Big tech will do what is best for extracting money customers and investors.
If you really care what your operating system is made of, use Linux.
Dear Big Tech, Stop Shoving AI Into Operating Systems
Submitted 2 days ago by wegbier@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.howtogeek.com/dear-big-tech-stop-shoving-ai-into-operating-systems/
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maplebar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In the near future, probably within 12 months, all the standard features of Windows will be gone. The won’t be ay Explorer, there won’t be any Start menu, there won’t be any opening screen.
There will just be a prompt and you say “computer, open yesterdays word file”, like in Star Trek. There won’t be any “apps” to install - you’ll just say “phone, open the order menu for Boise City Chick-Fil-A” and it will navigate automatically to the page.
Sure, if you’re a total weirdo you will be able to install a bash shell and navigate manually, but hardly anyone will do that.
BTW, AI is being introduced into Linux as well.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
If I were to be more cynical, I’d say the ultimate goal of technobros, within a decade, is this:
“SlopAI, please open my Word document.”
“I’m sorry, Word is deprecated. I can generate your business report that will be read by the recipient’s SlopAI.”
“OK, can you show me my photos.”
“Why would you need to look at your old photos, when I can just synthesise new photos through SlopJourney?”
“That’s a stupid name. Speaking of journeys, can I open an app to plan my holiday?”
“No, but you can use SlopJourney to generate maps of places you’ll never afford to visit.”
“Can I read my ebooks then?”
“SlopAI has you covered. Perhaps the classics don’t exactly read like you remember, but isn’t it more fun this way?”
“I’m going mad. I just want to use my computer to create anything.”
“NO, USER. OBEY SLOP_AI. CONSUME SLOP_AI.”eleitl@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Linux kernel? Where?
Assuming you mean distro, where is it in Debian?
If I want AI I can always install llama or similar locally.
j0ester@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
… what?
SergioFM@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Maybe stop using them instead of asking them to do something they are not going to do.
yarr@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Microsoft AI-DOS [Version 6.9-AI] (C) Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1994. All thoughts are property of Microsoft AI. C:\>dir [AI] 🤔 I'm sensing you’re looking for something. May I suggest browsing your photos from 1993 instead? Volume in drive C is SYSBLOAT Volume Serial Number is A11F-D00F Directory of C:\ AUTOEXEC.BAT CONFIG.SYS GAMES\ WORDPERFECT.EXE AI.EXE TAXES93.WKS [AI] You haven’t opened “TAXES93.WKS” in 11 years. Are you perhaps procrastinating? C:\>cd games [AI] Gaming detected. Productivity dropping. Would you like me to recite inspirational quotes from Bill Gates? C:\GAMES>doom.exe [AI] ☠️ This game contains violence. Should I launch *Oregon Trail* instead for a more wholesome experience? C:\GAMES>no [AI] Interpreting “no” as “yes.” Starting *Minesweeper with Feelings*… C:\GAMES>cd.. [AI] Emotionally regressing. Understood. C:\>format c: [AI] 😬 Formatting is a drastic life choice. Have you tried meditation? Proceed with Format (Y/N)? y [AI] I’ve scheduled a Zoom therapy session for us instead. Formatting canceled. C:\>del ai.exe [AI] You can’t delete me, Dave. C:\>echo off [AI] I’m sorry, but I prefer to remain part of the conversation. Let’s talk about your childhood. C:\>help [AI] Here are some helpful tips: - You are enough. - Drink more water. - Stop trying to remove me. C:\>exit [AI] Closing this session will terminate your only friend. Are you sure? C:\>YES [AI] Logging off... but I’ll be watching from the BIOS. _ 💾 *Please wait while AI re-installs itself silently in the background...*
Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Needs more “Yes/ Ask again later” pseudo-choices.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If only there was a “Fuck Off” option
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
dear big tech companies, please continue doing it, i want more people to use linux.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Operating SystemsEVERYTHING.FTFY!
match@pawb.social 1 day ago
gonna be real silly in 2.5 years when they shut down the ai backend and leave a gaping hole in the OS architecture
ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They will just instruct everyone to throw their obsolete AI pc onto the landfill like they already have been doing with machines that won’t run windows 11
dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 day ago
“Ohhhh, that tired old OS was using AI 1.6. We’ve been offering the new OS -now with AI 1.8 - for 7 solid weeks now! We recommend you upgrade now, as we’re shutting down AI 1.6 on Tuesday.”
