Problem with setting Teslas on fire is we can’t know if it’s an act of protest or if they just did that on their own.
Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire in Las Vegas and Kansas City
Submitted 5 weeks ago by ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/632217/tesla-arson-dealership-vegas-kansas
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ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
parmesan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The incident in Kansas City genuinely does sound like one just caught itself on fire.
In Kansas City, Police Captain Jacob Becchina said in a statement that an officer first observed smoke coming from a Cybertruck parked in a Tesla parking lot. “The officer used his fire extinguisher, however, KCFD was still needed as he could not put the fire out,” Becchina said. “The fire spread to a second Cybertruck parked next to the original burning one. The circumstances are under investigation, but preliminarily, the fire is being investigated for the potential of being an Arson.”
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
HERE COMES THE SUM
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’ve become sentient, and are committing suicide.
roguesignal@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
This made me laugh out loud at my desk. Thank you
Geodad@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Could be insurance fraud too.
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Probably a lot of the time it is. Nows a great time to do it if you’re gonna.
Saw a post earlier where a guy was 42,000$ underwater on his and wanted to offload it at that big of a loss before his insurance dropped it entirely.
melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I was JUST about to say; how do we know they didn’t just do that? or that this wasn’t a buggy firmware update that just did that? or a malicious firmware update that did this?
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
LoL 😂
alecbowles@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Exactly 🤣🔥
Curmudge_john@lazysoci.al 5 weeks ago
We know that Teslas sometimes just catch fire on there own.
We also know that sometimes Tesla drivers will set their cars on fire themselves on purpose. Because of that…
We also know that Elon has a backdoor into all Teslas.
Now ask yourself which is more likely, the woke liberal crybabies actually causing violence or a drug addled and politically embattled CEO of a company that lost 50% of its value in the past 3 months creating a false flag to villainize the left and get insurance to cover damage to the vehicles he can’t sell?
/s (kind of)
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Didnt the Nazi party burn down the Reichstag and blame it on the other party?
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 5 weeks ago
They blamed it on the communist party, yes. There were 8 parties represented in the Reichstag at the time though.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 weeks ago
If unsold teslas catch fire, i’m convinced it’s some insurance scam. A car sold and a car gone that they can’t fix anyway
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’ve already shown what they are capable of, in terms of scam behavior, up in Canada.
techclothes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Given Elons history, it’s definitely possible.
HelloHotel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wdym by "backdoor into all Teslas"
- This could mean "taking an industry standard sorfware update feature and making it abusively aggressive to or push malware to end users"
- it could mean "grants tesla 25-75% of the car’s controls from the internet"
- it could mean the former AND "grants access to diagnostics, settings and controls the consumer cannot access themselves"
- it could also mean “can run arbitrary code on your tesla at any time with little or no notice”
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
For the Vegas incident, I’m pretty sure those were customer cars at a collision center.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
if you know anything about who did it no you don’t
cynar@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s obviously the MAGA crowd. They’ve spent years complaining about electric vehicles. They’ve just escalated that to burning them out. The police need to go have a nice chat with the rolling coal types.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 weeks ago
Probably god’s will or something. What’s the pont of investigating.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The engineers did this, Teslas just kind of do this.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Maybe, maybe this is actually stochastic terrorism being carried out by MAGA themselves.
Think about it, their plan is to declare martial law - right? Conservatives already hate EVs, they think that Trump is a ‘good’ billionaire while billionaires like Gates are ‘bad’ billionaires - I don’t think it would take much to make Musk out to be a ‘bad’ billionaire.
Idk if this is as clear as ‘good guys vs bad guys’ - these are freedom fighters, but it’s never been clearer that a lot of people are divided on what ‘free’ actually means. You shouldn’t assume that the people doing this are actually on your side.
rockhard@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
MAGA don’t even like EV’s to begin with.
victoriathecompact@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
maybe im deep in the conspiracy but I’m unsure who is doing the vandalism at this point
kandoh@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Insurance fraud due to slow sales
pyre@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
perfect. let’s see if all tesla dealerships do it
db2@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh no. Anyway…
slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
silverlose@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Been thinking about this a lot. They can say it’s terrorism. History is written by the winners.
But…
Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal. If you rebel, you die a terrorist or live a hero. Not much middle ground.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
silverlose@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Hahaha 😂 10/10 meme
I’m not a big fan of that but I did notice there’s a new 2025 model y. At this point if you buy a Tesla you have it coming. If I saw someone destroying that I would look the other way.
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What about the Germans and the French? Are they cowards too?
kreskin@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I like that the picture doesnt show his belly. Yeah minus the muscles that could be me for sure.
misteloct@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Jan 6ers we’re pardoned, so by this logic all the car vandalisms are legal too.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal.
Sure, “we the people” control the government, so technically we can destroy it when we want. However, “we the people” also want a stable government that prevents the minority from ruining things for the majority.
So if you’re going to rebel, you need be very careful that you’re on right side, otherwise I think the rest are justified in calling you a terrorist.
silverlose@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Exactly!
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I have never, and will never, see anyone vandalize a Tesla. 🙈
ragingdachshund@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Oh no. Anyways.
the803@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
“Resist” is a tired slogan of the paid-to-lose Democrats, and the last time I saw it surface as “angry-Leftist vandalism” in pluto-fash corporate media propaganda, it turned out to be a Republican trying to cover up insurance fraud.
Kool-aid-drinking Tesla dealers are losing their shirts because Glorious Leader locked them into bad contracts and is now poisoning the brand; they have AMPLE incentive to destroy their own property and play victim.
Botzo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As a reminder, Tesla is “direct to consumer” and the “dealership” is corporate owned!
So when the party of conspiracy theorists claims conspiracy against them, you can rest assured it’s a conspiracy by them.
