Divided and conquered

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• tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Here’s the problem: the one with the purple hair wants civil rights and safety, and the one with the red hat wants to punch the one with the purple hair repeatedly. Can’t really compromise like that. Need to fight red hat and billionaire at the same time, which is bullshit.

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  • TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.

    You need to construct a vision of society that allows both to succeed. Everyone is struggling these days and you need to construct a society that values all people.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.

      wow, I guess you should tell them to stop being dicks instead of coming to leftwing spaces and telling us to hug the bullies.

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    • Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It is impossible for me to both have rights(one sides goal), and not have rights(the other sides goal)

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      they aren’t evil

      I don’t think they are all evil, but they vote for the evil politicians and evil policies that direct hate to the people they don’t understand. Every single time…

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  • suite403@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Also, the one with the red hat is probably fine with the billionaires.

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    • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Certainly, he’s just one good idea away from being one himself!

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  • newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I always thought this meme was directed at right wing working class people because the left is already fighting the class war while also defending civil rights against “culture warriors”

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  • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s also a good chance that one or both is a troll online.

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• Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  this meme is dumb and short-sighted and the commenters are right.

  it isnt a culture war conservatives are inciting, it is a war on civil rights.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In much of the public’s eye, it is a culture war. That’s what determined their vote and support.

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    • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The public gets things wrong, that’s why it’s important to set the record straight rather than serve up pablum.

      “The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires…”

      claiming an absolute regarding complex and differentiated issues is how you know something is pablum.

      The long-term conservative judicial and legislative campaign the meme incorrectly refers to has a lot to do with race and religion, for example.

      “Always has been”.

      this is just a line from a short-sighted meme that is often incorrectly used, including here by you. it’s a fun phrase that means nothing, it’s confetti stuck in your sock.

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    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Much of the public also voted for trump. I’m not so sure we should be thinking very highly of much of the public’s eye.

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• Structure7528@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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• adm@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is why labor unions really started to fail in the 60s and 70s. The union guys valued race far more than class and the powers of unions diminished.

    They have been doing it well before reconstruction. Once upon a time there wasn’t that much racism in the US, but after Bacon’s rebellion the elites realized that whites and blacks were working together and have since then been pitting them against one another.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They also purged all the communists as a show of good faith to the government (which, uh, didn’t work). Those communists were likely more prone to class solidarity as an ideological commitment and also more willing to fight with radical actions like strikes, but instead we were left with opportunistic leadership that just wanted to secure the bag for themselves, and at best the other members of the union, but had no interest in any building any kind of broad coalition or promoting equality on a societal level - that would make them sound like a Red.

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• niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s hypocritical republicans who LOUDLY incite and stoke any of the culture wars you refer to. Anyone with half a brain can see that since at least two decades ago.

  Yet another reason in a very long list as to why both parties are NOT the same. But that ship has sailed, I have lost all faith in the american electorate. Stubbornly ignorant, utterly misguided voters allowed the noisy felons back in, and they will NOT give up power on good faith. All while global warming continues to ramp up. It’s too fucking late.

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I really don’t understand this comment (maybe I need to go to sleep), but I don’t see OP referring to any culture war, and I can’t say Republican’s are the only ones inciting culture wars (they might be inciting the ones I disagree with, but it is a culture war to push for equal rights)

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    • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Republicans srarted the abortion bogeyman as a way to get religious people to vote for them. Before that, nobody really gave much thought to it.

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• SuluBeddu@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Many that fight for civic rights, also fight the class war, protesting for both

  Civil rights are actually a good platform to spread social awareness

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• MeisterLemmpe@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Culture war is class war. Radicalized right wingers are just a weapon.

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• index@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They also got you posting the truth on a shitpost sub

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• Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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• Silk@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Check out the most recent Red flag radio podcast episode with April, a tran activist for Rainbow Rights. They discuss how social justice is connected to economic justice, how it’s all tied up in the class earlier against capitalism.

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• Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  OPs political views and opinions are apparently shotposting worth

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• agent_nycto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Well when the red hats are fighting for the oligarchs it’s not quite the same is it

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• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Its not the same. Those dumb MAGA animals are actively on the side of the rich. Don’t compare us to those fucking people.

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  • seeigel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    See, it works

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    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It works because you can’t squeeze water out of a rock. These meme implies that we can, as if we can recruit them onto our side.

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  • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah? How mad do you get over pronouns?

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    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Honestly, I feel like getting rid of gendered pronouns is kind of woke. But unlike conservatives I understand what a pronoun is.

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• Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Maybe, but one side of the culture includes them. And Luigi was only the start.

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• chrischryse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They both want to distract us, cuz if we actually work together we’d overthrow thfm

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