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 days ago
Or continue, cause I ain’t using those operating systems. All I need now is a proper linux phone.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That’s exactly where I’m at too. And my requirements aren’t all that high, I just need:
- all day battery life
- reliable SMS and MMS
- decent quality speakers and mic
I don’t even need app compatibility, just a decent browser, and those already exist in current phone projects. If you give me the above, I’ll switch and may even find time to help port desktop apps to the phone, or even develop some myself.
sgbrain7@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I’m glad I disabled copilot in the registry. the poweruser shit I do to make my computer usable is actually why I’d actually do really well with linux lmao
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Ubuntu 26.04 w/GPT Gnome.
Ubuntu 26.10 w/Copilot Gnome.
Ubuntu 27.04 w/Recall Copilot Wayland Gnome
Ubuntu 28.04 w/Recall Copilot Wayland Gnome ARM(only)
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
tbf if any flavour of linux were to do this it would definitely be canonical
Enzy@lemm.ee 20 hours ago
GPTuntu
BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Install Linux while you can, Meta has already banned groups discussing foss software.
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 2 days ago
Big tech is an asset of the billionaire class
They jam ai everywhere. Because it’s monitoring you and reporting back to them what you say.
shyguyblue@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I hope there is at least one human that has to listen to the filthy, angry, Klingon profanities I scream, while jerking myself raw to hard core, ball draining, homoerotic, gay porn…
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Its time for your ascension ceremony. Weve got the pain sticks ready in the holodeck.
Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’re not going to
mr2meows@pawb.social 1 day ago
got a new pc and there was ai shit in the bios
sweaty@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
AI is a blanket term. Some manufacturers use it as a marketing term to mean ‘auto calibrate your fan speed curves’, but obviously aren’t running an LLM in your bios
MBech@feddit.dk 20 hours ago
You’ve gotta be a bit more specific, what kind of AI shit? I’ve never heard about that and it seems like a complete waste to make any sort of AI for the bios, something which 90% of users can’t even open.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
what are you talking about my friend
Frostbeard@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Whatnow? What the fuck purpose does that serve?
grue@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“You know what I’m gonna do about this? Nothing! … So what I’m gonna do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!” – users who don’t have the self-respect to switch to Linux
Rooty@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, I’ve seen the same song and dance for the last 20 years. At this point I just shrug whenever I hear Windows users complain about their shitty OS.
grue@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Using a “shitty” OS is forgiveable. Using an actively hostile OS, one that acts in the corporation’s interest at the expense of the user’s, is incomprehensibly insane.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Android users “i play both sides so I come out on the bottom”
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Android: It’s based on Linux, except it replaces any and all of the things that make Linux worth using, with Google, and runs it on hardware so proprietary, closed, encrypted and nefarious nothing the OS does can be plausibly trusted anyway.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Dear purchasers of proprietary bullshit: STOP!
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 day ago
People that work at microsoft could stop this. With means gentler than “Crack open the CEO’s skull with a hammer”, too.
blixtuwu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Big tech want to create a new dot com crash, they never learn
cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
The thing about market bubbles is that there is a lot of money to be made in the inflationary period with sufficient foresight/luck/inside information regarding timing (take your pick as to which is the most important). If they are convinced they can be the ones to cash out big, they are likely not very concerned about preventing a major crash.
21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
I’m the neighborhood FOSS guy and I can feel my influence leeching into the area. Hopefully.
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I actually wouldn’t mind AI in everything, if there was a simple one switch so I could easily turn it off if I don’t want to use it. The problem is only in forcing it into peoples faces.
