The heatsink comes away just as smoothly if you’re looking to reapply thermal paste down the road.
Not that you ever should, since it has PTM7958 which should never need to be replaced, and gets better with age.
Tough, Tiny, and Totally Repairable: Inside the Framework 12
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.ifixit.com/News/111201/tough-tiny-and-totally-repairable-inside-the-framework-12
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the thermal pad tip fuckwit_mcbumcrumble !
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Now that’s a username I can trust.
thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me 2 weeks ago
Hey, my client doesn’t show that your comment contains anything, I think you’re missing the exclamation mark before the link.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Oh I still have to watch that, referenced in freaks and geeks I believe
zib@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I got a Framework 16 a few months ago and I’ve been loving it. Super happy these guys managed to make this concept of a repairable laptop work. Though, one thing I wish is for them to make a storage case for the expansion cards. I’ve built up a little collection of them and obviously filled up all 6 slots pretty quickly. I’d like a better place to put the unused cards than in a random drawer.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Want me to 3d print one for you?
Atropos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Man, I love these interactions on Lemmy. So wholesome!
Elk0287@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
What’s the best way to order a print if you dont have a printer yourself? Is there a site you can order from?
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
So… this is a 2-in-1 that is actually repairable? Am I reading this right?
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Normal laptop formfactor. You can have a touch screen as an option but it doesn’t do the full 360 fold round into a tablet.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
While this is, as you pointed out, not entirely inaccurate, I appreciate the small writeup, as I would plan to run Fedora or other similar distro on it and like to know it’s flawless in this regard.
Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
When AMD???
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I e got an i3 one of these on order and should turn up next month. I need to buy RAM and an SSD, but I think it’ll end up around £750 all in. Will replace my 11yo MacBook Air 11 inch. Mac OS just went in the wrong direction under Cook.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Makes me sad that I know exactly what you mean, this new glass shit has me nervously eying the Linux door.
soupbowl@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Linux Desktop has only got better in recent years. I made the switch to Ubuntu ~5 years back and have the opposite problem now - switching back to Windows/macOS can be a buggy pain.
Proprietary apps are still a pain for switching, but helped that most of the main ones (office) have capable web variants.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Why’s that? Never used apple devices myself, but I’m under the assumption that redesign is generally favored
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Got a Framework 12 and have all sorts of tiny annoying but somewhat manageable problems with it.
It used to overheat and then throttle to 400 Mhz every few seconds on high load. Overheating meaning 100°C. After a long time being annoyed and thinking “did I do something wrong” I reached out to support, and eventually got a new motherboard. It’s better since then, but it still gets hot quickly. Also, if I just idle, like maybe a few Browser tabs and that’s it, it will get somewhat warm ~65°C and I just don’t get it.
For some reason, it sometimes does not find my hard drive on boot. Works the second or third attempt, and is no software problem.
The light detection thing has to be disabled in software to be able to use the brightness buttons.
At the start, my wifi sucked really bad, just on this device.
Having some more ports than just the audio jack and the extension cards would be neat too.
Also, it was really expensive.
So yeah, I sadly wouldn’t buy it again, I think. The concept is really neat, but I’ve had too many annoying little problems. I still do use it as my main computer, and it works reasonably well, is light and well transportable, works with my docking station easily, etc, but those issues are annoying.
mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I had a gaming laptop whose CPU jumped to 92C immediately on load, the vendor replaced the heatsink + copper wires to solve the problem, the cooling system might be problematic instead of the CPU / mobo
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Do you mean Framework 13? The 12 has just started shipping
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
What? No, the framework 12 is the thing the had before the 13 one. Nowadays, they call that model always 13 it seems. I think you’re confusing something, I’ve got mine since a few years now.
WeebLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have been wanting one since these were released. My old Asus laptop from 2016 is still kicking, so I guess I’ll wait till it craps the bed.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Same with my 2017 Thinkpad.
If they release one with a TrackPoint and mouse buttons, I’ll upgrade early.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Same; I simply can’t use a laptop without mouse buttons.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
I got a fw16 love it.
Is the 12 on the same board as the 13 or is it its own main board?
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
New board size was dictated by the smaller form factor I believe. Still will be very interesting to see what options come out in time.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah seems like lots of good opportunities for old boards of a smaller form factor with diy projects etc
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Looks like fw12 is Intel and fw16 is AMD.
