I’ve seen them do to Subnautica 2, and that lazy AI ridden “Sims killer” Inzoi, Im of the opinion Krafton are just hustlers.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
The Ai features in Inzoi are pretty nifty tho, generating any texture for clothing in-game with only a prompt is insanely cool.
DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
the creation in the game is advanced, its the gameplay inbetween the character creator and house designer that I find to be hollow
Wahots@pawb.social 9 months ago
The original Subnautica is worth playing, it’s a fantastic game with an interesting world, intriguing story, and actually fun gameplay and vehicles. The vehicles themselves are extremely fun, too.
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Original subnautica is amazing. I’ve played it twice which is a really high bar for me cause I rarely replay story driven games
Below zero isn’t bad either, I enjoyed it but it doesn’t come close to my first playthrough of subnautica
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 9 months ago
Just an Idea but could it be that the game was delayed because it is just not ready yet? Yes it could be an evil scheme sure, but maybe it is not. Has anyone here really any hard facts or insider information about the true status of the game?
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
apparently the original devs were not interested in this lol
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s always possible but the announcement coincides with the abrupt termination of head staff so that makes it suspicious. Still could be just for quality’s sake though, I dont know if we can find out something like that unless they want us to
nthavoc@lemmy.today 9 months ago
My last EA game was Battlefield 3 and I have never purchased an EA game since. Has that stopped EA? No. Why? People will buy it anyway because once their friends buy it, they have to buy it too. Companies all know gamer heard mentality. Your best bet is to slap that digital copy out of your friends’ hands right onto the floor. I don’t know how you do that, but that would be a nice thing to have.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I was on an EA boycott for a while without even realising it. They just stopped making anything that interested me.
Only broke it for It Takes Two and Split Fiction, which I paid full price for. I did play a few Respawn games as well (Titanfall 2 and the Jedi games) but got them either as part of PSPlus or Humble Bundles.
ameancow@lemmy.world 9 months ago
One of my more depressing moments in dealing with the human race was when people were boycotting Blizzard a few years ago for… well, everything. But the sexual harassment and discrimination scandal was the final straw for a lot of people.
I talked about it with my gaming friends on discord at the time, everyone agreed that what the company was doing was terrible, but the more we talked about it, the more they delved into nostalgia and thought about how much fun they had playing WoW when they were younger.
The next day I jump in discord and all five of them had reactivated their subscriptions and were having the time of their life running around WoW without a care in the world.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The biggest crime in AAA games is the tools paying top dollar for preorders and early access to games that have beta-level problems with gameplay.
Wait three or more months, they almost always go on sale and have had a patch or two. More playable, save $.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I’ll pirate it
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Pirate it is
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I’ve never bought a game that isn’t indie since 5 years 🫡
crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Same except I made an exception for fromsoftware lol
absquatulate@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Jesus tapdancing christ is the subnautica fanbase rabid. How about we actually wait and see how the game turns out before we crucify everyone?
I do agree that you should definitely not pre-order it and remove it from your wishlist. But you should’ve done that already.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
How about we actually wait and see how the game turns out before we crucify everyone?
Why does it matter how the game turns out if the stance is “we don’t want to fund shady developers fucking over content creators”?
absquatulate@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Afaik krafton have been insisting for a while that the game is not ready. Founders disagreed and they were ousted. But seeing as the previous two games were in pretty dire state when they released into EA, I wouldn’t really trust the founder’s word on it. The whole “squirreling out of paying them 250 million” thing seems like speculation, but what do I know.
Besides, the OP is just ragebainting, seeing as we know exactly fuckall about the game’s actual state at this point.
Vintor@retrolemmy.com 9 months ago
More importantly in the short run, remove it from your wishlists so that Krafton can see your choice! At the moment, they are super proud of the game being the most wishlisted on Steam.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Isnt every other new game “the most wish listed on steam”? Do any of them ever prove this with numbers?
Vintor@retrolemmy.com 9 months ago
You can see the numbers here, for instance: steamdb.info/stats/mostwished/
zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Steam itself shows the rankings, I believe.
Wolf@lemmy.today 9 months ago
I am also boycotting Microsoft and every product from companies owned by them.
Sure, that doesn’t leave a lot of games I can buy, but hey, Indie games are often the best games. Also I have a backlog so huge there will probably be peace in the middle east before I’m thorough with it.
Besides if there is a game I really want to play, I hear there arrrrr still ways to do so without supporting genocide.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 9 months ago
I find it really hard to boycott Microsoft today. Yeah, fuck windows, office, Xbox. But there’s GitHub and Azure which you just ignore walking the internet
Wolf@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Yeah, GitHub really hurts. Hopefully people will start to use SourceForge and similar alternatives once they realize that Microsoft isn’t just trying to monopolize Operating Systems and Gaming Studios, but the whole damn Internet as well.
kingpoiuy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Linux gaming is really hot right now. Out of my 575 games on steam I can play 568 of them.
Wolf@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Ditched Windows permanently 11 months ago for Pop-OS and couldn’t be happier. I’ve been a big Linux fan for years, but would always dual boot for gaming purposes.