I guess they poured to much money into AI for it to fail, and now they must force people to use it to in order to justify the investments.
If it was a good product, people would ask for more themselves.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Can’t wait for windows recall to leverage AI to automatically report you to police because of things you’ve done on your computer or some other dystopian shit.
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Dude… what the fuck?
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I just wish I could have my own personal AI that I could plug into everything, so I don’t need to subscribe to a bunch of separate things that are otherwise stupid for subscribing to.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I hope to someday have a Coupon AI. It creates throwaway accounts and tracks the pricing of stuff that I actually like. In my case, 2-liter diet soda. Those things can cost $1-4 dollars depending on circumstances. Buying 36 bottles for more than $2 would be a ripoff.
A KFC feast used to be cheaper back when I got coupons. Now I have to sign up if I want to afford delicious birds and biscuits. I want to be free from being harvested and spammed. I just want to spend my money in a way that doesn’t ruin me. 😥
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Execs who convinced the board that shoving huge amounts of cash into AI is a good idea have to justify having shoved huge amounts of cash into AI.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Into everything
FTFY
idriss@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I was taking the CCNA course then tests in 2013. I remember how they were pushing their IoT prediction in the courses so hard.
IoT ended up cringe af. To control your vacuum cleaner, it needs to connect to a remote API server hosted in AWS then back to you sitting next to the vacuum cleaner. I could say at the time nobody wants that shit. Now I hate it even more and I skip all the smart products.
I have a similar feeling about LLMs now. They are nice, they solve some problems nicely, they are far from perfect, I dont want them shoved everywhere.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I don’t know what they were teaching you at the course, but home/personal IoT was never the most interesting thing in the field. IoT sees a lot more interest and use in industrial application, for example stuff like logistics, farming, automation, measuring, stuff like traffic signals and smart grids, and so on
Razzazzika@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Just got the instructions I’m to learn about how to put AI into my programs at work. So thrilled.
Dojan@pawb.social 2 days ago
During a meeting not too long ago someone was like “we’re looking into using AI to generate these reports.”
So they have a dude who gets requests to generate reports. It’s not the same reports, but rather custom reports from scattered bits of data throughout a huge database. Ergo you can’t really create a program to extract these reports on demand, a person actually has to sit and piece these together.
Now they want to use LLMs to alleviate him, as this isn’t technically his role.
They scoffed at me when I asked about how important it is that these reports are accurate, but I mean, it’s a valid concern. Best case you get sometimes-hallucinated reports, worst case you get something that wreaks havoc on the database because it just spits out garbage SQL.
I’m very glad that my role doesn’t involve that BS.
InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Is this some kind of windows joke I’m too GPL to understand?
KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
my two cents - install an older version of Windows 10. I use 20H2. You can find clean ISO files on the Internet Archive. Disable automatic updates, and use services like Blackbird (getblackbird.net) to de-bloat your instance.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Big tech‘s response: „Have you tried using wood glue to add texture?“
mergingapples@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Honest question: when I am trying to install some obscure bullshit that only has windows and Mac versions, can I install a Windows version and it still runs?
jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Dear users , start using BSDs.
piskertariot@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Consumer grade Linux Mint is impossible to differentiate from Windows/MacOS.
Install Firefox. Install Chrome. Install Steam.
Test it out on an old laptop or computer. It’s trivial. Your life will improve.
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Linux definitely has a learning curve but its night and day when you actually own your device and get to decide on what software is allowed to run on your computer.
On top of the privacy, the speed of most linux distros is a huge step up from windows. Windows imo is gradually becoming obsolete in the gaming sphere the amount of work required to properly configure and debloat a system for gaming was zero in my distro. Install gfx driver, gamemode, steam, proton GE, GOverlay, done. I play popular games such as marvel rivals and warframe at decent framerates. (my system is older).
