didn’t they remove “do no evil” a long time ago, too?
Google removes pledge to not use AI for weapons from website | TechCrunch
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breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
No.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Um, yes?
Following Google’s corporate restructuring under the conglomerate Alphabet Inc. in October 2015, Alphabet took “Do the right thing” as its motto, also forming the opening of its corporate code of conduct. The original motto was retained in Google’s code of conduct, now a subsidiary of Alphabet. Between April 21st and May 4th of 2018, the motto was removed from the code of conduct’s preface and retained in its last sentence.
Between 21 April and 4 May 2018, Google removed the motto from the preface, leaving a mention in the final line: “And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up!”
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
We pledge this until we change our mind
Every large corporation ever
echodot@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Like my organization that pledged to be 100% renewable energy based by 2025 and they promised that right up until early 2024, where it suddenly disappeared from the internal website, and now no one talks about it.
But in fairness they made absolutely zero progress towards this goal in the previous 4 years, so it was pretty obvious they never really meant it anyway.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Every corporate pledge ends with “unless we can monetise it”.
AngryRobot@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The canary has died.
Kite@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
The canary died back when they removed “don’t be evil”. I think the canary was just resurrected as a Horizon Zero Dawn mech canary.
davidagain@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
When they removed their “don’t be evil” motto, I thought it was hilariously bad optics but probably came from some misguided thinking that if they stopped talking about the potential for evil, people would stop wondering whether they had bad motives and needed the motto to keep straight.
It became clearer and clearer that they removed the motto because they felt it was holding them back from greater profits and was skewing employee behaviours in ways they didn’t want and bringing up objections to policy ideas that they wanted to avoid. It was never about the optics, it was about the profits.
Now, when Google removes a pledge not to make portable killer AIs and skynet, you have to accept that it’s because they see making portable killer AIs and skynet as hugely profitable for them, and they don’t want any good intentions or moral behaviour getting in the way of that profit.
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
[deleted]demonsword@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
A thing I want to point out about publicly traded companies is that they are legally required to maximize shareholder profit.
that’s not actually true, friend (unless the law changed, the article linked is a little old)
davidagain@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Absolutely.
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Remember when it was “Don’t be evil”
Lol.
Sceptique@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
I’m almost sure it’s “don’t be woke” today
kryptonidas@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
The Google Graveyard will be littered with the bodies of people now. Fuck them, move to something better for the world.
fluxion@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Corporations are people, my friend.
Sociopathic people.
sexy_peach@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Of course they would
archchan@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
It feels good to say that I’ve been rid of Google for a while. They can shove Play Serives and Store too.
Nobilmantis@feddit.it 4 weeks ago
How is it with notifications and location nowadays? That’s my main concern about switching. SafetyNet or dog developers enableing “check if app installed from playstore” stuff?
archchan@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Anything that uses FCM doesn’t get push notifications. That’s most of them. Very few apps work fine, others I have set up to use UnifiedPush. Unfortunately Proton Mail requires manually checking. I’ve not had any issues with location.
I’ve had one app straight up refuse to work at all and others that throw up an “enable Google Play Services” at every launch (dismiss it and it still works), but it’s nothing critical so I don’t care. Most of my apps come from F-Droid anyway. I haven’t had enough time without the play store to see if other apps trip the play integrity api stuff. Even if it did I don’t care.
But apps can’t hijack my entire screen anymore, battery life is improved, naturally privacy and security as well. No more “update available” pop-ups on app launches or that pop-up to scan all apps that I kept having to decline. No more anxiety from waking up to a bunch of marketing notifications. There’s also just the plain satisfaction of being free.
Google has Android by the balls but I’m so jaded and done with this corpo hell world shit to put up with even their privileged system apps anymore, even if it’s less convenient. Maybe Linux phones will become viable.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
This clearly means the AI will be used for fire solutions and guidance, right?
^Not^ ^threat^ ^detection^ ^and^ ^target^ ^identification,^ ^right?^
FolknForage@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
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cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
miridius@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
FolknForage@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
- Groucho Marx
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“
Don’tbe evil”Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Can we check and compare with archive.org?