But that’s what they’d say if the the tables were turned, so fuck 'em and their shit. I hope the insurance adjuster finds a way out and leaves them holding the bag.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As a reminder, Tesla is “direct to consumer” and the “dealership” is corporate owned!
Gasoline powered vehicles have to be sold through dealerships, but of course Musk doesn’t like to follow the law and nobody stops him. Just like how ‘ride shares’ pretended to be sharing rides but were just cabs with extra steps.
LucidLyes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Trump administration looking to categorize Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism” Because Republicans are cowards without principles who can never even think of opposing him.
timewarp@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I didn’t see nuffin
stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
futatorius@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Some advice for demonstrations (including propaganda of the deed):
Wear a ski mask. Don’t trust phones. Don’t use them to plan, and leave them turned on at home. Use a cell structure to organize, and share info on a need-to-know basis only. Assume there are not only cameras but microphones. Don’t drive anywhere near the location of the demo. Don’t even cycle in unless you can go off-road. Distinguish individuals’ property from corporate property.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Not having the phone with you is critical. But I assume planning is done on a laptop or desktop that is obviously not taken with?
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yep, anonymous browsers, burner accounts, and a VPN if you can. Privacy.sexy is your friend too.
You just want to set yourself up as best you can for the defense of “you can’t prove that was me.”
beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
I have zero evidence Musk ordered the Tesla vandalism. Which, coincidentally, is exactly how surprised I’d be to find out he had.
samus12345@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’d be surprised if he did. He sees Teslas as an extension of himself. Which is why it’s so very effective at upsetting him whenever people do stuff like this.
mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Great way to get rid of rotting inventory and recoup costs through insurance.
lydon_feen@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Oh no!
Anyway…
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Ohhhhhh nooooooooooo! Let me grab my very tiny violin.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Can’t believe the Insurrection Act is gonna be used because of homie’s swasticars
Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Oh no! they should be dismantled instead of burned. Some of those electric motors could be put into better use.
dmention7@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Man, if I had the poor luck/foresight to have purchased a Tesla earlier, I would be driving like the politest mofo in existence these days.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’d set it on fire and make an insurance claim.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Don’t destroy Tesla cars, destroy the brand. Destroying Teslas means there’s fewer Teslas and that makes them more valuable. The goal is to remove money from Elon, not the customers.
potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
In fairness, I think the possibility that someone might light your car on fire is a stronger incentive to not buy a brand than internet posts making fun of the brand. It also means now they have to beef up security at all of the dealerships. Car sales are surprisingly impulse driven, hence the famous high pressure sales tactics, so it’ll be harder to get people in the door if they’re strip searching everyone and if they can’t have as much inventory on the lot, customers can’t drive home with the options they want so less impulse buying. Also full coverage insurance, required for financing, will get more expensive or even impossible to obtain which possibly means a massively decreased customer pool.
I think a better counter argument is the environmental damage caused by lighting all the cancer boxes on fire.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Do teslas even have options? Isn’t it just the battery pack and awd/rwd and then maybe peformance
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Good. Do more.
Snapz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Spontaneous combustion
arc@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Stick to the showrooms and dealers. The one in Las Vegas was just owners who brought their cars in to be fixed.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Very fucking GOOD.
Ilixtze@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Keep it up!
misteloct@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s only ok to be violent if you’re a Republican. I’m not supporting this, but since Jan 6’ers were pardoned then these car vandalisms are totally legal too. I think they’re equally immoral.
Itzdan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Stock gone, carry on
pyre@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
they should amend this article to include teslas en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_combustion
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
OK buddy.
samus12345@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
The cars suck, but he’s right that the company hasn’t done anything to deserve this. He’s the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they’ll feel about any business he owns.
Terrorism, though? Hardly. It’s protest. He’s the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.
Ulrich@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn’t necessarily make it wrong.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 weeks ago
This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.
fitgse@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The board needs to remove Elon today.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
yep. I don’t get why they haven’t. He’s tanking their shit badly.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
the board are his handpicked toadies that have him a bonus despite tesla losing money
Ulrich@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
You can remove him from the board but he’ll still have all of his shares. And I’d bet he’s not really doing much as Tesla these days anyway.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Even if they do, protests and boycotts need to continue past it. A lot of his wealth is in Tesla stock, and he’s going to benefit from the shadows if the public moves on and TSLA recovers.
ragingdachshund@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s not terrorism. They were just peacefully touring the dealerships. Just like January 6. Peacefully touring.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.
It’s vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.
Furbag@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Leave the puppy killing to the expert, Kristi Noem.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Also some people who bought teslas before all this happened having their rates go up. And the people who had their Tesla vandalized or totaled who didn’t get a good enough payout from insurance to replace it (if you’ve ever dealt with insurance you know you’re not getting the actual value back). I’m not saying I’m losing sleep over it, but still.
I had a friend buy a Tesla after Elon was talking about buying twitter but before one could objectively say he went full fash, and I told him he’d be embarrassed about it eventually. He went through with it because it had X features or whatnot. Do I feel bad for him? A little, but it’s not like the writing wasn’t on the wall. Obviously once Elon was with Trump 24/7 he said he regretted it, but it’s a bit late for that.
There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, so it sucks to see consumers be targeted, but I understand. I have a phone and I’m sure somewhere child slavery was involved. Does that make me a bad person? Yes, the answer is objectively yes. We’re all making shitty choices every day and if one day someone decides to draw the line and I’m on the wrong side of it, I guess I’ll just have to cope. That’s kinda how I feel about it. So Tesla owners are being harmed too, but I don’t know that I’d call them victims of anything except their own decisions. I’m not sure they deserve it all equally, but we all kinda suck so whatever.