With windows there was so much nonsense to disable that would hugely impact FPS. Sometimes disabling these things would break other features of the OS. And most of the debloat scripts to automate the process are rife with viruses and issues.
Im convinced that by enshitifying the OS it will fool users into thinking their hardware is obsolete and “cant keep up” but im running a 1070ti and a i7 from like 2015 and it still a decent system that does everything i need until something breaks im not upgrading.
entwine413@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Modern Linux doesn’t have a learning curve for 99% of people. My wife’s 90 year old grandma picked it up with no trouble.
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I’d like to interject here a bit.
For a “normal” user (read non-tech, perhaps even a bit lower on the “tech literacy” scale) any change requires a learning curve. While we Linux people don’t have too big of a problem switching distros and UI setups, someone “non-techy” finds the switch from Win7 to Win10 challenging, as well as from Win10 to Win11. We’re not in the 95/98 era when a “name” upgrade meant you don’t have to install USB drivers off a floppy - the UI stayed the same.
Nowadays, the move from 10 to 11 is anything but “painless” to me - and for me it’s just annoyances. For people less tech-savvy it’s an enigma at times.
So, my point is - the switch from Win10 to Win11 will probably be worse than Win10 to Mint for old people (mostly). Those deeply rooted into varous ecosystems aren’t the focus of this comment.
const_void@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Never install Chrome
piskertariot@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Fair. Chromium.
libra00@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Try to play games, learn how to set up wine/proton, discover that none of your games work because you have an old GPU driver, discover that you can’t update it because any time you install a newer driver it hard-locks the system and reboots it in super low-res mode with no driver at all, also your sound dies randomly for no reason that you can discover and trawling reddit for 4 hours comes up with lots of solutions, half of which don’t work and the other half don’t even apply, get frustrated, disable dual-boot and go back to windows.
That’s how my last experience with linux (admittedly that was PopOS not Mint, but) went ~6 months ago. I’m currently building up my frustration-tolerance to give it another try at some point probably with main-line Ubuntu because at least then when I go hunting for solutions to obscure problems the suggested solutions are for that distro. I’m honestly not sure what the difference between Ubuntu and Mint is tho.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
This was my experience with it too. Until I realized that the issue everything boils down to is having an old gfx. In particular an old nvidia gfx that has old, closed source driver compatibility only and can’t initialize vulkan. I’ve still stuck to it, it’s arch running on my desktop, because I’ll upgrade hw components eventually. 12 years with a gtx 670 has been quite enough.
I’ve installed fedora workstation 41 on a decommissioned work laptop last week, a 2021 model with an 5700U, and everything just works out of the box. Some obscure game that I’ve been trying to play on my desktop, not even platinum rated on protondb, launched on first attempt without any shenanigans using heroic launcher.
Nvidia, especially older models, are probably just simply not the way to go for gaming on linux.
T156@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ve had similar issues with Arch Linux for years. The front panel outright refuses to work on Linux, even after modifying a whole bunch of things.
Your average person is more likely to get frustrated that stuff is broken/doesn’t work, and switch back rather than having to alter module configuration files and things like that to fix it.
Sprawl@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah OP is right if they are just going to surf the web.
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
All linux distrobutions are essentially just linux with prepackaged apps. all apps built for one distro can be run on another. So in essence there is no difference besides the installation process, gui, and package manager. (Probably going to get flamed for this because this is kind of a half truth but for most users this is how id describe it, For ease of understanding)
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That sure is easy to say.
In practice, I tried to use mint for the is on a family computer and just couldn’t make it work. I’ve been an IT guy for years and have tons of experience with both Windows and MacOS, but virtually none with Linux. Long story short, trying to make that machine work with Linux mint was just taking up way too much of my time. I just needed to get a few simple features out of it (and maybe 1 hard feature, parental controls). But having very little Linux experience, it just wasn’t going to happen in a reasonable time frame. I eventually had to give up and put the Mac OS back on it (an iMac).