Abbrahan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Looking at the JerryRigEverything review it’s a new main board size.
crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The battery connector is amazing, not a ribbon cable in sight!
lemsip@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I had to double-take because I thought this was their 12th model. But no, they just suck at product versioning, like every other tech company.
stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The number only indicate the screen size. The other two laptop models are the Framework 13 and 16. The only thing that made it confusing for you was your assumptions, since it all seems pretty straightforward to me.
lemsip@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yes i realised that after researching their product line. And there are currently 5 different 13’s, and seemingly no easy way to differentiate revisions without listing the complete specs.
I just wish companies would make it easier to tell which of their products is newer/older.
Eg: 13" 2021, 16" 2022, etc…wpb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This naming scheme breaks down the moment they release another line of 12", 13", or 16" laptops. It’s a bad naming scheme.
randombullet@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I’m confused, do you have an example of a laptop that uses numbers for their model number iteration rather than their screen size or feature set?
lemsip@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No. Which is why I said they suck at versioning, like every other tech company.
VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
blowing my mind, i think this thing might make a good smartphone replacer
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
how do you use it with one hand?
imo that’s the only benefit of having a smartphone. any other computer can do internet calls too
VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
my hands are not agile enough to accurately use a 5 or 6 inch touchscreen
when i use a phone one handed, i am struggling through about a 35% mis-input rate and then the general unresponsiveness of Android on top of that
Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Hot damn that looks amazing, will get one for my kid.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I was a kid in high school just around the time that laptops were becoming available to the general public, somehow my parents actually managed to convince the school to buy me one. The one I had you could use to beat people to death, I certainly use mine as a weapon. We need to go back to that, I’m not interested in having an ultra thin laptop, I want a huge chunk of metal and plastic that I can use for self-defense.
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I just want an electric car that can do exactly this.
Modular components on an option of 3 frames. Reparable to a degree. Bare bones functionality. Physical buttons, no screens. Open source software. Upgrade not the whole car, but components as you go. Literally what video games taught us.
If I had Mark Cuban money, it’s the first thing I would do.
lobut@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Sounds a bit like the Slate truck to me.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Imagine Slate without Bezos
Would be so exciting
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Yeah, has that gotten off the ground yet? Or is it still just investor stage pipe dream?
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I think EV battery cells should be standardized and modular to reduce difficulty of replacement and make replacements cheaper and more available so that it could extend the useful lifespan of the car.
LikeableLime@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think the issue there is the tech in EV batteries is constantly changing due to miniaturization, battery chemistry advancements, etc. There has to be some point where the cells are “good enough” to become a standard though. I just don’t think we’re there quite yet.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
That’s batteries of the past. The rate of change in batteries has been so dramatic it has left people’s understanding behind.
Batteries will far outlive when a ICE care would have been scrapped.
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Cells pretty much are one of 3 or 4 standard sizes. Getting down to the cell level is pretty tough on a lot of cars though.
Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I have a bike I put together with this mindset and it’s pretty awesome. If any component dies I can replace it individually, even if it’s not made by the same company. No reason an electric car couldn’t have the same benefits except that the average consumer doesn’t care about planning ahead
littlewonder@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you have any resources or documentation of your build? It sounds like a cool project.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I think that has more to do with safety laws and emission standards than anything else. How can you properly crash test a fully modular car?
I’d love it if cars were more repairable, but modular would be a really tough design problem.
Heck, you NEED a screen in the US on any car due to backup cameras being mandatory. If you need a screen, I can see why companies would just use it for the infotainment system.
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yes and no. There’s a YT video of some guy fixing anything on any car. The catch is that for components for easy things are getting harder and harder to reach. I always used to change my oil myself because it takes 20 minutes and I know the filter got replaced. Harder and harder to do every car I have. So even basic maintenance I can’t do myself anymore.
Modular components could be workable in terms of you pick frame 1, 2, or 3 with batteries. Then you pick wheels/motors packs A, B, or C. Then you pick more and more options. If you own the A and C options, it’s a 45 minute swap out with a system that confirms things are plugged in right. Not every configuration would work together. Toyota uses a lot of interchangeable parts between cars. I mean do this with a whole back end or front end. So like 5 swappable zones that work in maybe 15 possible configurations per frame.
Maybe you want a battle wagon. And want to grow out of that to a pickup. Or start with compact car and expand to a compact SUV.
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Slate truck looks interesting and is exactly what you describe. Time will tell if it pans out.
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
It’s not quite what I’m saying, but it’s a starting point. It also isn’t really a thing yet. They’re expected to be available in 2027, so with EV incentives being eliminated, the now $27,500 basic model is already 30%+ more expensive before even appearing IRL.
D_C@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is a fantastic idea. If anyone ever does this then you should ask them for a cut of the profits 😏