I mean, if earth vanished the moon would fuck off somewhere
Embrace this Truth and enjoy life
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sergio@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
“Evolution is blind” is debatable. Arguably, we evolved to fit an environment. We are survivors.
dbtng@eviltoast.org 5 weeks ago
I’ll go farther and say that its wrong. Evolution may be a random walk, but random walk is a method of getting places. Evolution random walks to the next needed feature. Evolution is not at all blind.
Sergio@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
I’ll go farther and say that its wrong.
Well, it’s debatable but I think it comes down to defining your terms.
- “Evolution is blind” suggests no guidance at all, and as you say there is randomness, but an important part of the evolutionary process is survival and propagation which are guided by the environment. so arguably evolution is NOT blind.
- However the evolutionary process is reactive and does not involve long-term planning so you could argue that “blind” means “looking ahead, considering more than what you can immediately sense.” so arguably evolution IS blind.
Either perspective agrees that there is no “Grand Architect” and/or “God’s Plan” which I think is the general point being made. But it’s just a little distracting.
UnhingedFridge@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s blind because in nature, it often fucks up, and the extreme fuck ups die off without continuing the process.
Chiarottide@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It clicked for me when I heard it’s a non-random selection of random mutations
Signtist@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s true that we evolved in response to an environment, but the actual genetic changes that allowed for that were not developed with purpose. They happened randomly, and the ones that happened to provide a benefit made those individuals more likely to have more kids that those with less beneficial random changes.
SparrowHawk@feddit.it 5 weeks ago
We can choose what we live for, and that’s the most meaningful thing I can think of
the_q@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
No we can’t. Choice is an illusion.
SparrowHawk@feddit.it 5 weeks ago
Prove it
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
I mean, it would change the orbits of other bodies within our solar system, but that’s it.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
And it literally wouldn’t have Earth any more.
aviationeast@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
‘“Existance is pain!” -Mr. Meseeks’ - Michael Scott…
Let’s go boys, time to speed run mankind’s extinction with global warming!
capt_wolf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
DPR knows what’s up.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
If from a scientific perspective, life is devoid of meaning, why is science important? It may be important to us, but why is anything important to us important at all then?
Wouldn’t it be equally meaningless?
Wouldn’t truth also be meaningless?
Wouldn’t getting worked up about this or any other comment be even more, yet paradoxically, equally meaningless?
If all of these things are meaningless, then why do anything in response?
Perhaps meaning is something that is inherently subjective because it requires purpose and value? Perhaps the most important things, such as what is essentially valuable, is something that we just decide or feel, without there being a lot of science to do around it and therefore can never be understood in objective and therefore scientific terms? Maybe science is great for understanding the known, but fails as knowing the evident yet unseen?
idk why people keep falling under the impression that science will provide them with meaning. It’s not a religion. it won’t. It’s merely a tool imo.
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Have a nice day! :)
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The flaw in all of this sophomoric philosophic whinging is that it mostly tends to start off with the presupposition that all of these concepts aren’t just human constructs. The only reason anything has meaning to us is because we decided it does.
The purpose of life is life itself.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
I’m just glad we can both agree science has no meaning. thanks.
lunarul@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nothing we are or do has any meaning to the universe. But our lives and actions have meaning to ourselves. And science is important for humanity. The universe doesn’t care if we develop science or not, but we care. There’s no great universal narrative where we play any role, but we do write our own narrative for ourselves and those to come.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
So if I’m understanding correctly, since we ourselves care about something, that is what provides it with meaning? Because meaning is entirely subjective? So the fact that we hold something very dear by definition makes it meaningful, regardless if anything or anyone tells us it’s meaningless? And that meaning is what keep ourselves and those who come going cause there’s no universal narrative?
idk it sounds to me that you’re suggesting that people could just find anything meaningful and it would be equally valid. Very unscientific if you ask me… :P
yesman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I don’t think that subjective means arbitrary. A book may mean different things to different people, but that doesn’t mean that one interpretation is as good as any other. Or that reason is abandoned in the process of forming a subjective idea.
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
I like your take and couldn’t agree more.
iconic_admin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Was this made by an AI?
Bahnd@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We know, but we can choose to carry on anyway in spite of it, revile in the absurdity, dance in the moonlight and be very very French.
Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve embraced existentialism. Finally found a definition of spituality I could digest and apply: “How you emotionally relate to the world.” Since then, I let my primitive, primate brain do things like feel jealousy and be wrong about things. Pretty freeing
Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
Life has as much meaning as we give it, humans think life has inherent meaning, ergo life has meaning
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
But it may stop observing itself. And as the part of the universe that does that, I’d dislike i5
needthosepylons@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well yes, sadly, we can’t embrace a cosmic perspective, because it’s not hours. We can have a human perspective though.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Existential Dread: SOLVED!
Tin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We must imagine Sisyphus happy.
mrfriki@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The four horsemen of you meant shit.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Does this mean I can say racial slurs ironically
xkbx@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
but like what if we really hated other people based on superficial traits and stuff? That could be kinda cool
Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 weeks ago
Sounds like a fun game. Maybe we could also include some kind of points system where everyone played excessively complex and very RNG heavy minigames and either won or lost points based on how well they did.
Then we could also implement people looking down upon those with less points or getting really worked up about people with a lot of them.