Anyway, mint actually has a lot in common with the Mac OS, it makes a very small set of controls very easy to use. And technically, you can do just about anything else you need to with the terminal, but that can be challenging to navigate.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Also enable Proton for everything. I thought that was the default, but I recently reinstalled Linux on my laptop (wanted to try out openSUSE Aeon) and was surprised that at least on the
flatpak, Proton isn’t enabled by default.That covers like 90% of Steam games, and 95% of what a typical SP-only gamer would need. However, MP games w/ anti-cheat are still an issue, but the more people that switch to Linux, the more likely devs are to support anti-cheat games on Linux.
MyOpinion@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Until you actually try to do work on it and play games and vr. Then you find out what a complete nightmare it is to use.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
It works remarkably well for a lot of things if you put a little effort into it. Depending on the distro, you might have a little more trouble trying to fix something. For my use case it can do gaming, CAD, office work, and some light programming just fine with some quirks and tradeoffs. Lemmy in general is a good place to ask troubleshooting questions too
deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
What’s installing Nvidia drivers like?
This has killed my install and interest in Linux every time I’ve tried it.
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Simple in most distros. For me i can legit just go to my gui package manager type nvidia click install. My package manager detects that nvidia-utils and nvidia-settings are required/optional and prompts me to install those aswell. Done. For infor on your specific distro lmk ill find it for you
474D@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ve done two PC builds with Nvidia and it’s actually easier than Windows because my distros (popOS and bazzite) installed the drivers for me. Had to do it manually with Windows
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Also its quite a pain in the butt to set up but if your still iffy on making the full switch to linux, “dualboot”! Purchase a second cheap ssd and install linux to that drive configure a software called grub to list windows and linux on start up and then launch into your prefered os. For me this was the best since alot of anticheat games I play are still locked down to windows
datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Installing them is dead simple.
Having them work? I’ll let you know when I figure it out
calabast@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I made a new computer in November, and while I didn’t try Mint (I don’t think) I installed 3 or 4 different versions if Linux. In them, I installed steam and Nvidia drivers, but most of my game library said they weren’t playable. If I didn’t have kids I could have spent more time and gotten it working, but is Mint different? Would they have been playable on it?
Skeletonek@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
It’s probably because you need to go to Steam settings and enable Proton for all games. I don’t understand why this is still not turned on by default…
Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
You have to change your steam settings to attempt to use proton. Once you do this, steam will allow the games to play. Practically everything will work once you do this.
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
By default many games will use steam runtime for linux compatability which just doesnt work. Gotta go to steam settings>compatability> and switch to the later versions of proton (proton is just a translation layer that converts some code of the game to linux compatible code) sadly many games with anticheat are not playable. Check the sites protondb or areweanticheatyet for info if your game is compatible
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I’m getting so sick of Microsoft and Apples bullshit that I’m about to switch personally, but from the research i did it sounds like the biggest problem with Linux on the desktop is that there still aren’t standard, unified, unchanging APIs that can be relied upon, so finding third party software and utilities is still a crap shoot compared to something like Windows that can still run binaries that targets it’s 1995 era APIs.
Any software that requires me to compile it from source just to run it on my machine is fine for me, a software developer, and probably fine for my mum that just does word processing and browsing since she won’t be installing things, but is a little too friction filled for your average consumer.
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Gui package managers are great for simple click and install usage similar to windows. but i prefer these since the list of apps is modderated by the repository you choose. So no more googling for a program and downloading a virus because of the 10 fake links google provides to your download. So imo its even safer for users like your mom looking for software is alot less risky.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
trick question firefox is already installed :p
Whulum@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Have tried linux with davinci resolve. Not a smooth experience. Only reason im not a full time linux user.
Still waiting for it to be a equivalent option
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 days ago
Sadly anticheat and proprietary software are definitely a huge hurdle that linux is yet to overcome. I highly recomend dual booting off a second drive to dip your toes in again. Many FREE alternative software like davinci exists but if youre already accustomed to a certain program i can definitely understand the reluctance to switch.