I’m so glad that isn’t necessary any longer. Almost feels cheating, being Microsoft free with Zero downsides and plenty of benefits.
You may already know, but a lot of times when a game isn’t listed as ‘playable’ it just means that particular game hasn’t been tested yet and will likely still work just fine, unless it requires kernel level anti cheat ofc
Just so happens I’m boycotting that as well. If I wanted you to do shady shit to my OS, I’d have stayed on Windows.
Typhoonigator@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Do you have a recommended flavor of Linux for gaming?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is a good policy. They destroy everything they touch, anyway, including their acquired studios.
Gt5@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I feel like I’m the only person on the planet who thought Subnautica was boring and tedious. It was definitely not for me
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I just can’t get into it. I can see there’s a progress path of stuff to do, but it feels like there’s grind to get anywhere.
Evotech@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That grind is also why you actually feel like you are losing something if you die, and consequently makes you anxious about going deeper.
Zorque@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It was very much not an action oriented game. It was more about building resources and exploration. I can definitely see it not appealing to large swatches of the gaming population. Especially those used to the modern spate of action rpgs.
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I found it to be tense and interesting while playing. But looking back, I can’t really put my finger on what made it that way. I swam around and gathered resources to build boats, make food and fresh water - I can’t really ser what the big drive was. But I certainly loved it enough to finish it, which is rare for me regarding most games.
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
That whole survival crafting genre seems very hit or miss to me, and I’ve noticed that people liking one game in the genre is a very poor predictor of whether they’ll like another one. Subnautica, Don’t Starve, Minecraft, and Ark are all theoretically the same genre but very different games.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
people liking one game in the genre is a very poor predictor of whether they’ll like another one
I love survival/building games, and so do most of my friends. Even the terrible ones are usually fun. So I’d posit that it’s the opposite with a caveat: liking one for more than its story means you’ll enjoy the others.
I think it’s more indicative of games/hobbies as a whole than the survival genre specifically. People who love the adrenaline of a motorcycle may not enjoy the thrill of going down a mile high mountain on two thin sticks, IF it was the rumble of the engine beneath them that they actually enjoyed. If it was the rush of the speed though (or in the case of survival/building games, the exploration and struggle to stay alive and not lose your stuff), then they’ll likely enjoy the other adrenaline sports.
Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same here.
Balinares@pawb.social 9 months ago
Nah, that’s valid. I loved it to bits, myself, but what made me love it was how adroitly I felt it curated feelings of dread and sincere awe as I explored deeper and deeper; and that’s highly subjective. I hope you’re finding as much joy in your own fave games as I did in Subnautica!
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
I also wasn’t a fan, mainly due to how often you need to resupply to stay alive. You get a very small window of opportunity to do actual exploration before you need to go find more food and water, on top of gathering a bunch of other materials.
I liked parts of it, but ultimately just got frustrated with the tedious parts and bailed.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 9 months ago
I don't know how far you made it but if you make the biggest vehicle you can add planters inside the vehicle which significantly cuts down the need to restock. That said the in the end game the survival elements become so trivialize they end meaningless busywork even if you have planters.
cynar@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That phase does end. The various vehicles allowed for exploration without returning to the surface, as do deep sea bases.
At the same time, I fully understand why you feel that way. The crunch is required for the fear to be meaningful, it’s not everybody’s cup of tea.
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Couldn’t get into the main game. In VR, however, just exploring was an unforgettable experience.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
It’s just a shame it’s such a half arsed VR conversion. Way too much UI going on for my tastes.
cynar@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I want to love it in VR. It’s taking me a long time to train my stomach to accept it however. It gives me SERIOUS motion sickness in VR.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 9 months ago
They did all this because they know that the vast majority of the playerbase will never hear about this, and many of those that do will either forget, or simply not care enough to boycott the game. We're in an age of apathy across the board, with so much bad press that any given scandal just fades into the background noise.
LifeCoffeeGaming@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Not sure I can support that take. Kinda focussed on the headline there and ignores the fact that other people work there also, that are probably relying on the success of this game for their paychecks and ability to keep making games. The dev industry in general is not in great shape atm.
Let the courts sort out shady business practices imo.
Support a decent game (if it is decent).
Certainly don’t preorder. Looking at you internet denisons.
sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 9 months ago
Crosspost this on other communities and social media apps
maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“But it’s still mostly the same team, please give us the benefit of the doubt 😭😭😭😭”
Don’t be stupid, don’t buy from a publisher before the 1.0 release
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So is like what happened in ZA/UM with Disco Elysium?
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Welp, guess I’m going to not buy it harder then…
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
dastanktal@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Companies only answer to profit and unfortunately we get to see the results. Can’t have those proles making 250 million dollars now. That would eat into the profits of our shareholders.
mriswith@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The three people were replaced with a guy who used to work at EA. And one of their first announcements was an unprompted “we wont put loot boxes in the game”…
Opisek@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Just typical KRAFTON doing KRAFTON things.