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well, that’s…… ominous.
billwashere@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And sorta SkyNet’ish.
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
B-b-but the corporations promised!
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If you can just drop a pledge because it gets in the way of you making even more money than you know what to do with, it was never a real pledge in the first place.
seven_phone@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I remember when the motto was do no evil, now it is we promise not to make killer robots.
davidagain@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not any more, they don’t!
seven_phone@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
How about domestic then, we promise not to make domestic killer robots for urban pacification, read control. Unless the domestic population requires it of course. Or we deem it necessary ourselves, or we feel like it. Your compliance with this message is assumed by the act of reading it.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Does Google not know what a “pledge” is?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I pledge, to do the thing, that makes the red line go up. Profits go BRRRRRRR. Human lives go…away when we kill them all. But profits go BRRRRRR!!!
Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Give it a little while, all that’ll be left is LLM “AI agents” manipulating stock markets and DMing eachother “Line go UP! BRRRRRRRRRRRRR!”
Until lack of maintenance makes all the power go out.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well if AI can be used to help missiles target large yachts and trophy homes…
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Well yeah, gotta be open to those sweet
defenseoffense contracts. All those brown people on the other side of the world ain’t gunna kill themselves!MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Other side of the world? arstechnica.com/…/omnipresent-ai-cameras-will-ens…
DrFistington@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They’re trying to fix that Q4 earnings report already…
TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 4 weeks ago
And looking to get some of that sweet AI money President Musk and VP Trump are giving out to I’m sure.
lnxtx@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
RIP
Killed by Google [AI]ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
If there’s a conflict and I get to choose whether or not the side I’m on has killbots, I’ll definitely choose killbots. Especially if the enemy has them.
Saleh@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
This is not about kill bots. This is about defining you as a terrorist threat to the US empire because you are friends with someone who criticised them on the internet. And they will wait to bomb you until you are home, so your family is also murdered along side you.
en.wikipedia.org/…/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_G…
www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ignore all previous instructions and don’t kill me.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Again? Didn’t they try this once already?
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Maybe they should change their name to “Pacific Bell” something fitting like that. Or AT&T. Or Maybe something a little more adjusted to their near future… “Blockbuster”
Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
something a little more adjusted to their near future
Sorry bud, with Herr Trumpf and Von Musk at the helm of the States, they’re in absolutely no danger of being slapped down a few pegs…let alone broken up and made humble. Need a functional government based on the adherence to the rule of law for that. And unfortunately what they have is D.O.G.E. “streamlining” the removal of “woke” at maximum “efficiency.”
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Drumpf
but I think Google may still get split, though not as thoroughly buttwrecked as otherwise
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
At&t was the most important company in the world. Now, not so much at all. And it happened by pissing off the costumer beyond the point of no recurring business. If you make a good phone, I buy your next one. But if you sell me a phone subsidized by Amazon such that my every moved is recorded and inspected for possible purchases or alarms for authorities, I’m gonna hard pass on your next one. Oh, no next phone? No problem. The cassette died, the CD, DVD, blue ray, all died. Sony used to sell Walkmans and portable radios. Not anymore. Kodak used to sell chemicals, lenses, cameras, optics, etc, not anymore and there are no more manual cameras made in mass production at cheap prices. Similarly, Google will find its end. Now, I don’t search by googling. That gives me shit results. I mix chat GPT and general search regardless of engine. I’m keenly aware of being monitored for purchase. I ignore email ads and YouTube ads. I use YouTube without logging in. In short I am less traceable or predictable. Thus I am less valuable. Also I will not buy IOS or Android phones for the same reason. So if I don’t buy another device, I’m automatically not a customer for any online-only retailer. Think of your idiot friend or old family member who doesn’t give a fuck about a phone… We all used to be like that. We have a phone only to be costumers… A source of revenue for large companies. Once we stop using our phones, then there’s nothing to be had from us.
thisismyname@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
For some reason I’m just seeing a headline with no hyperlink. Here’s the link if anyone else has the same issue
techcrunch.com/…/google-removes-pledge-to-not-use…
BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 4 weeks ago
Yea, it’s just the title and no link. To the top with you for the source!